Dear fellow humble kind members of the HU community I really want to apologize about my post yesterday it was really silly of me and I should know better I feel upset that I upset some members i honestly think that I offended some people please forgive me I should have wrote something different instead ☮️❤️
Much love hiba
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How did you offend some members Hiba?
well politics ☹️😖
You didn't upset anyone as far as I know Hiba and I really don't think you would if you could. Don't worry. xx
I don't know the ins and outs of this, not having seen the post, but I do know you're a sweet person Hiba ,who I'm sure would never intentionally hurt anyone! 💕
Hb no apologies necessary. You did nothing wrong. We are here to support each other.
thank you 💜
Good morning Hiba 🌞. I’m just going to repeat myself, we love you, always our little 👼. Keep smiling and stay positive on your Elightment Journey. ❤️☮️🙏xox
Hiba, you did nothing wrong and have nothing to apologise about, you are one of shining stars on this forum, and always will be 💕💕
You did nothing wrong at all Hiba, it came from the heart. You are a valued member of this community xx💜💜🌈
You didn't do anything wrong. You should be able to express your feelings. You can't help how the thread of the replies develops. The thing is, anything can become politicized and we all have different ideas of what is and what isn't political. The important thing is the intention. You had perfectly fine intentions. Please don't feel you can't say how you feel - being able to do that is such a valuable thing for all of us in this community. Love and hugs. 🙂🌸
Hiba....
i must tell you - that this is the very 1st post i've seen from you that i find offensive. i told you yesterday - you owe NO APOLOGY! you did NOTHING offensive - until now - that you imply what you did was offensive!!!!!
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let me spell this out - and if i offend anyone - i'm NOT sorry. this forum exists so people can connect to one another and heal themselves and others. that connection, and trust, can only come from blunt and honest discussions. sex, religion, and politics are the 3 primary reasons that there is anxiety, arguments, stress, mental illness, and even wars. i don't GAF what __ __ people say - these are NOT taboo subjects. they are the core of humanity. they are some of the few subjects that really matter!!! if we cannot have respectful, and honest conversations about these things - then just what TF is the point of talking at all???
should we just talk about the weather? maybe you'd like to hear some gossip about my aunt jenny??? let me give you a shocking truth. are ya sitting down??? aunt jenny's shinanigans, and the weather DO NOT cause mental illness. sex, religion, and politics - DO - they cause [IMHO] 90%+ of all the strife and stress we experience thru-out our lives!!!!
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it [IMHO] is not only critical that we talk about these things - it should be mandatory! and just as mandatory - these things should be spoken of with respect, and sensitivity - but they should be spoken of!
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this is critical for YOUR healing, Hiba!!!!! what you spoke about bothered you to your core - AND YOU KNOW WHAT!!??? it bothers me to MINE TOO!!!! we share this in common!!!! we share the anger; we share the outrage; we share the embarrassment; we share the shame!!!!!!
in this - we are ONE. we are human, and we are the truest of american patriots!!!!
anyone that disagrees with these ideals - is disagreeing with the intention of the founders of this country!! (or does "freedom of speech" only apply to 'your' idea of what speech is free to discuss???)
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if anyone can't handle the truth and the pain that comes with the truth - this is a free country - or at least IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE - you so are free to ignore these discussions, and go stick your head in the sandbox that makes you happy.
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am i opinionated on this - he!! yes, and passionate as all F*K too. that's what makes me - ME.
and part of what makes Hiba - HER - is what she posted yesterday!!!!
if you embrace Hiba - then you embrace ALL OF HER!!!!
i even embrace this post - that pissed me off!!!! because i embrace ALL of Hiba. I understand her desire not to cause pain or upset in others by her words.
But - Hiba - at some point - YOU COME FIRST!!! at some point - YOUR WORDS MUST MATTER FOR YOUR OWN WELL BEING!!!!! even if others find them offensive.
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i'm offended by your apology - but I require NO APOLOGY! my offense is MY F*CKIN problem - NOT YOURS!!!!!!
do not apologize to me for speaking honestly, and respectfully - your mind!!!
I support your right to do so - and i support your offending me!!!! it gave me the chance to vent the crap inside me - and by doing so - i argue we both are working to heal each other!!!!!
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and for that, Hiba - I THANK YOU.
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Hiba, You are a lovely person, don't worry about your hijab occasionally, nobody will be cross about it, just yourself. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes, forgive yourself and move on from it.
Hijab is elegant, but you can make it a tyrant. There are more important things to get worried about.
Cheers, Midori.
I am not bothered by it anymore 😁
Hi Hiba, this was unintentional through not understanding our rules, and I know that you do know now and won't do the same thing. So all's well!
strongly disagree, callendersgal;
the rules should be changed. they're wrong, and most importantly - they're inappropriate, and incongruous with the advertised purpose of this forum - to help those w/ mental issues.
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if the mental issues are caused and/or exacerbated by certain topics - people SHOULD be allowed to air their grievances, and discuss their feelings - as long as they do so respectfully.
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there was NOTHING disrespectful about what or how Hb2003 presented in that post.
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if people were offended - then they should hit the "skip to next message" - and STFU - and let people that are NOT offended lend an ear; a shoulder, or whatever - in order to give comfort and aid to others in pain.
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or - callendersgal - are you saying that this site only supports mental health as long as not 1 single solitary person is offended??? because there will ALWAYS be someone offended.
if that's really what you're saying - then maybe we should find a site that stands 100% behind what's best for people with problems - and what that is - is the ability to talk about their problems - openly and freely - and without fear of retribution.
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or maybe you should simply post a notice on the site - that says - "we only allow people w/ mental issues - that can speak positively about them".
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Hi 13 ga,
Two points here. The forum does not preclude discussion of mental health issues though it must be clearly understood that we are not trained to offer professional advice. Moderators are volunteers who offer their time but can only do so much in terms of the help we can give.
Politics other than the odd trivial reference to it is not permitted as we are fostering wellbeing here, and political comment often divides members and leads to the aggressive and passionate argument. HU is a health site and there are other online forums which exist to encourage divisive opinions.
Please stay, or go, whichever appeals to you, but I’m afraid politics remains firmly taboo.
tx for your reply, callendersgal;
i understand the sites' position. i simply think it's wrong.
i'm not promoting political discussions and debate over politics.
but when politics and political actions are the cause of mental unrest and unhealth... then it should be permitted.
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this was exactly the case in the original post that prompted the apology. there was nothing inflammatory in that post. just some hard truths.
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if your argument (for the site - not necessarily your personal argument) is that a legitimate, non inflammatory post that made slight reference to a political reason for mental unrest - should be banned....
well i simply couldn't disagree more strongly.
i think the powers that be, should do a serious rethink about this policy, and find a better way to implement the idea of discouraging political debate - while encouraging discussing mental health issues brought about by politics!!
and tx again for your time, and consideration.
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i just checked the site's home page...
it very clearly says - and i quote "find others like you"; "find emotional support"; "find communities"; "find experiences"
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maybe it should also read - " find all those things as long as you can do it without offending 1 single person in 1 million" !!!!
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if you're picking up on anger and sarcasm coming from me - you're darn right. but please don't think it's directed at you personally. it's directed thru you, as a moderator - to pass along to anyone that gives enough of a crap to make a change for the better of all.
You didn't offend me (obviously), but I appreciate you making this post because I want to apologize as well. I should have been aware that certain topics are not adherent to the community guidelines and not have participated. I apologize for not following the terms of the forum. If I offended anyone with my participation in the post in question, I am sorry. I will review the terms again and make sure that I follow the guidelines in the future.
I am so glad to be part of this forum. I appreciate this community and all of you lovely folks ❤️
🙂 Hope the first day went well!
Thank you CJasmin. There's really no need to apologise though as this was an honest mistake and now you do know that it's a no-go area. As moderators we have learned through experience that there are several topics which can quickly get out of control in the community and we step in with those pretty quickly, but I know that, like the majority of our members, once you understand our rules, you follow them, so we can just put this behind us and move on. But it was really kind of you to apologise for accidentally stepping over the line. Thanks again!🙏
Of course 🙏 And thank you for all you do
Dearest Hb2003, I really do not think you have anything to apologies for. You are not responsible for how others react and respond, no matter what the topic might be.
I think I did reply to the post you are referring too, thinking and referring to the time we are in right now; I did come on the following day and the post had been removed.
Unfortunately, I feel it may have been me seeing red and jumping on my high horse, replying to someone else replying to you, which has caused this upset, I am really sorry if my actions have caused you to feel bad; this truly was the furthest thing from my mind.
You are such a strong, well informed, conscientious individual; you certainly do not deserve any back lash for anything you have said; I am honoured to be able to learn from you.
I on the other hand, need to learn to bite my tongue and pick my battles carefully.
As I said, I am non religious, I am also non political and should just leave such topics to those with the knowledge.
I hope you are doing ok and able to stay positive with everything that is going on around you, you are a real inspiration Hb, thank you for being You.
I am sending the warmest of wishes and gentle hugs, remember and be kind to yourself.
Stay safe, keep well and be strong.
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