Hypothesis IX

[WIZARD6787]

That the human body only sends discernible signals resulting in symptoms when the cells are extremely deficient of B12.

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This concept comes from many thoughts. Critical thinking is like that.

I have worked with the principle that the human body is capable of adjusting to the environment it is and has experienced. I do not have a clue how this is not obvious to some. I understand that the limits of adjusting, how and why is not knowable and that testing is necessarily done to measure the failure of the body to adjust and then to treat the body to the theoretical mean as the best that can be done with many illnesses.

I only recently came to be able to discern when my body has used up its B12 to any degree that I can measure.

I have always worked on the principle that I can not use up my B12 unless I am under supplementing B12. (I did do a short trial of trying the PRN method and to my satisfaction determined it failed.)

I am still working on the amount and frequency.

Although I quickly injected double or more of B12 thought to be sufficient it was not until 9 months ago after much study which includes evaluation of experts opinions did it come to me that no experts have any opinion on treating other than EOD other that it takes time, the length of time is not known, and EOD may prevent further damage. And that their opinion and the knowledge base is only based on EOD and the presumed normal body methodology.

At one time pernicious anemia was fatal. At that time the experts would inform the patient that it is fatal and there is nothing to be done but die. Now the patient is informed it takes time, the length of time is not known, and there may be little or no improvement. And all there is to do is suffer. An advance from it being fatal.

Note on virtue: Be patient as a solution is nothing more than seeing that particular virtue as being the overriding virtue to be applied and more of a preference than a conclusion. The “it takes time” is intrinsic and I always evaluate a particular protocol.

I made the error of thinking in terms of that once I was symptom free utilizing the symptoms decreed as the only important experiences with regards to be 12 deficiency I had done all that could be done . I made further error in that I felt I was symptom free when in fact I was only free of what was for me obvious symptoms.

My most recent focus as in the last few days other than getting through the winter without crashing is to self-treat the damage to my neurological system and that my body does not send overt signals due to my body's ability and can only be discerned by improvement in protocol.

I will stay away from methods thought to be true to increase my “well being” as they are to myopic to be valuable to me. That being said I will utilize the what works method which I use when deciding if I want to continue with what I am currently doing. Lucky for me I have done much work on mitigating my B12 deficiency my whole life and it seems more and more those experiences are helpful in choosing what to try. That changes as I continue my healing path.

Pretty much I do not know how I will like what I experience in the future as my body only tells me about severe symptoms. As I continue appropriate self-treatment my body can tell me that is better.

No idea what the ceiling is. I have a much better idea how to find it.

[Schpsych2414]

Thank you for continuously sharing your journey. I’m still trying to figure out the best frequency. I supplement in between my monthly from the heme doc. It really feels like I need to inject IM ED for right now. I get intense depression symptoms which I wrote about before on my last post.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Schpsych2414]

Thank you for your reply. I often wonder if my posts are inappropriate for here as they are so esoteric.

I do share that this is very difficult.

[ACritical]

Like I tell people, the treatment by injecting regularly will not give you everlasting life, it hopefully makes you go on a bit longer feeling more comfortable. I am forever readjusting my treatment schedule. And this in itself proves for me there is no specific treatment to suit all, making it so hard for GP’s to treat B12 deficiency. I am sure it’s the same for other health conditions. So it’s up to all of us to research and manage ourselves.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to ACritical]

I keep improving my regiment and heal more and therefore feel better. Although I still read whatever can I can get my hands on, I read everything now as written by people that can't treat B12 deficiency successfully. I'm not really interested in following the experts that fail.

I will keep improving and not consider managing until I stop improving. Hopefully I will never have to manage.

[ACritical in reply to WIZARD6787]

I wish you the wisdom and tenacity for this and please keep posting. All the best for 2024

[MorningMist in reply to ACritical]

I agree with you but despite it being hard for gps to evaluate and treat it is anathema to most of them to condone our self management. I find myself thinking that they are unconcerned with quality of life and that it is none of their business.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to MorningMist]

I agree with you. It's none of their business. In the US their business is giving the minimum amount of care. They want to be seen as healers and many people seem to believe they are and I find that to be in unrealistic expectation leading to angst.

[GoneWithTheWind1972]

I value all your posts, they’re very informative and helpful to my healing. Please continue doing so. You make more sense than some so called experts in B12.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to GoneWithTheWind1972]

Well great minds think alike. Then again so do not so great minds 🙄

[Hockey_player]

I wish some of the experts on B12 would experiment like the WIZARD is doing but on a large population base to determine the ranges of supplementation that people need. He makes an excellent point- by the time we notice symptoms, it is likely we have been short on B12 for a long time. It would be nice to have some sort of test (maybe a blood test or something) for the experiment so that too low amounts could be perceived before they start causing symptoms. I like how WIZARD has taken his own health care into his hands and is searching for what his body needs. I suspect he needs more B12 than some of us because of the bad state he was in before the problem was determine. Best wishes to you WIZARD for a happy and healthy new year!

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Hockey_player]

It's not the experiments that I do. Rather my creativity, imagination and critical thinking in deciding what trial to do. That is what makes the difference! If all it took was experimentation someone else would have done it.

In fact their methodology and training precludes finding the solutions that I do.

>> I suspect he needs more B12 than some of us because of the bad state he was in before the problem was determine.

You did not comprehend my hopothesis it was not about more. That would be doing what is thought to be true better. It is about frequency and not letting the body be without B12 by increasing the frequency. NOT more.

[Hockey_player in reply to WIZARD6787]

I am an emeritus professor and have spent my whole life doing research (in math, computer science and chemistry). Creativity, imagination and critical thinking are exactly the skills that excellent researchers have! But trials need to be done on a larger population to make more global conclusions from them. It would be really nice to see someone with a research position taking on some of the questions you are addressing.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Hockey_player]

A creative professor? In the seven colleges and universities I have attended I have met 2. Met many that believe they are when in fact they are academically gifted which is not related to creativity although they are not mutually exclusive.

[MorningMist in reply to Hockey_player]

One of the problems is that some people are ok on relatively low b12 levels and others require much more. So determining too low amounts is not straightforward.

Pregnancy and the contraceptive pill can lower amounts of the b12 transporter protein and result in low blood levels, while the active b12 remains unaffected.

[ACritical in reply to Hockey_player]

That’s exactly what many of us now do. Managing ourselves, trying different ways. Always with quality of life in mind.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to ACritical]

Hey ACritical,

If you do not mind taking the time what have you done that eliminated symptoms associated with B12 and how long did it take?