I'm taking a table spoon of turmeric powder , pepper , cinnamon in juice , milk or in water every day cause it has a strong anti_inflammatory substance called circumin for inflammation ..
Just yesterday, I been told from one Pbc.org's member that turmeric is not good for gallbladder and bile duct related problems it might rather harm than heal she sent me a link too .. I been taking for 3 months now I feel fine and I'm thinking it is helping me ..
Anyone here who have any knowledge or heard anything about turmeric powder ..
Thank you
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Yes I did read about turmeric in PBC quite some time ago but I now don't know where. I had previously read that it might be good for purposes you mentioned but then I read otherwise.
Apparently turmeric can perhaps cause bile ducts to become blocked but I don't know where the information has come from.
I think with a lot of things that has little or not enough information but not of a non-toxic nature might be best as the phrase goes, 'little and often'.
I occasionally add a bit of turmeric to white rice when it is cooking (don't for brown when I alternate) and it is added to certain sauces I buy for making my own curries. (I tend to buy a good quality one where I can see the ingredients and choose the lower fat varieties, then use chicken normally and put onion and frozen garden peas or fresh tomato if a tomato based curry.)
Might be wise to ask you consultant about turmeric if he/she knows.
You didn't state how long you had been taking your turmeric drink but if you started prior to a repeat blood and then had one whilst you were taking out of interest was there any difference?
For anti-inflammatory purposes coffee is supposed to be good for the liver but only if taken in a couple cups a day apparently. I did post on here last year about coffee and the article I read about the 'health benefits' of it. I only have a coffee following breakfast and then one before the evening meal. I tend to switch to a couple cups of red tea with a splash of milk early evening as it is caffeine-free and apparently rehydrates as opposed to dehydrates like standard tea and coffee can.
Hello, just read the article you have linked. The one thing that first struck me was that this is a site that seems to be wholly for turmeric which I personally would be sceptical about.
The article doesn't to my way of reading actually benefit PBC as such but it claims that turmeric can help slow down the progression of cirrhosis.
Though I am an advocate of natural products that may help I personally tend to tread a lot of things with caution.
I've posted as a Post the short article on coffee I originally put here some time last year. It actually states drinking slightly more than the 2 cups I mentioned (well I use a pot actually so does that count?). The article doesn't claim to slow down PBC, it mentions the fact it could protect against cirrhosis.
I was taking turmeric (supplement not powder) for osteoarthritis but have stopped due to advice posted on the Web MD website under side effects:
'Gallbladder problems: Turmeric can make gallbladder problems worse. Do not use turmeric if you have gallstones or a bile duct obstruction.'
The Web MD website (webmd.com) is useful (US & UK) and seems to be pretty reliable and it did make me think that I needed to do a little more research before using turmeric again. Checking with the PBC foundation is a very good idea.
I'm sure that many of us are taking supplements that we probably shouldn't be taking due to interactions/side effects/harmful dosages but it is difficult to get an accurate picture about supplements as so often the press and online articles only give part of the story.
I'm not sure if the foundation have covered this subject already in their excellent 'Bare Facts' magazine but personally I'd find it very helpful if one of the expert doctors could list the vitamins/minerals/supplements that are best avoided (or dosages that are best avoided) for those with PBC.
The other information the doctors could clarify is the correct dosage plus details that are rarely mentioned, such as the best way to take certain vitamins and minerals. For instance, calcium: I remember hearing or reading that certain forms of calcium are better than others, that it is a good idea for menopausal women to take 1000 mg daily, that the body can only process 500mg at a time so it is best to split the dose between morning and evening, that it needs to have a certain amount of magnesium with it.
Yes, if you search hard enough in different places you can find guidelines and information but it would be extremely good to hear it from a liver specialist's point of view specifically for those with PBC. If this already exists somewhere please let me know!
Pbc is a inflammation of bile duct which ultimately destroiese bile duct lead into live cirrhosis. Since tumeric has a strong anti inflammatory property I believe it is more beneficial for us I guess .. I take one table spoon everyday I'm fine so far ..
I have just gone through the part of the PBC Compendium online as I recalled reading through it a few years ago and there was a chapter on alternatives that may or may not be of use in PBC. I'm putting exactly part of the chapter here. I know the PBC Foundation don't mention turmeric there (I used my Control and Find to search) so at the time it wasn't known:-
"Some Complementary Medicines Used in Liver Disease Treatment Herbal Remedies:
Silymarin (milk thistle)
Liquorice Root
Herbal Mixtures:
Compound 861
Compound 3-A
TJ-9 (sho-saiko-to)
S-adenosyl methionine
LIV-52
Chinese Herbal Remedies
There is no doubt that some of these drugs are effective. For example, St John’s Wort has been shown to be effective in the treatment of depression. Many people find that ginger is effective for travel sickness. Milk thistle (silymarin) is used by those with liver disease.
Studies analysing the benefit of silymarin have suggested that the agent is safe and well tolerated but formal evidence of benefit is lacking. Some trials are continuing. S-adenosyl methionine may reduce the itching in some
liver diseases but again the data is not convincing. It should be stressed that the fact an agent (complementary or conventional) has not been shown to be effective in studies, does not mean necessarily that there are no benefits. Some people may benefit or, of course, the agent is ineffective!"
On the subject of calcium, apparently there can be a clash with iron I think it is. Awhile since I read that somewhere and it was an NHS site as I recall.
Interesting but I can't see warnings or cautions on the website so it seems a little one sided. I think to be more sure, I'd definitely speak with one of the PBC foundation advisors or a liver doctor. It may be that it's fine to use with PBC, (in which case I'll start using it again for osteoarthritis) but meanwhile I'm cautious. I don't think there's probably any harm using it in cooking for the odd meal.
Diagnosed with PBC June-2014. Taking Urso since. I do blood tests each 6 weeks, and tried taking turmeric (1-2 teaspoons each morning with black pepper) during one 6 week period. No noticeable difference according to the blood tests compared to other 6 weeks periods. So I stopped taking it.
Hi, I only use turmeric in cooking, if I take the tablets I get a pain in my RHS - that tells me it is working on my bile ducts, I leave well enough alone. Kandiepat
I’ve had pbc for last 15 years and for last 3 years I’ve been taking 2 capsules a day of tumeric and black pepper I’ve not heard anything about it affecting the bile ducts my gp advised me take tumeric after reading some comments on here I don’t know if inshud stop taking them
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