I finally had a visit from our OT and a student. I have also been wanting g some one to show me a hygiene sling as I can not get his pants up and down with the universal sling. They of course did not have one to bring and try. Next Wednesday we will be going to the OT department for an acessent for seating. We are trying to get a tilt in space wheelchair . An appointment is being booked with a medical supply Co. To try out several chairs and a hygiene sling. I have made it very cleat that I want a demonstration on getting his puts off with the sling on. They are very hesitant to recommend these things because they are afraid of injury. I have Googled and like many of you have said there ia all kinds of all colds as to how great these ceiling hoists are. They show how to use various slings and procedures but not one shows how to get off a pair of pants with the sling on. They suggested bottomless pants or going without pants. My husband had a fit about that. We will see what the sales rep brings and if they can coordinate a visit with her and OT before the end of the year.