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Hi eveyone.

Until now I have bought my B12 1mg/1ml Depot yearly but now it looks like things have changed. My regular German supplier says they no longer deliver to the UK so I have tried a few others with similar outcomes. It also seems like stock is very limited, if any at all.

Can anybody recommend a supplier willing to deliver to the UK with or without current stock. Luckily I have a few weeks left. I have looked at forum posts but did not see any recent ones regarding supply.

Thank you.

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wedgewood

The following German online pharmacies will deliver B12 depot single use ampoules to U.K. .

apohealth.de. ( in Munich) Site is obtainable in English (Union flag, bottom left on my device ) also deliver World wide.

versandapo.de ( in Leipzig) Site is in German . Use Google chrome to obtain translation . This pharmacy is usually cheaper than apohealth

apotheke-marienbrunn.de ( in Leipzig)

In German . Use Google chrome if you need translation . Also deliver to Australia and New Zealand .

shopapotal.de

When filling out the address form , you will see that the country is already filled in with GERMANY / DEUTSCHLAND . You must first change your country to “ Vereinigtes Königreich Grossbrittanien und Nord Ireland “. UNITED KINGDOM , U.K. VEREINIGTES KÖNIGREICH however expressed .on the drop-down list . Do this so that your post code and then the rest of your address will be accepted , .

Other wise you will be unable to order,! and will start tearing your hair out !!!

Amazon.de also sell Pascoe and Hevert , but you can’t use the pharmaceutical references to order

The following brands are obtainable

Panpharma ( formerly Rotexmedica ) b12 depot 1mg x 1ml ampoule ( depot indicates Hydroxocobalamin) ref no 16199653. This is the most popular ampoule used by PAS members .

It is the best value , but sometimes /often is out of stock . You can then opt to be emailed to be told when it is back in stock .

If the Panpharma b12 depot ( Hydroxocobalamin ) is out of stock , you may like to consider the Panpharma Cynocobalamin . B12 The pharmaceutical reference number is 16199707 .

Cynocobalamin may need to be injected more often .

Pascoe B12 depot 1.5mg x 1ml ampoules- Packet of 10 ref no 07568672

Pascoe b12 depot 1.5 mg x 1ml ampoules-10 packets of 10 ampoules (100)

Ref no 07568695

The Pascoe are much cheaper per packet if you buy the offer of 10packets .If you inject weekly , or more

that would cover you .

But if you inject less frequently, the ampoules may become out of date .

Pascoe Cynocobalamin b12 Reference number is 03262634 for 1 packet (1mg x 1ml)

Pascoe Cynocobalamin B12 Reference number is 03262657 10 packets 100 ampoules ( 1mg x 1ml);

Hevert b12 depot 1mg x2ml ampoules packet of 10

Ref no 06078368

Hevert b12 depot 1mg x 2 ml 10 packets of 10 ampoules- ( 100)

Ref 06078380.

Use the pharmaceutical reference numbers to order , much simpler than using brand names , and then you know you are ordering Hydroxocobalamin, not Cynocobalamin , which the companies also sell . But some patients like Cynocobalamin B12 . It is the B12 of choice in the USA , and cheaper than Hydroxocobalamin It’s just called B12, NOT B12 Depot

When filling out your address form, do fill in your country first of all . “Germany”/ Deutschland : will be displayed , so you must change this with the drop-down list which will appear , — to U.K./ Gross Brittanien/ Vereinigtes Königreich Grossbrittaniens , — how ever it may be expressed. If you don’t do this , your U.K. address and post code will not be accepted , and you will end up in a tizzy . We don’t want that !

PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE FOLLOWING

Also do remember that now the U.K. has left the EU , there is a limit to the value of goods that we are allowed to import, before tax is due on items coming from the EU . Tax is applicable if the value exceeds about £132.00 , but I’m not sure of the figure , so please look it up . On top of that there is a charge of £8.00 made by Royal Mail for processing it. I’m also not sure of how much the tax is . But a member has been shocked by what she had to pay when she ordered over the limit . . So please be aware of this , and check . I believe that even the cost of delivery charge is included in the total . It was when I ordered something from USA .

Very best wishes .

Please also be aware that we need to be glad that the above pharmacies deliver B12 ampoules to U.K. .Because strictly speaking they are not allowed to send any item to a country where that item is prescription only . B12 ampoules are prescription only in U.K. ( but not in Germany ) But I suppose they do this because they know that B12 injections are totally harmless, indeed , life-saving to P.A.patients , unlike many other prescription medications .

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OldmanD in reply towedgewood

I have used several inc Pascoe and Hevert and only had boxes of 100 rather than 10 x 10s. . . .

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wedgewood in reply toOldmanD

Yes , buying the 10 pack halves the price of a pack ! But have you noticed how difficult the 10 pack is to find , if you search by name ? Using the Pharmaceutical Reference Number ( PZN ) takes you straight to the item . (but you can’t use it on Amazon.de )

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LizWilsonpa in reply towedgewood

Wedgewood: what a fantastic reply. Thank you so much. I have kept notes from this site over the years and this is so comprehensive and helpful!

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wedgewood

Panpharma b12 depot ( Hydroxocobalamin) is out of stock at all the German online pharmacies . At the moment. It often happens now . Note that the Pascoe b12 depot comes in a 1mm ampoule and the Hevert in a 2ml ampoule .

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HecticGem in reply towedgewood

Thank you kindly for your very helpful reply Wedgewood.

I wonder if you or anyone else has had experience or problems with the 2ml ampoules over the 1ml ones?

I also wonder if stock shortages happen very often these days, and if so roughly how long they take to restock?

Bodfeld apotheke was my go to for some time but they now they dont appear to have 1mg/1ml Hydroxocobalamin and also refuse to ship B12 to the UK anyway.

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wedgewood

I’ve used all those brands ay some time i. my 10 years of self injecting . All worked well . I prefer to inject I ml

Since the Panpharma became unobtainable I’ve used the Pascoe , which is 1ml but is 50% stronger at 1.5 mg .

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HecticGem in reply towedgewood

Thank you, I will take a look at the 1.5mg. Never too much of a good thing 😀.

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Mixteca in reply toHecticGem

I bought the Pascoe 1.5mg today with no problem.

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OldmanD in reply towedgewood

I'd agree with you again. . . . . 1ml s preferable .. . . . . . Just one thing though. . . . . . 2ml syringes with some suppliers can be cheaper than the 1ml ones .. . . . . The 2ml because of the larger bore size does require more pressure to inject though. . . . . .

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wedgewood in reply toOldmanD

I find that using a 2ml syringe much better with 1ml ampoule Could never extract 100% of the 1ml ampoule contents using 1ml syringe .

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HecticGem in reply towedgewood

I've always used 2ml syringes, I find them easier to hold and push. Wedgewood, may I ask if you felt any noticeable difference between the 1mg and 1.5? I inject once a week and wonder if a stronger solution might mean less injections.

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wedgewood in reply toHecticGem

No , I’ve noticed no difference at all . But now you’ve mentioned it , I should , I suppose, try injecting less often . But it’s so easy to remember once a week !

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Rosydawn

Hi, I too have been waiting for the Panpharma hydroxycobalamin to come back into stock for about three weeks … stressing me out having to change brand ….

But after asking on this forum and Wedgewoods help I am now trialling different brands and it’s going ok so far.

Hevert 2ml was a worry, but it’s all ok. I draw up with 2.5ml syringe and it’s no worse than 1ml once you get your head around it.

I also have a Pascoe to try and ordered some cyano to trial. I will decide which I like best and bulk order if the Panpharma doesn’t come back in the meantime.

Hydroxy is out there …good luck

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HecticGem

Thanks for the replies. I'm doing ok with 3 weeks supply left but I'm open to try anything else. But, a change to 1.5mg or 2ml AND Cynocobalamin might be one step too far 🤯. Hopefully some stock will turn up soon or I wont have a choice.

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LizWilsonpa

Just to add to the replies here - I've ordered today and was shocked about the shipping costs. I compared 3 sites for Pascoe and have given them below.

I started using Pascoe when the Panpharma was no longer available - and then used a mix of both when it came back into stock. I'm going to stick to Pascoe - it really suits me and I feel well! I didn't check availability of Panpharma.

This is my info from today's search and order (sorry I don't know how to find the euro sign on my keyboard so have used E):

apohealth.de/en/products/vi...

109.12 + 22.20 shipping = E131.32

versandapo.de/vitamin-b12-d...

93.99 + shipping 9.99 = E103.98

apotheke-marienbrunn.de/vit...

91.00 +16.90 shipping = E107.90

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