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I don’t want to go on about this stuff but after Colin telling me he thins it helps and not really knowing what it’s doing to him, today I tried CBD OIL myself, WOW I felt so relaxed, this is my new bedtime treat after a long and crap day.

Love and hugs

Helen xxx

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Kevin_1 profile image
Kevin_1

Hi Helen

I have had some on my desk for a week or so waiting for me to get over the flu to try it before of offering it to Liz.

Well I keep forgetting its there as well!

Thanks for the encouragement. I will try it this evening.

If I can remember ;)

Ugh! my memory :)

Hugs to you

Kevin

xx

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Helen119 in reply toKevin_1

Enjoy xx

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carehope

Hi there Helen ! So glad that it seems to be helping Colin's situation ! That's pretty amazing that you took a chance in the interests of Science and well being and used yourself as an experimental subject !! 😊 Very happy to hear that you felt positive results also !!! I will definitely bring CBD oil up with my sister's neurologist at our upcoming appointment ! Thank you very much ! Hope that you and Colin had a peaceful and sunny Easter ! 🐣🕊

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Helen119

Not sunny but at least there was no rain. Never thought of it like that “interest of science” and all that, go me!

Let us know what your Neurologist says please

Love and hugs xxx

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Kevin_1

Hi Helen

I did it!

I took some CBD oil a couple of hours ago.

I climbed into a small cage and gave my self a dose.

I gave myself two shots in error. Ugh!

The taste was fairly neutral.

Within 20 minutes I got a sense of my muscles relaxing and suddenly realised just how stressed I had been and as my body relaxed I felt myself following suit.

No sense at all of being 'drugged' or sedated. No loss of co-ordination or of concentration.

Quite remarkable.

Now, all I have to do is to work out how to use this exercise wheel! ;)

Hugs

Kevin

xx

PS - I will offer it to Liz tomorrow - It feels safe to use.

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Helen119 in reply toKevin_1

Awesome it could be a feeling I could get addicted to, enjoy your evening of relaxation xx

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raincitygirl in reply toKevin_1

Ha ha! You lab rats have all the fun;-)

Is there any other specification, eg %strength or ml or..?

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Kevin_1 in reply toraincitygirl

6mg twice a day.

But getting the right sort is important.

Not Hemp extract. That is a fudge with low CBD content.

Can you find the post I wrote a couple of weeks back?

I went into detail.

Its really very mild and seems to work more on the body than the mind.

Feels very safe.

Waiving

Kevin

xx

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raincitygirl in reply toKevin_1

Thanks Kevin, I do remember that string.

Cheers!

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cameoboy11 in reply toKevin_1

Hi kev. Where do you get it from and how much is it,? Jo x

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Kevin_1 in reply tocameoboy11

Hi Jo

Just scroll down a few posts... See my reply there.

There are links and everything.

If you want my reasoning - I posted a long post on the why's and wherefores a few weeks back.

The suppliers in the post below are best value - best stuff. There is a lot of stuff out there which looks good, but is rubbish. Holland and Barratt and Cannol are good examples.

I hope this helps.

I find it very gentle and very effective.

Come back to me if you want any more info.

Best to you

Kevin

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cameoboy11 in reply toKevin_1

Thanks kevin jo x

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Helen119

Good stuff xx

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cameoboy11 in reply toHelen119

HiHelen whete do you get it from and how much is it? Jo x

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Spiralsparkle

Out of interest ...For science research he he...Are you both using the same oil or different brands?

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Kevin_1 in reply toSpiralsparkle

Hi SpiralSp.

I've replied just below.

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Helen119

I’m using HEMPURA CBD OIL.

Kevin?

Xx

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Kevin_1 in reply toHelen119

Hi

Yes the Hempura looks really good. I will probably try that next time.

It was a coin toss, but this time I went with Provacan.

I am going to offer a dose to Liz this afternoon.

xx

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Helen119 in reply toKevin_1

Kevin did you get drops or spray, I’m thinking maybe spray would be for Colin, as with drops hard to see how many drops I’m giving him.

Helen xxx

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Kevin_1 in reply toHelen119

Hi Helen

I got a spray. I did a lot of reading on dosage and came up with 6mg twice a day. The spray delivers exactly that with each shot.

I will be trying your brand as well - just in case it is more effective.

Kevin

xxx

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Trillo

We rely on CBD oil. My husband would be lost without it, a shaking wreck.

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Helen119

Hi Trillo

What dose do you give him and which make please.

How does it affect him

Love and hugs

Helen xxx

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Trillo in reply toHelen119

Cannol. I ordered from a chemist in Lanzarote, a lot cheaper including postage. Not sure what strength at moment as im away for a little break and don't have it. You can look at this on Amazon, it's slightly more expensive.

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Kevin_1 in reply toTrillo

Hi Trillo

Please check my reply to Sarah below - Cannol is low in CBD and very expensive :(

Hope you don't mind me saying...

Kevin

XXX

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Trillo in reply toKevin_1

Hi Kevin, interesting. What do you think if the 1 that Holland and Barrett sell. . €6.50 a bottle for Cannol. How much and where do you get yours from?

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Kevin_1 in reply toTrillo

Hi Trillo

I searched the internet for a long time. These two seem to be 'best quality' and they tick all of the boxes.

I am using

ciitech.shop/collections/pr...

And Helen is using this brand.

hempura.co.uk/shop/cbdoil/h...

Both are good.

Just a comment on the Hempura uses drops under the tongue and Provacan has a spray that delivers the correct dose. 1 spray = one dose.

The Hempura works out the same price'ish as provocan as they are recommending a dose of double that of Provocan. So each delivers some 80 doses at the recommended 6.0 mg twice daily.

Hempura have a good article on "how much to take." However they are not looking at Parkinson's particularly which is where I found the 6.0 mg dose (in a number of articles).

Kevin

xx

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Helen119 in reply toKevin_1

Haha unless you pump it twice xx

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Kevin_1 in reply toHelen119

Chuckles :)

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Nanny857 in reply toKevin_1

Thanks for the links Kevin.

How did it go with Liz?

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Kevin_1 in reply toNanny857

Hi Nanny857

Liz thinks its great.

She finds it difficult to communicate, as you know.

However she was able to say that she feels much better in herself physically and mentally. She was also able to say that it didn't alter her mind, or make her feel sedated.

My observations were that she looked much more relaxed (less stressed) and if anything she was more able to use her arms and legs than usual. The next day she was brighter than I have seen her for a very long time. However that might be a fluctuation. I will only know if it persists.

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doglington in reply toKevin_1

Promising !!!

xxx

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Kevin_1 in reply todoglington

Yes!

Liz was actually talking to me yesterday.

Very difficult to understand though, but I did manage to lip read the, "I love you." This last month she has had a very passive PSP face.

:)

xxx

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doglington in reply toKevin_1

So happy for you both !!!

xxx

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Richard33 in reply toKevin_1

Kevin,

Thanks for doing all the homework again. I have ordered the spray one. Hoping it will relax Ruth at night when she can't get to sleep for hours.

Richard

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Kevin_1 in reply toRichard33

No problem Richard

Do come back and share your experiences with it.

Cheers

Kevin

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Kevin_1 in reply toTrillo

Adding - Holland and Barratt are criminal - Theirs is so weak it needs a full bottle for one dose.

xx

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Trillo in reply toKevin_1

Ok. Thanks kevin

Sarah1972 profile image
Sarah1972

I used CBD oil in the early stages with Mum, her speech and balance was amazing. I got mine from CBD brothers on line at 30% strength. CBD is an extract of cannabis with all the health benefits the THC which causes the paranoia and highs is not present so totally safe to use.

Definatley worth a try. Expensive but worth it. Good luck all xx

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Kevin_1 in reply toSarah1972

Hi Sarah

I hope you don't mind me saying:

This might not be a good buy.

It's made from the whole plant. The oils in the stems are low in CBD.

Secondly they have used seeds. There is no CBD oil in the seeds.

It appears to be a hybrid of Hemp oil (No CBD at all) and the leaves and flowers - which are the parts we want.

They are fairly up front about this - "30% CBD = 150mg CBD..." - Per bottle.

Compare:

ciitech.shop/collections/pr...

500mg Canabinol per bottle and considerably cheaper.

JFYI

Best

Kevin

xx

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Sarah1972 in reply toKevin_1

Don’t mind at all. It worked really well and we paid £60 per bottle instead of they one you have just recommended which indeed is much cheaper and better by the sounds of it. Will definitely give this ago 😁

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laineyash

Hi Helen, can I ask you where you got your CBD from please, I'm in the UK and can't find it on Amazon x

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Kevin_1 in reply tolaineyash

I hope you and Helen don't mind me butting in.

Just scroll up 5 posts.

It slipped in behind your post.

Best to you.

Kevin

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cameoboy11

Good to know Helen . Where do you get it from and how much is it,? Jo x

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Helen119 in reply tocameoboy11

Hi cameoboy11

If you read the posts above Kevin has put links into one of his posts

Love and hugs xx

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Nanny857

Hi Helen, will definitely be asking GP if I can get this for W. I might even take some myself, seeing it gave Kevin some relaxing moments. I could do with some right now. xx

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Kevin_1 in reply toNanny857

Hi Nanny857

Sadly it is not approved for prescription for PSP/CBD in the UK. Its very strictly controlled in terms of its use within the NHS.

You might get lucky.

Our Neurologist was very nice hen we asked. His explanation for his 'no' was that there is no research done on PSP and Cannabinol so he has no clinical basis which would allow him to prescribe it.

Good luck

Kevin

xx

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Spiralsparkle in reply toKevin_1

I mentioned about the CBd oil to Admiral Nurse and she advised I check with the neurologist before I start Mum on it incase any effects on meds she is on for epilepsy.

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Kevin_1 in reply toSpiralsparkle

Yes that's wise.

Our neurologist said he couldn't recommend it, but then he mused aloud to himself that in our situation he thought he might try it. He said formally that he couldn't recommend anything that hat no formal clinical evidence.

Epilepsy meds. are something else.

Good luck.

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Spiralsparkle in reply toKevin_1

Mum wants to give it a try so I'm going to order it and leave message with Parkinson's nurse to ask Neurologist and let me know. Do you find the taste horrible at all? Hope Liz continues to get benefit from it.

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Helen119 in reply toSpiralsparkle

Hi

HEMPURA the one Colin has has got a taste but it’s not bad, I think the one Kevin is using has something to make it taste nice.

Good luck

Helen xxx

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Spiralsparkle in reply toHelen119

I'm thinking the spray will be easier for me to give to Mum so going to try that one first. How is Colin finding it?

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Kevin_1 in reply toSpiralsparkle

I don't mind the taste - Liz does and washes it down with juice.

Again today Liz moved from stressed to relaxed and comfortable. She is more able to move her hands and arms and smiled a bit too. There is quite a bit of her old self coming through too.

Best of luck

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Spiralsparkle in reply toKevin_1

That's fab. Mums taste has definitely changed also and she finds alot of things horrible now when eating or drinking. I'm going to take it myself also!

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Helen119 in reply toKevin_1

Colin finds it relaxing, but not sure if the results are as positive as Kevin’s Liz, sounds like it’s doing lots of good for her.

I might send for the spray one just in case there is a difference and better, might be worth a try.

Love and hugs

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Kevin_1 in reply toHelen119

If you would, please let me know if you find a difference.

Liz feels strongly it makes her much better in herself.

Warmly

Kevin

xx

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Helen119 in reply toKevin_1

I will

Xx

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Helen119

Love and hugs

Xxx

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