Spider Angioma?

[Koinonia]

Yesterday I discovered what I think have found out to be a Spider Angioma on my face.(I looked on Google images and it matched those on there!!). I have had AIH/PBC with cirrhosis for many years.

Does anyone know if this indicates a worsening of my condition?---I have been feeling rough recently.

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Hello Koinonia.

I am not 100% certain what Spider Angioma is but looked at some images on Google. Apparently it can be significant for someone with compromised liver but I don't think it is any indication of a condition worsening but an indication they are do with a condition. But it might be a question worth posing to a doctor.

I have since my later 20s or early 30s had tiny broken vessels on my nose that can give my nose a red appearance at certain times, especially when I am hot. It has a name but I am not sure if it is due to liver. I was reading that these Spiders that come with various different word ending depending on where they are can be due to hormones. Some appear following pegnancy, that is more than likely in my case.

I suffered from a tiny graze in my nose and up until early this year ENT didn't seem tosort it correctly until this year so it seems as been OK since my last ENT doctor visit. (I had a few catuerisation with the chemical solution.) I think my nose has probably suffered a bit more due to more contact due to the nosebleeds over several years. I know when I saw a different ENT doctor nearly 12mths ago the hospital I went was a private one but they took NHS patients. This doctor mentioned my red 'spiders' on my nose and asked me how long I had. I told him for some time but I wasn't that bothered as I'm not. It's not actually got worse over time, reacts to heat. He said that you can have laser treatment to remove. He knew I had PBC but never mentioned it could have anything to do with this condition as I personally do not thnk it has.

I do have one spider thing on my calf, had it several years and some days it looks prominent, most of the time especially when relaxing with feet up or in bed it's not noticeable at all. I put a lot of things down to the fact I am now 50, not getting any younger and I personally do not think my minor blemishes are of significance as thinking, the hospital doctor who examined me on my first hospital visit beginning Nov 2010 would have said something I am sure as it was hot in the clinic and my nose and face were hot.

[sistergoldenhair]

Hi Koinonia, I have it all over, started when I was stage 3....about 5-6 yrs ago, maybe longer but I didn't really notice or pay attention. It continues to get worse, mostly my chest, face and arms. The veins on my legs are worse too, however I did work an office job and waitress for about 15 years at the same time, I was on my feet alot, and my mom them in her legs. I am in stage 4 now for a couple years w/cirrhosis, and I do not believe that it makes it worse, although I have sort of been stable for about 2years too. I am 56 and in October it will be 19yrs since my diagnosis. thoughts, prayers and smiles..............cyndy

[Koinonia in reply to sistergoldenhair]

Thank you both. My cirrhosis was first discovered in 1997 (16 years ago) but I have no idea how long I had had it before then. I've never asked or been given an idea of which stage it is at. I am 72. I think perhaps I should ask my hep when I see him next!