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I discovered last night I made an error in the amount of methylcobalamin I was injecting. The methylcobalamin I inject comes in a vial l dry and I add saline. I made an error in concentration The amount of powder in the vial is 40 mg and I add 10 mg of saline which equals 4 mg per 1 mil. My error was that I thought it was 1 mg per ml.

I apologize for posting incorrect information.

I did a 30 day+- trial of adding methylcobalamin, 6 mg of SL adenasolcobalamin injecting more often and injecting no less than 3 hours apart and as my schedule allows. It worked out to most often three times a day a few times two and twice 5. Each injection when I started was 1 ml of Methylcobalamin and 1 ml of Hydroxocabalamin. On days of two injections this was actually 10 mg of B12. On days of three injections this was 15 mg and days of 5 injections this was 25 mg.

I accept that there is no known toxity of B12. I do not accept that what happens when more than 1 mg of B12 EOD positive or negative is known or even part of any medical research that I have read. I do accept that B12 is synthesized in 25 steps that are known and there may be an issue with any of them. Which I conclude is most likely why we are all different. Then there is the reality that everyone's body may use B12 differently once the B12 is synthesized.

So I am going to inject .25 ml/1 mg methylcobalamin no less than three hours apart up to 5 times a day as my schedule allows and regroup. Keeping all other supplements the same.

The trial was positive and I will likely post in comments on this post what my evaluation was prior to knowing my error and now that I am aware of my error.

I wanted to correct the information as quickly as possible.

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Wwwdot profile image
Wwwdot

Oh Wiz!

So 4 eyes of newt! 😂

🤗🤗🤗

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jade_s in reply to Wwwdot

4 eyes of newt 🤭🤣🤣🤣

25 mg - that's more than even *I* have tried 😂 But the same as those ALS patients.

Big difference! Curious to see what happens back on 1 mg ... hopefully all goes well 🙏

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FlipperTD in reply to Wwwdot

Take care with the 'Root of hemlock'...

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FlipperTD in reply to FlipperTD

Oh, don't forget if you do want the hemlock root, it should be 'digged I' the dark'. Just saying.

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WIZARD6787 in reply to FlipperTD

All of the plant is poison the leaves more so in the spring.

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Nackapan

My goodness. Sounds alot of writing up and alot of b12.

Out of interest do you pee alot as excess is got rid of this way .??

Hope you settle on a regime soon.

I used to make copius notes.

Still no patterns emerged .

No rhyme or reason at times .

I just don't change a thing now and plod on .

Just to add I got significant improvements after 31/2 years.

A definite shift.

The improvements so subtle and slow looking back a year at my notes very helpful.

What we're you unable to do say a year ago and now can?

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WIZARD6787 in reply to Nackapan

>>Out of interest do you pee a lot as excess is got rid of this way .??

I used to pee a lot more than normal. With this trial my pee returned to normal. Guessing the more peeing was a neurological symptom. I go with that the increase of urination I experienced was not specifically peeing out cobalamin/B12. I do allow that as I take more B12 that there would be an increase in B12 measured in my urine and this does not correlate to an increase in volume.

>>What we're you unable to do say a year ago and now can?

--I can now swim close to twice as far as this time last year. I am at 3/8 of a mile. I swim that distance strong and do not lose my form from tiredness. I do need to rest the day after. It is not like this time last year as I do not need three days of intense recovery.

--I can remember words most of the time. Sometimes if I am tired in the evening it is harder to do.

--I have more energy and things take less energy to do.

--I used to have to plan some tasks in the morning when I was"fresh" now I can do them most of the time. It may take more effort as the day goes on. I can still do them.

When the pain was not the main symptom after I increased my injections after 1 year 3 months I have morphed into evaluating improvement based on energy levels through out the day for the most part.

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WIZARD6787

OK, evaluation of my last 30 day trial.

For me there has been no new symptoms in my life. It is a matter of frequency and the symptoms became more acute as my life progressed.

I spent 1 year 3 months thinking I was experiencing "reversing out" when what was happening was I was using up my B12 aka not administering enough B12. Pretty much I gained much experience and knowledge in the first 1 year 3 months. Everything changed 5 months ago.

I thought that injecting the methylcobalamin with SL adenosylcobalamin might be a major improvement. I was still injecting hydroxocobalamin. I was unaware that I was injecting so much.

Due to spilling a full vial of methylcobalamin I substituted more hydroxocobalamin and there was a noticeable downturn for 3 days and I recovered in three days. Leading more credence to that the methylcobalamin was better for me.

Then some symptoms felt like they were wanting to return and I needed a lot of sleep including naps. I did wake up more refreshed and thought that the sleep was productive and a result of reversing out.

I had also made the change to injecting more often. I injected not less than three hours apart and a max of 5.

I did a test of not injecting after 5 pm to see how that affected my sleep. That was not a good idea although it may be later as I continue to heal. I am very aware that my body is changing and what was true before may not be now.

I have accepted the only way to evaluate is to do a trial and then subtract or reduce and see what happens. That sucks. It is the only way I know of.

I noticed that although my methodology was inject as my schedule allows I may have without knowing it limited my injections to lessen the reversing out.

I at one time went over my notes and it seemed that I did best during overlaps in timing of trials and concluded that it may have been from having more forms of B12 in my body and that may be correct. I also noticed that methylcobalamin with adenosylcobalamin may have been the cause.

So I am starting a trial of 1mg of methylcobalamin 5 times a day with 6mg of adenosylcobalamin SL. I did that yesterday and am going to start timing the trial as Aug 08 2023 to allow for a couple of days for the hydroxocobalamin to leave my body.

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WIZARD6787

OK, After three days of not injecting hydroxocobalamin and injecting 1 mg methylcobalamin 4 times a day I now see my trial as positive even with the high amounts of Methylcobalamin. I am on a downslide. Hoping it is exhaustion and not fatigue coming back.

Unfortunately the cost of continuing that regiment is not sustainable. I ignored the cost and still have not calculated it. $1000.00 a month I am guessing.

I ran out of hydroxocobalamin and am going to use cyanocobalamin which is much cheaper in the USA. Not what I want to do but financial realities do matter.

Looking back the amounts I was taking may have caused healing too quickly and that was somewhat disruptive.

Ironic I think I know what works and can't afford it.

I will work on the sourcing and costs as soon as I am able. I can drive to Canada in 8 hours and will fly to another country if that works. That part of my brain is not working.

I am not discouraged. Just worn out.

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jade_s in reply to WIZARD6787

Where are you getting the methyl from? $1000 doesn't sound right unless you are getting it from the really expensive israeli site. Do you have/want our source list?

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WIZARD6787

Yes please. That is for all the supplements, not just the methyl. I'll post the complete cost once I rest and configure it out.

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