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Just wanted to thank all the forum members who replied to my plea for help yesterday. Thanks for allaying my fears a bit, and giving me some hope that I might get through this, and not do something silly.

I'm still in a pretty dark place (thanks to B12 deficiency), but as a result of reading your replies I'm one step further away from the precipice.

A special thank you to forum user Gobbozoid, who's had his own hill to climb over the last few months, but still selflessly offered me words of calm reassurance via the chat on here, and then via Facebook Messenger phone call for the best part of an hour. Hope he hasn't broken any forum rules by doing that as I was glad to talk to someone.

It's heartwarming to know that so many people will respond to another person's cry for help.

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wedgewood profile image
wedgewood

So glad that you have been encouraged by the responses Laverdista . That was marvellous that you could get that help from someone who had been to the dark place and come through to the other side . There will always be someone on this marvellous forum to give you a helping hand .

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Technoid

Glad you're starting to feel in a better place. It's a challenging time.

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charks

I had really bad mental problems. I was so paranoid I suspected my loving partner, who has been incredibly supportive, of plotting against me.

I was also so depressed that most days I didn't get dressed - or even comb my hair.

But with B12 I slowly recovered.

Things will get better.

But I found that meditation and exercise also helped - especially walking. Apparently exercise releases endorphins which improves mood and well-being. It works for me.

Please don't go into hospital. They won't give you B12 and you will get even worse very quickly. My GP told me that I had dangerous levels of B12 so I stopped taking it. Within a month my paranoia had returned.

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wedgewood in reply tocharks

It’s just incredible and depressing that some doctors really believe , in 2024 , that you can have “dangerous levels “of B12,! In 2014 my GP told me that injections more often than one in 3 months would be toxic ! Think of the damage that can be caused by these assumptions!

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Gobbozoid

thanks really isn’t necessary. As I say we can talk any time you need to. Hopefully I didn’t break any rules… however I think you benefited from a proper chat so I don’t regret doing it.

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B12again in reply toGobbozoid

How can you break rules when someone receives much needed help. Sadly some groups (not this one) have become rather authoritarian and seem to have lost the caring gene. So glad you’ve received what you needed. 🙂👍

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Ghound in reply toGobbozoid

Thank you so much for personally reaching out to Laverdista !

I've been so preoccupied with family issues recently, that I didn't recognise more support was needed.

Well done for realising that and stepping up 👍

Best wishes xx

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Gobbozoid in reply toGhound

That’s ok happy to help

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Chickens44

Oh my gosh, it’s so hard isn’t it. I’m sure some people would consider me obsessive, but I read the posts and past stories every day, it’s keeps me going, and I’m not suffering the anxiety and depression now like you, but I have been there and it’s indescribable how lost and alone you feel at the time. But you have to keep remembering that you can get through each episode, and the sun will shine again.

I had a couple of bad days, then a couple of good ones, so it’s some sort of progress.

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Laverdista in reply toChickens44

Thanks. 🙂 So (just remind me again, sorry) when did the anxiety and depression lift for you? On your bad days now are the symptoms more physical?

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Chickens44 in reply toLaverdista

Yes, my symptoms are more pain, fatigue, dizziness and just generally feeling rotten. I think possibly once I started taking higher vitamin D as well, my anxiety got better. I still have low moments, but they are nothing like I had previously. The trouble is anxiety breeds anxiety, so the more you worry you’re not going to get through it, the worse it gets. It’s not an easy cycle to get out of. But I found that doing things when I felt a bit better helped, although I often didn’t feel like it. Deep breathing, and relaxation techniques helped.

Just keep posting when you feel bad and the positive messages will help too. x

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Laverdista in reply toChickens44

Thank you. 🙂🤞

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EllaNore

I'm glad people were here for you and they helped get you out of a dark place so you could see a little light. It will get brighter. Hang in there and reach out like you did. People will be here. Some of the members here are tirelessly helpful. I don't know where they get the energy but they are selflessly here all the time like a beacon of light. People like Wedgewood, sleepybunny, technoid, jillymo, and many more...I believe they save lives in their own way. The mental help they offer can be life saving sometimes. Good luck.

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Laverdista in reply toEllaNore

That's very true. I hope that in due course I will be one of those offering help to others. However, one other thing that this experience has made me, is angry! Angry with Doctors who gaslight you, angry at the inconsistencies of treatment, angry at the sheer bloody-minded refusal to look at B12D as a cause of so many issues, angry at the refusal to routinely test B12 and folate levels. If I get out of this relatively unscathed, I'm going to become the world's most vociferous B12 deficiency and PA advocate!

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EllaNore in reply toLaverdista

YES! We are all angry about that! I want to fight too. When I first got this I was so angry and I wanted to scream from the rooftops how dare you lied to us like this and ruin our lives. And I talked to doctors and I handed out flyers and I did whatever I could in my little Community to try to spread the word. Nobody was listening. But one day when this happens to them they will remember. And hopefully it will help them. I don't know how to continue. I feel we need to picket at the hospitals and the medical boards and do whatever we can. what really makes me angry is that people to lose weight can get injectable ozympic and everything they need to lose weight and take it home and inject it but we can inject our B12 to save our lives. and the gas lighting to try to make us feel like there's nothing wrong with this. Believe me some of us have had extremely long Journeys. Mine has been over 40-year Journey. I'm angry that my life is almost gone and I didn't even get to live because of this and now I'm desperately trying to live in this condition. And I won't give up. It's okay to be angry. I think anger is what invokes change. If we all get angry enough maybe we can make a difference

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GalDriver in reply toLaverdista

Go, Laverdista! I tell all medics about my B12 and cannabis oil (legally prescribed) use and how they have helped me many times more than the side-effect ridden allopathic drugs that the profession peddle. My old MS nurse (before we moved) was very interested and passed the info onto others who may benefit. Sadly, not everyone is so open-minded. Do they hand out blinkers at medical school do you think?!

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Laverdista in reply toGalDriver

Yes, I think they do hand out blinkers!

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GreenCardigan in reply toLaverdista

Bless you ! I’m rooting for you ! and fully understand what you’ve been going through ,

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Ghound

No need for thanks, we all support each other.

I'm just glad Gobbozoid recognised you were in greater need and reached out personally !

Never be afraid to ask for help, as often as you need too.

Remember that there is always a way out of darkness

Wishing you a speedy recovery and peace of mind xx

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Laverdista in reply toGhound

Thanks. Another very bad night tonight. This is by far the hardest thing I've had to face in my life. Just hoping I can keep fighting.

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Ghound in reply toLaverdista

It IS hard, very hard, and when you're down you can't believe you'll ever feel better.

But remember this condition is treatable, and although it can take a long time, you will eventeventually feel better.

I have to be honest, it took 6 months to a year with me, and I'm not as fit as I used to be, but maybe that's just ageing ! 😉

I've been very low in dark places, but I'm enjoying life now as long as I pace myself.

You are stronger than you know !!

Just keep going and ask for help when needed

Very best wishe X x

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B12life

I'm not a forum moderator but I'm all for personal contact and calls. This hill is too hard to climb alone and the best support comes from those who have been through this journey and understand it best. Thanks for the appreciation and thanks for having faith in this forum. It has been a treasure to me in my life.

The struggles are real and so is our love, support and hope for you!

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Laverdista in reply toB12life

Thank you so much! 🥹

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