So yesterday was the hottest day of the year and everyone forgets there even is a virus .
Bournemouth beach , people packed together like sardines. Then last night Liverpool FC wins the cup and more people all crowded together celebrating.
Scotland isn't any better with people all gathering together at Kelvingrove park .
It really is disgraceful behaviour.
Me I will be fine , hopefully. But the people I really feel sorry for are the ones who have been shielding for the last 14 weeks trying to keep themselves occupied and if we have a second spike in cases they will have to stay in all over again.
Sorry rant over 😊
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I couldn’t agree more! The selfishness and stupidity is beyond comprehension. Over 40000 people have died, in horrific circumstances, and still some people just don’t get it! That’s my rant over 😊
I’m ok, thanks. I’m one of those shielding as you know, so not been going out other than a daily walk. But we are lucky enough to have a garden, and I’ve spent some time on my new sewing machine, making face masks and some pyjamas - inspired by Sewing Bee 🐝 🤣 I keep my eye on you and my other VRB’s though 👀 and can see you’re still doing great 👍😁
It's disrespectful carrying on like that in a national emergency when so many have died and there's lots newly bereaved as well.
How are you anyway? I was cross for those who were asked to shield since March seeing that on the news and then there was the panic buying fiasco back in March which was selfish and unnecessary and last week on the news Greggs had reopened and are only doing a limited menu at present and there were people complaining because they aren't doing corned beef pasties at present or the chocolate flake cakes on the net and myself and my friends thought this was a selfish way to behave when theres so many in the world starving and how there's times when we have to go without and just have something that's there not mouth off on social media!
Hi, yes, people need to get there priority’s right! I’ve found that it’s made me more conscious of what I buy and ask the question do I really need all this food and ‘stuff’, and have actually been spending less, which I hope will continue! Hope you’re doing ok, keep safe 😁
I'm well thanks for asking. I have spent less as well as lockdown has made me reevaluate things as well and if I don't need to be at places then I don't bother nowadays!
It's as though we are having a 2nd peak of madness at the moment. I guess there are many reasons for it. Are the lifting of restrictions being rolled out too fast. Because there is less virus in the community, do people think it is going away. There is only less in the community because we stay away from each other and social distance, when we are not doing this, the virus will increase because of it. I intent to carry on hand washing, limiting who I see, just to family and continuing with social distancing, alongside, wearing a mask in enclosed spaces. 🌸🌻
I worry too what will happen when the pubs open.Are people just going to go mad? Will they keep to the rules.?I too guess there are many reasons, but I suspect that theres been an underlying feeling of people not wanting to do as theyre told and the idea that it 'only happens to others,not me'.Having said that, a lot of people have kept to the rules and as you say, thats why the virus has diminished.
Couldn’t agree with you more. People are so stupid or ignorant. I know we’re all fed up etc. But this is no excuse to go out like nothing has happened. With no clear instructions from the government, it’s no wonder things have gone crazy
As a shielder I couldnt agree more Although Ive kept myself occupied and it hasnt been that difficult for me I wont be very happy if I have to do it all over again. Im more angry about the lack of respect for those who have died, lost loved ones, and our NHS workers who put their own lives at risk every day.The behaviour is disgraceful. I think social distancing went out of the window ages ago for many people -for some it never started, like my neighbours.
I see your point Jerry and completely respect it. It's not the beach goers that I really object to, it's the actions of anyone that puts already overstretched emergency services under even more pressure.
Lots of beaches had visitors who were able to social distance and have a nice time but unfortunately one area of the country was overwhelmed.
Similarly, as you said, the crowds in Liverpool were no different to a crowd on a beach. It's the fall out of any gathering that bothers me.
I lost one of my NHS family, a critical care nurse to CV-19. She caught it from a patient and was just doing her job. The more the staff are put under pressure the more exhausted they are physically and mentally.
Its like a stone being thrown in a pond, there are always ripples that effect other people, not just the main event of the stone being dropped.
Same here, it’s disgusting behaviour from a species that claims to be intelligent. To see the ‘non intelligent’ people being interviewed grinning and stating they aren’t concerned and just want a good time, Just highlights the selfishness of man. They seem totally unaware that it is they who will cause the second spike. They will be moaning when out of pocket with no handouts etc etc. Greedy, selfish individuals 😡
I think media manipulation shouldn't be forgotten. The way they take videos and pictures is deliberate. Zooming and weird angles all sorts of tricks.
I doubt people are packed like sardines on the beach, its just made to look that way.
What's unpleasant to hear is the demonising of people that's happening. I believe the media is culpable in fostering that divisiveness. Then people have this nonsense going round in heads, and go out unaware of their own hostility to other people.
I'm just suggesting another way of looking at things. Because the manipulations are so subtle we rarely realise they're happening.
When I watched yesterday I saw mainly young people. I feel quite sorry for the families living in cramped conditions, without gardens and getting on each others nerves. If a day out helps them then that's a good thing.
If the media just made it look that way why did the town declare a major incident and yes I do also feel sorry for people who don't have their own back garden.
Exactly buddy, those wide angle lenses didn’t create those major traffic jams and tail backs, leading to the coast.......greedy selfish people did. Even with the wide lenses, there were clearly crowds on the beaches. Listening to radio 2 yesterday, the locals were completely devastated at the amount of rubbish left behind, including human excrement. Nothing to do with camera angles created that. Disgusting behaviour from a supposedly civilised society.
Absolutely disgusting when I comes to people leaving behind their waste and I don't mean all the litter that was left behind. Which then resulted in voulenteers going to the beach very early the next day to pick it all up. 😊👍
You're right getting angry doesn't achieve anything. It's a rotten time when all you want to do is go to the beach and enjoy yourself. I'm just thinking of others.
I've still been able to walk my dog and go running which I enjoy very much still staying well away from others 😊
That sounds like a double meaning catty reply. Or am I wrong?
The actually data showed £65 per week spent on groceries. This was marginally more than average, due in part to families having lunch at home, and shopping less frequently.
Just because you saw someone buying extra items of things doesn't mean it was all for themselves. They may have shopped for others and helped reduce foot fall in the shops.
The empty shelves were also due to the use of JIT in supermarkets, unable to cope with the sudden surge in demand. They adapted quickly to capitalise on their sales income. Whilst doing very little else to help people e.g. more online slots, or adequate sanitising facilities in store.
I shop every 5/6 days so yes my trolley is full but I don't want to be going everyday
I never underestimate the stupidity of the population. I went shopping today and saw those 'types' stocking up on their alcohol. Obvious what they were planning. Heat and alcohol don't mix, especially to the extent they probably drink.
No wonder Greece and decent places don't like British tourists.
My point wasn't that its not happening, but that the media distorts things and manipulates the viewer all the time.
Hi Buddy 34, I've been shielded for 12 weeks up until now. But it looks like ill have to keep doing it as im due to go in hospital for Abdominal Surgery.
Was all ready to go in when this horrendous Virus started.
My next door neighbour passed away with the Coronavirus about 5 weeks ago.
My Daughter-in-law's uncle passed away the same day as him. Then my Daughter-in-law's Brothers Wife passed away 3 weeks ago.
When i see all those stupid Idiot's crammed up on the Beaches, i think to myself "yes you're gonna cause a lot more Deaths for the Public that are still self shielding and for the NHS Staff Workers.You probably won't get it, but you'll help cause it".
Some People just don't give a damn.
Not enough is being done to enforce the Social Distancing. Just because the Virus is slowing down, it doesn't mean that it has gone away. Its still out there.
I wonder how many people got infected yesterday on the Beaches. Then I wonder how many of our NHS frontline medic's
will lose their lives because of looking after them. I think that they should close the Beaches down again. They are going way to fast in Lifting the Lockdown. 🙄
Someone was saying on the news that 2/3 of us need to be immune for us to have herd immunity - but they do not know.
If herd immunity was not working, the mass gathering would have caused a spike in cases before now.
In London, the infection rate is now low - because they did not close down transport... giving them a high initial rate of infection, which has resulted in herd immunity?
I respect what you are saying but for me that initial high rate of infection is only good if like me you didn't catch anything . I count myself very lucky as all my friends , family , neighbours are safe but I really feel I would think differently if we weren't. I have only seen glimpses of really ill people on TV and that was enough.
I think you just said what we are all thinking. I have been in self isolation for nearly 4 months now as I was put on the at risk list, the joke is with that amount of people, I wouldn't want to be there on a normal sunny day. It is even worse though as there have been parties around where I live and there nothing anyone can really do, we just have to hope for the best and stay safe. xx
Early morning and these beaches were empty . Why not block , turn people away when these beaches were getting full . Block off roads to all but local traffic . I use to live in Eastbourne . I never used the local beaches as 4 miles down the road were small empty coves .
Here in Scotland we have a beauty spot called ' The Devils Pullpit' it had been taped off because of to many visitors and people parking like idiots with no consideration for other road users making it dangerous. As if today people have went there and pulled all the tape down and did what they were asked not to. 🤬
Hi Buddy, it's no good just having tape put up there. 🤔These type of people are so inconsiderate, selfish and stupid. They're not gonna take any notice of the tape being there.
The Police need to be there, anyone making any trouble, give them a hefty fine. Not just a warning because they won't take any notice of that.
I agree and feel really sorry for the limited council workers who have to work so hard to clean up awful mess . No loos and a crazy amount of litter . Employees should be respected but probably a bad time to speak out as job cuts are high .
Yes I agree with you..Everything is just crazy, all because of a lot of irresponsible,stupid people. The World will never be the same as it used to be. I read somewhere today that the Virus will be here again in about October, and we will get it
every year. God help us🙏 and
God help the NHS.
So many more loss of Lives.
Ordinary people like us and Doctors and Nurses working on the front Line. Home Care Workers etc.
I am not over worried about getting it as what we have done as a family has worked so far . Planning = only me doing a big shop at a supermarket I know the layout of . Avoiding crowds whilst respecting social distancing without being rude .Although I am getting increased workload now I feel the people I work for are on my wavelength . I am not in any hurry to be first to go to pub , meals out or hairdressers - never mind holidays where my thought are - pillows , mattresses, towels , food and 100's of rules which would make my hols a nightmare as we do like to do Carefree.com getaways which mean no worries for our precious time away together . My legs will now walk further and the car is alternative ' public transport'. I can't do anymore and refuse to beat myself up damaging my mental health because of others stupidity.
Oh gosh ..didn't realise . I had hiatus hernia a few years ago and had to endure so many awful tests before I was rewarded with surgery . I was promised an overnight hospital stay but the day of my 5 hour op I was told that if I didn't agree to leave that evening then my surgery couldn't go ahead . I can't remember much about coming home except it was freezing cold and I couldn't stop shaking . A month on a liquid diet , 18 months on a PARIS rehab exercise programme at a local gym and 18kg lighter aged 60 I feel a new person . Lets hope your op makes you feel better in many ways.
I also have a 16 cm Haitus Hernia,but they can't repair it because I have so many other medical problems. I have 2 Heart Valve's that aren't working properly but they can't find a Surgeon that would perform the operation because they said that I wouldn't survive it. I have COPD,Angina and Asthma. Also an Umbilical Hernia.
I have Rheumatoid Arthritis,Osteoarthritis also Osteoporosis.
I have never drank in my life but I have an Enlarged Liver with Cysts both on the inside and outside of my Liver,Cysts on the one Kidney,Cyst on the Pancreas,Blocked Bile Duct a sludgy Gallbladder and i large Gallbladder. I also have Chronic Fibromyalgia for which I get very bad pain.
When I am in hospital tha Doctors call me either Trouble or their Nightmare. Not in a Nasty way,they are all so very good with me i can't fault any of them.
Back last month on the News on the TV, they were showing pictures of some of the Doctors that had lost their lives whilst working on the front line with Covid 19 Patients.
One of those Doctors was looking after me a few years ago.
My Hubby is also going through it with his health.
Wow ..and I felt so sorry for myself having to endure endoscopes , tubes down my nose and on 24 hour monitor just to be told what I had been battling with for 18 months as I knew lanzoprazole were long term awful for me and inhibiting B12 too which meant more tablets . I have had to be very firm on several occasions doing my own research especially when my 17 year old son studying hard to get to uni was told he hadn't grown enough to have a knee op but in the states the identical surgery was being done routinely on 12 year olds . I feel you may have to shop around to see whether there are shorter ops . keyhole etc - even consider crowd funding as I am sure many with less ailments have had to do similar . A group of us did a 4 hour Zumbathon to raise funds for a local boy to have pioneering treatment and I am sure similar would do it for you if you found alternative private treatment .
Hi Focused1. I hope you don't mind, but I just sent you a long message a few minutes ago. Just before I saw your last one. I have been on Lansaparasole for about 9 years now. I used to be on Omarparosol but the Consultant said that the Lansoprazole was a better tablet.
I also take Buscopan and Gaviscon. But none of it helps. Everyone around where i live are Pensioners like us. We wouldn't know where to start to raise Funds. My Hubby is 76 years old and I'll be 76 on July 17th.
And to be honest , i feel too ill to bother with anything.
The only other way is for me to go Privately. But it would cost between 15 and 18 Thousand Pounds.
That was disgraceful,you having to leave the same evening.
A Haitus Hernia operation is Major Surgery for goodness sake.
You were probably shaking partly from the cold weather and partly due to the shock of the operation. 12 years ago my Hubby was getting so out of breath all the time and he was getting pains in his chest.
They thought that he had Angina and gave him a Trinitrate Spray to use, the same one that I use.
Well it didn't work for him,so they did some tests and found out that he had an enormous Haitus Hernia.
Not only had his stomach come up into his chest but so had his bowels. They were so far up in his chest that they were pressing on his Heart and Lung's .Thats why he was so out of breath , not because of Angina .
They did the Hernia repair and he was in hospital for 10 days.
He was great after that for about a year Then he began to have trouble swallowing. It got to a point where he couldn't swallow a tablet, then he couldn't even swallow water. I rang my Son and told him that his Dad wasn't well. He was over our house in a flash. Took one look at his Dad and said Mum he has to go to hospital. He took his Dad to hospital and after he'd had several tests they came and told us that where he'd had the Haitus Hernia repair job done. It was so extensive because of the type of the Hernia. He had so many stitches and pucker's inside.
It was all sticking together.
He had so many stitches etc..
He had Adhesions and he was critical. He was attached to a type of overhead bag from tubes in his Neck,Chest and Stomach. He was like that for a couple of weeks without being operated on. Not a sip of water passed his lips. I kept on asking them when were they going to operate. All they kept telling me was that they have to have a bed for him in HDU, or that the Surgeon only likes to work with one particular Anaesthetist for this type of procedure, or they have to find a slot in Theatre . I myself had only came out of hospital 2 days before my Hubby went in, because I'd had bones taken out of my hand because of the Arthrits,my arm was in plaster and in a sling. Every time I went to visit my Hubby i could see that he was losing so much weight. The one day I noticed that one of the feeding tubes in my Hubby's neck was inflamed. I pointed it out to the Nurse and she said Oh it's alright.
3 times i pointed it out and then I began to lose my temper.
I said ( it's not bloody right.i want a Doctor here and now ).
The idiot Nurse got the Doctor.
I was right. My Hubby had a blood clot. He'd been in 4 weeks and nothing had been done. So the one day that we were visiting him,i asked my Son to go across to the Nurses Station and ask for a Complaint Form .They didn't like it,but they couldn't refuse. So when I got home I went through the various telephone numbers for various complaints. I rang one of them up and the Lady was lovely. I told her everything, i also told her that if someone don't help my Husband soon, the only way I'll be bringing him home will be in a box.
She told me that someone will be ringing me back within the next 10 minutes and she was absolutely sure that everything will be sorted.
I thought to myself ,oh please don't fob me off. But she didn't.
10 minutes later another Lady rang me and asked me how she could help me. I told her what was going on and how long my Hubby had been in hospital with nothing being done.
Oh , she said, right you just leave it with me. I thought "Oh Thank God ".
Half an hour later my Hubby rang me. He said " Glo what the hell have you been up to. Everything have been manic up here. '. The Surgeon, an Anaesthetist, The Ward Sister was called in. They all went to see my Hubby and he was operated on the following morning.
Apparently i couldn't have spoken to anyone better on the telephone.
She was only the one in charge of all the Operating Theatres.
When I went to see my Hubby the following day he looked so weak.
But it was lovely to see him without all those tubes coming out of him. Two days later my Daughter-in-law took me to the Doctors because i had a terrible itchy rash on the right side of my Butt. Bloody hell i couldn't believe it,i only had Shingles. So I couldn't even visit my Hubby.
My Son used to drive me to the hospital and I'd wave to my Hubby through the window. But if I hadn't made that complaint I don't know what would have happened.
It is annoying that you don't seem to get any action until you complain . Are we too polite ? I am now sadly used to this so I diary everything . Yes I came home bewildered from Hiatus hernia . Given a fruit yogurt with lumps in before I was sent home with diet sheet = liquids for a month . Given coffee but sheet said no coffee not even decaff. My husband bought a nutrabullet blender and all went in there. Brilliant weight loss of over 7lb in a week but felt shocking as strong painkillers were quite dangerous as I needed my wits to get to the loo! Couldn't even see properly to clean my teeth.
Yes - I shouldn't have been discharged so soon but we do have plan of nobody turning up next time in a rush as I couldn't have gone home alone .My husband came too soon ...he 'could' have been working nights as my notes stated overnight stay.
Well weight loss might have been okay. But you lost it in the wrong way. Hospitals Grrrrrr.
Year's ago i used to work in the Royal Gwent Hospital. I started off as a Domestic on the Ward. Then I applied for the job of Auxiliary and got it. I worked on the Theater Recovery Ward and I loved it.
But I was involved in a horrific car crash and we didn't realise until many years later just how much my back had been injured.
Anyway I was pensioned off because they said that I was a liability to myself ,my Patients and my colleagues.
What a change in the hospital's today. I don't think that I would like to work in there now.
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