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Took my tablet about 2 hours ago. Now, at 11am, my BP is 116/66. Very healthy no doubt but I must admit I feel better if it is 145/85. Before PMR it was always very high!

In England they used to say 160/85 was perfectly alright for an 82 year old. Any comments??

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Personally, I think 116/66 is too low for most people and definitely too low for you - especially if you can feel symptoms. 145/85 is a bit equivocal the 85 is definitely better, the 145 is going to be a bone of contention though!

OH worked closely with a top-notch vascular surgeon who always complained about the GPs who kept their older patients at too low a BP for the good of the patient. He believed that the inevitable effects of aging on the cardiovascular system meant that you need a higher BP to ensure the brain and there peripheral circulation still gets a good enough blood supply. He had a point - low BP leads to falls, falls lead to the potential for head injuries or broken hips, neither of which are likely to have a good outcome.

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Constance13 in reply to PMRpro

Thanks! Over here (Germany - for those that don't know me) they think it's high at 145/85. I, however, feel great at those levels - far more energy.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Constance13

I'm sure it probably would be considered high in the UK these days. But for older patients - other rules need to apply for safety.

No doubt considered out-of-date, this explains the point:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

and it seems a study published last year agrees to some extent:

medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

If I were you, I'd be insisting on discussing the fact you feel better at a slightly higher level - that 66 diastolic is pretty low and it always makes medics look at OH. It is the nightime levels falling even further that is the problem in the older patient who needs to get up to the bathroom during the night which puts the at risk of falls.

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Constance13 in reply to PMRpro

Can't get any links any more - they come up as "400 Bad request"!

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Constance13

Have you reported it to HU? It was a problem a couple of weeks ago for a couple of people. They are working for me.

Are you using the app? Think there is a problem there ...

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Constance13 in reply to PMRpro

Yep! Using the app!

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MrsNails in reply to Constance13

If you got in touch with HU Support they’d tell you to delete it & used the Web Based Page, that’s what l’ve done & made a link to it on my phone. Cheers

Angela

Try This.....

healthunlocked.com

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Constance13 in reply to MrsNails

Yep! That works. Thank you.👏

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MrsNails in reply to Constance13

Just make a short cut on your phone 📱

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Constance13 in reply to MrsNails

Ooooer - how do I do that? I use an ipad!

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MrsNails in reply to Constance13

Open the link l sent you -

There’s a square blue box at the right hand at the top - with an arrow pointing upwards.

Select that & a small screen will open & you can select “Add To Home Screen”

It will Open with the HU Green Logo & it’s called Favourites - you can change the Name & it will Pop Up on Your Screen!

Hopefully 🙏🏼

I’ll send some photos

Angela

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Constance13 in reply to MrsNails

Only blue box there is 'open' no arrow. You don't need to say it - I know it's me!! I'll look again when I'm not so tired!🤪👵🏻

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MrsNails in reply to Constance13

Hope this helps 🙏🏼

Chart
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Constance13 in reply to MrsNails

Ha ha! No photo.😂😂

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MrsNails in reply to Constance13

If you are still using the App you WON’T be able to see them 🤦🏻

I’ll PM you 😉

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Constance13 in reply to MrsNails

Got it!

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Pixix in reply to Constance13

No it’s not you I don’t think...unless it’s me as well! I’m on my iPad, too, and all I get is the blue box with ‘open’ on it! I use the app and see most things but there’s a huge big gap on Mrs Nails post! I’m happy to delete the app but only if I continue to get the email with daily posts. If I don’t receive that I will never remember to look at the web site each day, that’s for sure! S x

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Constance13 in reply to Pixix

Photos often don't come up on the forum now (which is a great pity because a lot of them cheered us up - best 'medicine' for PMR).

I will keep the App but turn to main page of HU to see links.

Pixix profile image
Pixix in reply to Constance13

Thanks! Sounds like a plan.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to MrsNails

Thankyou Angela - not my world at all that!!!!

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MrsNails in reply to PMRpro

No Probs - A Team Effort! 😉

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to MrsNails

Aren't you impressed I managed to put 2 and 2 together????

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MrsNails in reply to PMRpro

Very 😉

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MrsNails in reply to Constance13

Sounds like you are using the App Constance - it’s just not working anymore, l’ve ditched it!

Hacey profile image
Hacey in reply to PMRpro

What’s OH please?

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Constance13 in reply to Hacey

"Other half".😂

Hacey profile image
Hacey in reply to Constance13

Maybe not in the context of medics looking at OH? Lol

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Constance13 in reply to Hacey

😂😂

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Longtimer in reply to Constance13

That's what mine is...GP days it's fine.....

Kendrew profile image
Kendrew in reply to PMRpro

I remember when I was nursing..120/80 was the recommended 'norm'.....and woe betide the student nurses who dared to argue the case for individual norms?

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Constance13 in reply to Kendrew

I rang 111 once about 15 years ago and told them my BP was 185/90 and they said go to A&E asap. Which I did - the doctor was very concerned but everything was tested and I was OK. The nurse afterwards said "the doctor is very young and takes things rather seriously - take a couple of Aspirins and you'll be OK"!!!

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piglette

In the good old days 160/90 was considered OK. When I was in hospital my BP systolic went up to 212, i don’t know what the diastolic was as there was a dreadful klaxon noise and flashing lights. They just switched the machine off. Later on I fainted and it showed 55/40. That did worry them!

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Koalajane

Just done mine and it is 120/58!

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Susan1705

my normal blood pressure is 115/65 (I am 61) I would be really worried if it went to 160's. I guess we are used to our normal and what works for us.

prunus profile image
prunus

After reading what you said I went and took my readings. As you know I'm two years older than you and mine just now were 138/71 with a pulse of 75. I feel OK at this level. Very interesting to read what PMRpro says on the matter.

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Constance13 in reply to prunus

I am usually fine on about that level too. My BP goes up and down like a yo-yo but I can't cope with it going down so often. I even tried going without the BP tablets for a while but it rose to 170/85 so started up again at half strength.

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prunus in reply to Constance13

I can understand that. It looks like you need to experiment to find what is right for you. I don't take any BP tablets but I try to have a Mediterranean diet.

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Pr0jection

I'm 78 and I've just taken my BP. It's 104/65 with pulse at 81. I'm just halfway through my morning stretching exercises. I don't feel weak, unwell or dizzy in any way. The temperature here is in the upper 30'sC and my BP is always much lower when it's hot. During the winter months it goes up considerably, to around 146/81, 142/84, and one time when I visited my GP my systolic was 180 which caused her some concern. I've been on 7.5mg pred for almost a year. About 10 years ago I was put on 5mg amlodipine by a doctor who may not have understood 'white coat syndrome'. 2 years ago my BP was so low that I weaned myself off the BP medication over several months (with the agreement of my GP). Being on pred has made no difference. As I see it I have neither low or high blood pressure, it just fluctuates quite a bit depending on the time of year, and it seems that exercise reduces it even more. I have a 3mm brain aneurism which has not grown in the 6 years since diagnosis so I think keeping my BP low is probably a good thing. I would welcome any comments.......

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Amkoffee

I was always told that my blood pressure was good. It was always around 140/70. Then all of a sudden my doctors were telling me that my BP was to high and put me on 2 BP meds. Come to find out the recommendations (in the US) changed to 130/70. So suddenly now I've got "hyper tension" and yet my BP never changed.

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Constance13 in reply to Amkoffee

It's mad, isn't it? Of course doctors have to give advice about BP (especially if it extra high) but 130/70, 140/70?? I would agree that 170/180 is far too high but many older people have much higher readings, are on BP tablets and still don't die. My mother in law's BP was often 185/90 but she still lived until she was 96.

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