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I swear some doctors dish out pills and potions willy nilly to keep us quiet half the time.

4 days ago i felt i was like a zombie and could barely walk for feeling giddy and weak,and i was expecting a parcel to be delivered,but a lady phoned me and asked if i was expecting a lawn mower,and i said yes,but it had been delivered to an address in the next road,and so i walked to the house and how i got there i do not know,and then i realised i needed to go home and get my car out as the parcel was to big to carry,so stumbled off home again,picked up the car,and made my way to the said house again...but i digress.

I stopped taking several prescribed pills 3 days ago,and i now feel really well,no giddiness,no walking like a drunk man,just really good.

I must confess i was getting rather concerned as i felt i was going to peg out at any time.My doctor has been prescribing a multitude of pills for anxiety tiredness and exhaustion,but now i feel normal ish,well,as normal as i will ever be,

The thing is,we have no idea what these drugs are doing to our insides,they might cure one thing but then cause another.?

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Don't get me started on this . I had to go seriously cold turkey on a cocktail of drugs I was given in hospital . I couldn't function . Thank goodness I couldn't drive then . I was 17 and a zombie . I didn't really hear conversations . These drugs were addictive too . As soon as I was off the tablets I was a different person . My sister has been prescribed all kinds of everything too some made her quite aggressive with me dealing with her moods and violence .You aren't wrong to flag this up .

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secrets22 in reply to focused1

Oh yes,some of these prescribed drugs are mind bending,and now i will only take the ones that are essential for my wellbeing..it is scary.But i am so glad you managed to get off the cocktail you were on,well done you.

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focused1Reading Rabbits in reply to secrets22

I take nothing . I was put off all these meds years ago but appreciate some are vital to peoples well being . My husband takes meds for photo sensitive epilepsy . He hasn't the confidence to try something new as he hasn't had a fit since he was 21 - almost 40 years ago but they are pickling his liver . He doesn't drink alcohol anymore - not even low alternatives . I opted for surgery for hiatus hernia as the meds were linked to some getting ulcers if taken long term . Medication is a lifeline for some but I feel with tighter restrictions some wouldn't get past the first hurdle if introduced now .

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Adlon57 in reply to focused1

Yes my ex-doctor would give me pills to counteract the side effects of pills he had previously prescribed, worst at one stage, nine 😤, I had a neuroma in my elbow, what does he do, he gets my hands x-rayed🙄? One of those doctors, who has pain killers for every situation, gets rid of the pain/effect but not the cause🙃🙃? Dressing room table like a Boots pharmacy🤬the mental effects😱! Four years with neuroma on elbow🥴🥴change the doctor, three months later, diagnosed, and surgically removed🤗🤗 Actually most of the pain killers, now past their use by dates now!👏👏

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focused1Reading Rabbits in reply to Adlon57

Your story is sadly very common. My most disturbing time was when I was younger and my father made a lot of choices for me which clearly were wrong . I could have been very very ill for years .

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Adlon57 in reply to focused1

There was a time I actually got hooked on those pain killers, a bad time, a nervous wreck, some even reacting to my epilepsy medication?

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focused1Reading Rabbits in reply to Adlon57

Medication is so complicated and doesn't suit all . I felt I knew me best . For me it worked but I was young and living with people which made it easier for me . I was bad for about 6 weeks trying to get off them . Hardly sleeping or able to eat . My weight went down to 42kg .

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Adlon57 in reply to focused1

That is where some doctors fail in that they are not able to identify with some of their patients, everyone is different, having different ills and conditions at different levels, its a good doctor who is able to identify rightly the level. Try to get rid of the source of the trouble, not pan them off with PAIN KILLERS!! They are a danger in themselves, the reliance on them as we both know, can cause more trouble than the original medical problem! I became extremely hyper-active, not nice to talk to at ALL!

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Hear hear secrets. A lot of people comment on this sort of reaction to different medications, in particular I have read several over the last few months about BP meds. They might steady one thing but at what cost - quality of life!! Surely there are better meds they can prescribe other than the ones that almost knock you out and cause ache and pains in the most unlikely places.

Well said!! You are so right

In 2016 I was in absolute agony in my upper right quadrant (2014 a professor said this was muscular) I went to my GP (she was annoyed I hadn't had any blood tests for ages. She got them done straight away)who referred me urgently We ended up going private (totally against the grain) to get a diagnosis. I was diagnosed with non alcoholic fatty liver disease caused by meds I'd been given over the years!! I had a biopsy in the November, it had progressed to non alcoholic steatohepitis. Then 12 months ago I had a fibroscan and have now got compensated cirrhosis. I think it was the pain meds that did it, problem is if I don't take any at all I wouldn't be able to get out of bed in a morning!!

Please be careful everyone.

Love and hugs Lynne xxxx ❤️🤗💜🤗

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focused1Reading Rabbits in reply to

Doesn't get any better . I was advised I needed a scan on my back . Through the post arrived a 6 page questionnaire and lucky me now has a phone consultation on Saturday . Delaying the actual scan if I am 'chosen' .

Didn't u ask for pills to turn u into a zombie😁😁? Joking but I am glad you are now fine. Word of advice : Run as far away from that doctor as possible before you become a real zombie.

A wise move to come off the meds if you can secrets. Glad you're feeling better.

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I have never had medication prescribed without consultation with my GP or hospital consultants. I suffer from severe clinical depression and having discussed it with my GP started taking anti-depressants.two years ago after a long gap.Mental health is no different from physical health.

I have a life threatening condition so have to take warfarin, and also now arthritis which is controlled by medication. Warfarin is a dangerous drug so is carefully monitored and the new medication I am on is also carefully monitored with six weekly blood tests.

I am on other medication as well - again carefully discussed with my GP as I am very intolerant to medication so anything new is carefully considered.

I wish I didn't have to take anything, but there are severe consequences if I don't. One thing I would say is beware of stopping medication suddenly - I learned the hard way 20 yrs ago when I decided I was no longer depressed and stopped my medication. I was very, very ill and had to go back on them and then come off them very slowly - bit at a time.

I think it's true that many of the medications that are prescribed for us are stronger medicine than are truly good for our overall health.

I can understand your wish to be rid of some of them secrets22, and I'm glad that you seem to be feeling better, but please do come off any medication in consultation with your GP.

I think sometimes we get to believing that we must accept a particular medication when we do, of course, actually have a choice.

My sister was a case in point. She had a bad fall with broken bones and spent time in hospital. On release she was prescribed a medication for osteoporosis and when she objected, was told 'oh we prescribe those for everyone over a particular age who has had fractures'.

They can have some serious side effects and she wasn't happy so had a phone consultation with her doc, asked for the consequences of not accepting them and decided they were not for her. After initial objections her GP said that it was absolutely her choice.

So do just make sure you aren't stopping something which needs to be tapered off or that is required for another medication which you are continuing to take.

But after that, if you are feeling better, great choice to be weaned off some of them!

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focused1Reading Rabbits in reply to

I have learnt from my own experience that medication for mental illness can be very complex . I totally agree that a lot of physical illnesses can be helped with the right meds . I personally felt almost an experiment with what I was prescribed . I started my life when I got off them and met different people.

I’ve had groin pain going right down to my knee so i called. Gp who told me to drop off urine sample and meantime collect a script for antibiotics in case it was an infection.I took them for 7 days ,had to be careful I’m allergic to most antibiotics which is on my notes,7 days later no improvement and sample was borderline,I called docs said to go down to surgery,examined my groin sent another sample away and gave me another seven days of same antibiotic because he was too lazy to research another type that I could take safetly. I decided I wasn’t going to just take more antibiotics handed out like sweeties so arranged an ultrasound privately for next day as I have kidney stones and didn’t want to mess about.Had scan done yesterday and radiographer said alls well,I said to her I have oesteoporosis in that hip and it’s quite painful just now could that cause groin pain,she said definately did your gp not discuss that with you stead of doling out antibiotics,nope never mentioned it.

Will I ever find a decent gp who’s not watching the clock when I go in or who tells me “one thing only” when I have serious health issues that overlap,no wonder we have no trust in them.x

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I empathise Daisydot1, as someone who has had a long ongoing condition which has been 'dealt with' by so many GPs that I've lost count. I don't have much confidence in most of them. They are often newly trained and part time and I've found a remarkable difference when I've been lucky enough to occasionally come across an old-timer who can see to the heart of the problem and be of some use. But the problem then is, you can never access them again as they are usually acting as a locum at your own practice, and the same occurs with a knowledgeable younger model who also vanishes, never to help you again. I feel for you as I know I've run the whole gamut of those who really understand what's going on, but can't fix me in one session, to the laissez-faire who are indifferent or really believe I must be making up the whole thing. It's very frustrating.

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You make a good point there as see the same person that you build a rapport with and who then doesn't have to spend most of the consultation reading your notes and asking you the same old questions seems key to sorting things out properly and swiftly .I have been disappointed to see so many people , getting someone you want to put in your pocket then never seeing them again . Gone are the days when I actually see my named GP who is worth seeing . I end up with a young locum who would be great company in a bar as they usually can chat for England about everything but not to get to the point of practical help/advice.

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I loved your description of the 'company at the bar'. That really resonated! The only advantage to seeing a variety of GPs is that occasionally it injects a new suggestion for diagnosis or help that actually takes things forward. But those suggestions are generally as rare as hen's teeth.

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I’ve sadly had to resort to using a private consultant professor who agrees my gps are in his words “bloody useless”.with his help I’ve managed to have the testing done I needed and get many answers confirming my research into things that I knew were wrong and gps had no interest in helping me with.I have a lot of things wrong with me some I’ve managed to get under control with the correct treatment some with lifestyle changes but it’s all been at a huge cost to us financially.I absolutely dread having to see a gp these days because I know it’s a complete bloody waste of time and effort and my stress levels just go through the roof,just once I’d love to meet a truly compassionate human being who loves having that ability to help change his patients lives for the better and doesent see us as a chore to get out the door in-ten minutes,I can dream lol.My professor is a lovely man,I don’t always agree with his treatment lans which I tell him but at least he listens to my suggestions and acts on my requests,it is my body and mind after all. The system tells us to take responsibility for our own health then persecutes us when we try,most of us have encountered that “ who do you think you are” attitude from gps if we dare to question.xx

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I was diagnosed "just depressed" when I had heart failure.

The doc did say the anti-depressants were an option.

I sought a second opinion and Doc 2 just wrote out a prescription and said "take these"!

The pharmacist diagnosed and I got a pulse oximeter and diagnosed Atrial Fibrillation.

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That's exactly my problem S11m. Catching my heart in the act! I've had the AF acknowledged via the app on my iwatch but it's just about impossible to gain a clinical diagnosis. Over four years I've had Holter monitoring so many times, but at mere mention of one, the AF immediately goes into retreat. But at least I have medication now!

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The Pulse Oximeter I used at the time recorded that my pulse was getting down to 30 at night, with an SPO2 of 75... and this is what got the GP's attention and got me to the cardio, who said that bradycardia was more likely to kill me than the Atrial Fibrillation!

I had three Cardioversions, two Catheter Ablations and two pacemakers.

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