Palmar Erythema: Does having red palms if you... - PBC Foundation

PBC Foundation

9,484 members8,376 posts

Palmar Erythema

gg11 profile image
gg11
9 Replies

Does having red palms if you have PBC mean you have cirrhosis?

Written by
gg11 profile image
gg11
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
9 Replies
Candy12 profile image
Candy12

I’ve had red palms since I was diagnosed 12 years ago, and I don’t have any cirrhosis or any significant fibrosis. So I don’t think it correlates. It’s not something I’ve asked or worried about.

gg11 profile image
gg11 in reply toCandy12

Thank you for your response. I was diagnosed with pbc in March 2021. Had biopsy, stage 2/3. Noticed the red palms in late December. Also having on and off pain in right shoulder, and right side of middle and lower back. Liver enzymes have normalized since starting urso. My hepatologist is sending me for an ultrasound. I'll try not to worry so much.

Watchingtv2 profile image
Watchingtv2

I have had red palms for years before diagnoses of PBC. My consultant asked how long my palms had been red. As it was a sign of liver disease. I don’t have scissors and my fibroscan didn’t show any fibrosis. I was diagnosed in December 2020.

gg11 profile image
gg11 in reply toWatchingtv2

Thank you for replying. It eases my mind a bit. I get sucked into the internet abyss sometimes. Will have to wait and see what ultrasound shows and what my hepatologist has to say at my next appt.

IAmTheGlue profile image
IAmTheGlue

I’m in early cirrhosis and I do not have red palms.

gg11 profile image
gg11 in reply toIAmTheGlue

Do you have any symptoms?

IAmTheGlue profile image
IAmTheGlue in reply togg11

I have thought about how to answer this for a couple of days. I was diagnosed after having my last child and quite honestly I did not believe that either of us would survive the pregnancy. He has a global development delay that could be related to my poor health during the pregnancy. I was absolutely yellow when I had him. I had a c-section, my uterus was yellow. My amniotic fluid was yellow. I was very, very sick.

So... from that point, already in early cirrhosis, I am much, much better. I used to swell up like I was 6 months pregnant and like I said, absolutely lemon yellow.

Currently, I am okay. I have a beautiful life and I'm beyond grateful for every single day I am given.

I think what you are asking is "do you have symptoms I can look for?" as in to know if your disease is progressing or "what will cirrhosis look like for me in the future if I get to that point?" I don't know.

I don't want to discourage you. As I said, it's a beautiful life. I do have symptoms. I'm tired. All my teeth started breaking off. Literally just crumbling. Ugh. I ended up getting them all pulled and getting dentures. My eyes and mouth are extremely dry so I take Salagen 3 times a day and use daily disposable contacts as a moisture barrier. My hair is thin and brittle. My fingernails are brittle. I bruise easy and if I get cut it sucks to try to stop the bleeding. I have edema. I have bone, joint and muscle pain. BUT.... I manage. I eat healthy food. I drink tons of water. I try to exercise .

It's a beautiful, wonderful life. I never try to focus on what's bad. I focus on the good. I have been doing this for four years and I'm holding my own. I have know people who have had this disease for many, many years and not progressed. Other people who speed through the stages like it's a race.

Stay strong. 🌸

gg11 profile image
gg11 in reply toIAmTheGlue

Thank you for your thoughtful and honest response. It's unfortunate that you're going through this ordeal. You seem to have a positive yet realistic attitude about your pbc. I don't want to let worries about this disease's progression consume my thoughts. Hopefully someday I'll be able to deal with whatever comes my way with the kind of grace and gratitude you have. Best of luck to you!

21parker profile image
21parker in reply toIAmTheGlue

Thank you for sharing. You are incredibly strong and positive - and your an inspiration . Continue to be strong.

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

PBC and lactic acid overload

Does anyone have any information in regards to lactic acid overload and severe fatigue? Do you...
mobster profile image

PBC Foundation App

So, I am writing to you on the subject of the app, once again. I hope you have already joined the...
PBCRobert profile image
Partner

Frequent tests

Hi all. I am wondering if you can help us. We are asking you what tests you have that are common,...
PBCRobert profile image
Partner

Shaky and tired

Hello lovely people Can I ask if any one gets very shaky and light headed when they have over done...
246810 profile image

Organ donor card

Hi guys hope your all well. A wee question...can you give blood and have an organ donor card if you...
BabyK profile image

Moderation team

See all
PBCCheryll profile image
PBCCheryllAdministrator
janethomas profile image
janethomasModerator
Cupcake1971_ profile image
Cupcake1971_Moderator

Content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the relationship between you and doctors or other healthcare professionals nor the advice you receive from them.

Never delay seeking advice or dialling emergency services because of something that you have read on HealthUnlocked.