MASTERBATION

[Vitruviusman]

Of the men who were rotor routed by the PC surgery, how do you jack off? Do you have to manipulate your cock in a certain way to achieve orgasm, and how do you do it? IF so, how intense is your orgasm?

[YostConner]

“Learning by doing.”

[Vitruviusman]

i was being facetious, meaning those of us who have been harpooned, by the surgery, upon extracting our Prostates.Still wondered about other techniques other men use to achieve orgasm. The way I have to achieve is complicated. Hopefully other men will offer more detail of the methods or techniques they use for successful orgasmic responsive.

[VL54 in reply to Vitruviusman]

Pork helps and you have to manipulate the head a lot because there is no erection in the shaft. The orgasm is still powerful but no ejaculation. Keep playing with it, lubricate the tip as well.

[VL54 in reply to VL54]

Porno not pork, autocorrect he'll.

[kcbuck in reply to VL54]

I thought maybe there was some new thing with pork that I hadn't heard about yet.

[VL54 in reply to kcbuck]

LOL, not yet.

[Pasexxx in reply to VL54]

I enjoy myself a lot my cock is attractive and sizably pleasing love to mastbate now I'm I weird cause I fantasize about other cocks wether playing with em or sucking them

[Vitruviusman in reply to Pasexxx]

Sexy

[Mpr1960]

I find that taking a relaxed approach to masturbation makes it much easier and enjoyable. As VL54 mentioned, porn is a usefull tool. I find that viewing a few videos, building up the anticipation, helps to achieve a satifying orgasm. Investigate Tantra, an approach that teaches you to utilize your entire body for sexual energy and pleasure.

Look up the author Armin Heining, you may find his books/teachings are helpful.

[Vitruviusman]

its seems like most of us are dramatically compromised regarding the male ability to achieve erections, which was the main purpose mother/father nature made a MAN to copulate and promote the species.

[billd9946]

In my experience, having an erection greatly increases the intensity and pleasure of an orgasm. Climaxing while flaccid just doesn’t cut it for me. I’m three years out and finally can get an erection with the use of viagra. However, I need 100 mg to achieve success, then pay later with a headache. Trimix works very well, but I sometimes have to go to great extents to get rid of a four+ hour erection. And, if I’m really excited, I ejaculate urine during climax. This feels best, but is not good if engaging with a partner. It’s a whole new and frustrating way of life, but we deal with the hand we’re dealt. Persistence is required... good luck!

[Vitruviusman in reply to billd9946]

Try Cialus, this does not give headaches like Viagra dose. I tried Viagra and it gave me intense migraine headaches. Cialis is much better I did not have any headaches with Cialis

[VL54 in reply to Vitruviusman]

I will try Coal is, Viagra gives me a slight headache as well and does little to nothing. All I want is a raging erection, the desire to penetrate is real. Porno gives me a small semi erection. Thank God for the ability to have an orgasm, but I miss my morning erections. I'm 9 months out from surgery and I'm grateful to be cancer free. The day I get a full erection, I will be penetrating whatever is near me, hopefully my partner of 21 years.

[VL54 in reply to VL54]

Cialis

[Vitruviusman in reply to VL54]

Lets face it. MEN were designed in mind, body, sensuality, thoughts to fuck, to impregnate. When we get hard, it energizes not only our mind but our bodies and turbo charges everything we do. It is like a volcano deep in our bodies that NEEDS TO EXPLODE. THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT of that that will energize and fortify a MALE. The thrusting power, re-inforces the power in our bodies, our muscles gets stronger and the trusting forces the body to produce more testosterone, which in turn makes our minds and thoughts more male... Nothing like a raging hard cock that needs to be satisfied...

[VL54 in reply to Vitruviusman]

Amen to that, well said my friend. I keep saying to myself that I'm glad I enjoyed every day of having a working, satisfying cock. Life changes and we can't control that. We all have our seasons, God knows mine was active. Keep up the good fight.

[Dreamweaverman in reply to VL54]

Amen Brotha! I am rooting for you!

[VL54 in reply to Dreamweaverman]

I appreciate that, I'm rooting for you as well.

[Vitruviusman in reply to billd9946]

YEs the penile injections do produce a WAY TO LONG erection that eventually is painful. I do not get erections using Cialis or Viagra. Viagra is horrible. Gives me migraine headaches. Cialis does not have any side affects, nor head aches. I am in the beginning stages of getting to know this guy. Last night I woke up with a 3/4 hard on which FINALLY felt normal.. the cock got hard that was generated by my sexual thoughts and desires, as it should be . I agree to ejectulate/orgasm with a flaccid cock just does not cut it. I do have intense orgasms.

[Dreamweaverman in reply to Vitruviusman]

I can totally relate to your experience. I am only 2 months out from surgery and I am already getting worried/frustrated. I have been jerking off as advised by doctor, But the semi hard-ons feel less satisfying. Orgasms feel great but my knee-jerk reaction is to look for some type of semen.smh... Lastly, the urination when getting turned on is crazy! I had such an embarrassing experience the other day when I uncontrollably squirted all over my BF's shirt. I wanted to crawl under a rock from the shame. Still get really surprised by all this, and although I have supportive loving relationships, I sometimes just long for the pre PC self.

[Skiotter in reply to Vitruviusman]

I didn't get such a good reaction with trimix. Should I drop anther $300 to give it another shot? To buy another batch. The various oral--sildenafil, various herbal concoctions--didn't work that well either. I get it up just fine watching porn, but not a bit with a real guy. It is so f--ing demoralizing not to get anything when the hottest guy is working on my dick.

bill

[Vitruviusman in reply to Skiotter]

Sir I understand completely. I also feel emasculated. No hard cock at all. The Trimax was paintful and injection site bleeds. Not romantic. ED meds also do not work. I cant fathom the implant. I have to reside myself to having a flaccid cock forever.. Dating has been desasterous. I have no other ideas. If anyone can provide anything other solution, please do

[willp4real]

This site is helpful on so many levels. To begin, it helps knowing we are not alone in our extremely frustrating efforts to gain some measure of our former male selves and quality of life. I can barely get an erection most of the time and climaxing is disappointing 85% of the time. Neither Viagra or Cialis have worked for me. My Cialis prescription is 20mg and Viagra I think was 50mg. Maybe I should ask my physician to increase to dosage. Has this helped anyone else besides billd9946? Never heard of Trimix.

[michael42301]

The first time I jacked off after surgery, it took about half an hour to figure out the best way to do it. The old-fashioned way, which I had used for 50 years or so, no longer worked, and I had to figure out how to do it all over again (it took both hands). But fortunately, the end was still happy.

[Vitruviusman in reply to michael42301]

what method what method did you use? How did you rub it

[michael42301 in reply to Vitruviusman]

Back in the olden days, when I still had a fine, stiff, upstanding dick, I could masturbate one-handed, leaving the other hand to work a computer mouse or play with nipples and such (I had a friend who was uncut and could jack off with his thumb and forefinger alone, which I thought was right elegant).

After the surgery, it took a while to figure it out, but it takes both hands, one to play with the head and the other pressed against the base of my cock to help with stiffness. I am not interested in pumping it up just to jack off, and ED drugs of any kind now burden me with such side effects that I save them for special occasions. So I use my left hand to clamp the base of my cock and jack with the right hand, paying most attention to the head. I also use lube; in the old days, spit worked fine.

I am still trying to figure out orgasms. Formerly, they started with the movement of cum up the cock and exploded with ejaculation. Now, they are not specific, more of an all-over thing, but they still can be earth-shaking. And I get more pleasure from masturbation now than just about anything else.

[VL54 in reply to michael42301]

I have to do the same two hand action. It's all about the head now. Sometimes I get a semi erection in my sleep if I'm having deep sexual thoughts, but it doesn't last. Glad to know that someone else shares the same JO method.

[Vitruviusman]

Good

[Vitruviusman in reply to Vitruviusman]

the nerves that were left in my cock are strange. I have no erotic feeling in the COCK HEAD, only deep in the base of the cock, not the shaft. I have to press my fingers inside at the base of the cock and WACK it there. Rubbing up and down the shaft does nothing. I feel emasculated and embarrassed in front of a partner, (if I had one, no sex in 6 years), to not jack off like a MAN.. If I ever were with a partner, I would not jack off in front of him like that. I would do it later.. pleasing him in the way he needs.

[KansasCouple]

Cancer is an a-hole and thief! My spouse, Mark, had rpp about 6 months ago and lost everything sexually. He was depression and anxious because he couldn't get an erection. He tried cialis and Viagra but both made him feel loopy. The doc told him he could try injections but decided to wait. We tried a pump but he teased that a marshmallow couldnt feel bigger in it. We finally achieved orgasm when we had oral sex. It wasn't quite the same as before but he felt relief to know we finally got there. We are very fortunate to live through this together and I try to be super patient. My reaction is he is alive another day, we are together, he's cancer free at the moment, and we have each other. I wish we had a local gay community or a support group because it would help to talk things out and share experiences. Have you spoken with your doctors to see if there is a support group? Or do you have a close friend you could confide in? Perhaps join a prostate cancer support group just to read the posts because it may help when you see you're not alone. Hope this helps in a small way.

[Vitruviusman]

the truth is 99% of the truth is 99% of men that have prostate surgery, your cock is dead. The erectile dysfunction medicine doesn't do anything, the pumps are a torture chamber having to pump up your cock will just painful and then putting that rubber band like a tourniquet is excruciating. The only thing that works at the injections. However I can achieve a strong orgasm but my cock is soft. There's not that many support group for prostate cancer for gay men. I did go to one in Los Angeles which has a large one. Most of the men there have husbands and they did not experience the same isolation and social rejection while dating like a single men do. That even makes me feel worse. When I explain to them my depression, they don't understand it and tell me to get off at which is not very supportive. There isn't any support groups here for gay men in regarding prostate cancer. I have not had a date in over 5 years. I have not had sex in over 6 years. Once it's made known that I cannot get hard and dropped like a hot potato. I go to the gym 3 times a week 5 foot 8 145 lb 30 inch waist, 41" chest , still keeping in shape is still not good enough regarding dating. Initially there is an attraction of course and then after a few discussions when they find out I can't get hard all the sudden their not that interested

[billd9946 in reply to Vitruviusman]

Nice description. 😉

[Rodibolical]

I know how you feel. I thicken up but have lost a couple inches. It does get harder with Viagra but I dont last long due to lack of a regular sex life. When masturbating I like other manipulate the head and hold the base. Using the pump it gets thicker and ridged but after I put that ring on its still fill but floppy as it doesnt stand up at the base. I had a former sex partner spend the night and it was more than embarrassing as the complaint was that I used to be rock hard at night and in the morning now it never is. Even gave me a new nick name from gooddickrod to limpdickrod.

[Vitruviusman in reply to Rodibolical]

I do have intense orgasms but only a little blood flows into my cock. It does get thick but not rigid. Thank god for erotic images . ( I do not like the word PORN because it contains a negative connotation". I still have not had sex in over 6 years, not even a hug. I am once again trying to date. These past two months have resulted in nothing...NADA...niente......Zilch. I went on 3 dates.

[Vitruviusman]

To us MEN, having a hard cock is important comprehensively...a hard cock fuels our minds, body, souls..energizes our ability to be productive in our careers, in bed, at the gym to work out and make our bodies more powerful. Getting erect periodically throughout the day is God's/nature's way of stimulating a man's mind and body, as a booster shot of energy to keep us growing, developing, staying strong and mind/shart/body hard. We use our cock as a took to get things done. When a boy discovers his little dick as a boy, he realizes....through play, "Hmmmmm this thing DOES SOMETHING" He/we learn that use of this tool not only energizes us, it predisposes us to using tool to fix things, see how things work, set the stage innately to want to fix cars, using tools, engineering things , etc and yes, to impregnate our mates..using tools to get the job done. Now, that many of us here are compromised, out cocks are essentially dead , flaccid from what power we once had. It isjust as much a psychological injury as it is a physical one.. I do feel a bit emasculated after this.. My cock is dead, hangs like a freakin wet macaroni noodle, althought I do have intense orgasms....stilll.. it is just not enough.. I want to be young and studly again...

[DK1347 in reply to Vitruviusman]

Right on! Your description is sad but true.

[jimoco]

All of these replies are really helpful. Thanks, guys. I am nine months after surgery and have not dated since before my surgery. The sexual side effects have really affected me and as a single guy it’s quite a struggle. So much of gay identity is based on sexual performance. Friends asked me why am not dating because they consider me good looking. It’s so hard to explain.