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B12 injections from Germany

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Hi,, i have just gone to re order from Versandapo the Vitamin B12 Depot Rotexmedica injections and they are currently unavailable. Can i purchase anywhere else?

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Has anyone bought or used Pascoe B12 from apotal.de ?

Thrones12 profile image
Thrones12 in reply to

hi there. I’ve self injected a few years now with the usual b12 depot and decided to try the Pascoe b12 due to supply issues like everyone else.

I got them delivered four days from order.The ampoules are slightly bigger 1500 instead of the usual 1000 so I was a bit apprehensive but needent have worried,I did my shot last night and I had so much more liquid in my syringe than I usually would and had no problems whatsoever. They also fitted in my ampoule cutter so altogether win win for me.Use by date was March 2024.

I’m happily converted now and will be relieved to be able to reduce frequency of injecting so I don’t regret the change at all.

Best of luck I’d say go ahead and order while you can.😉

in reply toThrones12

Just as I was setting up my paypal account and trying to check out etc, the item came up as sold out... I can't believe it! Thanks for your kind response anyway

Thrones12 profile image
Thrones12 in reply to

are you putting in search box vitb12 depot? I’ve just tried it and it’s showing stock I have it in my basket.

in reply toThrones12

Hi, yes oddly it has now appeared again... fingers crossed it's on it's way to me...

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Thrones12 in reply to

well done x

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wedgewood in reply toThrones12

The ampoules are 1ml - the same as Panpharma, but contain 50% more Hydroxocobalamin.

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Is that a good thing? maybe won't need injections so often. I have purchased 2 x 10 boxes, for me and my daughter, and hope they have a long sell by date.

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wedgewood in reply to

I really don’t think that the extra dosage will mean that you need to inject less often . The NHS would give higher dosage injections if that were the case . They try to cut down on nurses services .

If fresh from the manufacturer, the use-by date will be at least 2 years . Otherwise about a year .

It’s worth trying out injecting less often. Best wishes .

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mountainice in reply toThrones12

I haven't been able to pull the whole amount up, is it because I am using a 2ml syringe, I thought it would be big enough.

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Thrones12 in reply tomountainice

I use the same size syringe and I open with my ampoule cutter prop it between my knees slightly tilted so I can get it all out and that worked fine for me.just be careful as it does tend to all sit up near the lid end so tap it down into the ampoule before you open it.x

in reply toThrones12

To open ampoules I use an empty syringe cartridge to snap of the top and then empty the glass tip into the sharps bin ( I learnt this tip on here) I didn't get on with ampoule cutter.

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Thrones12 in reply to

that’s good,it’s down to whatever works for you. I can’t open without ampoule cutter. I also use filter needles to draw up the liquid,there’s various opinions on this I just feel happier doing things my way.x

in reply toThrones12

What type of cutter do you use, and where did you buy it ?

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Thrones12 in reply to

I got mines from Amazon . type in Safe Snap Ampoule opener £4.99 is costs, ive been using mines for 3 years now and it’s still going strong.

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Bellabab in reply to

I do the same as I could see no advantage from the commercial ampoule snapper and I am also tight.

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mountainice in reply toThrones12

I have used them three times now. I always tap down thanks. I too use an ampoule snapper. I now inject air first into the liquid, as per someone's instructions on here and that helped me get all the one ml out, but it's not working for this new size

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Thrones12 in reply tomountainice

not heard that one before. Do what’s best for you I’m happy with what I got out of it this week,it seemed much more than usual so maybe I wasn’t getting all the liquid out of previous ampoules I will be more vigilant in future,I do rush it because I want it over with.

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Midnight_Voice in reply tomountainice

There’s still only 1ml in a Pascoe ampoule, though there are 1500 micrograms of hydroxycobalamin instead of the 1000 in Depot.

if you can’t get it all up, then are you using too short a withdrawing needle?

mountainice profile image
mountainice in reply toMidnight_Voice

Oops. Just looked on the ampoule and it's B12 Depot. Using the same needle as always. I use 1.5" to draw up and 1" to inject.

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Libuse in reply to

yes I bought them from Versandepo. No difference that I can see

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Thrones12

I didn’t use PayPal I just used my debit card.

wedgewood profile image
wedgewood

Rotexmedica sold out to Panpharma more than 2 years ago . But Panpharma ( French Company) seem to have stopped supplying all German pharmacies ! Pascoe have 50% more Hydroxocobalamin content than Panpharma , 1.5. but is a 1ml ampoule. A good substitute, but much more expensive .

in reply towedgewood

I have managed to place an order, hopefully on it's way soon. I've ordered this...

shop.apotal.de/vitamin-b12-...

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wedgewood in reply to

Glad you got them . I’m using them instead of Panpharma ,,which is now unobtainable . I just hit back from Germany . I asked at 4 different pharmacies why Panpharma is unobtainable , but they had no idea !

At high street pharmacies in Germany , you pay the recommended retail price -Online there is always a discount .

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Wawacito

Apolux has B12 by Pascoe and is shipping to the UK. The Pascoe B12 is currently available and ships within 4-5 days.

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Beccy_123 in reply toWawacito

Hi, how do you order these? It doesnt seem to be available for post to UK?..

in reply toBeccy_123

I used Apotal yesterday, for the first time. A lot of huffing & puffin and use of google translate and I got my order confirmed, probably paid more than normal, just desperate to get some B12 (Hydro) . This is a translated copy of my order confirmation

Order number 55957578

Back to overview

The following data was sent to us to process your order:

Date 01/10/2023 13:32

address data

Billing Information:

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Shipping information:

Teresa

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

payment information

You have chosen a credit card .

Order Product

VITAMIN B12 DEPOT Inj. 1500 µg solution for injection

Pascoe pharmaceutical preparations GmbH

07568672

x2 Our price: **

€19.26

Total price: *

€38.52

Total:

€38.52

Shipping:

€19.90

Total

(incl. VAT):

€58.42

in reply toBeccy_123

link to the page I ordered from: shop.apotal.de/vitamin-b12-...

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Beccy_123 in reply to

Thank you, I normally get Panpharma and failed to be able to register at other pharmacies for the Pascoe alternative... PayPal failed but I managed to check out as a guest and use a card to pay. It is a worry... Phew!

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Wawacito in reply toBeccy_123

Apolux is shipping to the UK. At the bottom of the website it says "Versand", click and scroll down to find the entry for Great Britain. :-)

Beccy_123 profile image
Beccy_123 in reply toWawacito

yes, as reported, I managed to check out as a guest, but it wouldnt accept PayPal for some unknown reason.

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Peder1962

No - they are out of stock everywhere - unknown reason.

medipreis.de/preisvergleich...

The availability is low for b12 ampulls now in general. I would order this instead:

medipreis.de/preisvergleich...

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Orchard33

Have just received my Pascoe 1500 Hydroxoc. from Amazon. de on time. Expiry the end of this year. Freight cost very low counteracting the cost of the B12. Very relieved it's worked so well. Now for the self- injecting. My first time!!

in reply toOrchard33

Thank you. Good luck. I learnt lots of tips on here and been self injecting for 2 years now.

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Orchard33 in reply to

Thanks. Very encouraging to know others are successfully self-inject ing.

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Treesong2023 in reply toOrchard33

Hello, Orchard33 - can you tell me whether there is a switchover to Amazon.de in your Uk account? Or do you have to register / login into the .de site? Many Thanks !

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Orchard33 in reply toTreesong2023

I think I put Amazon. de into a search and got the website. Downloaded onto Home Page. Then search and order.

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Midnight_Voice

Just got Pascoe via Amazon.de. The ampoules are pretty much the same size as the Depot was, still 1 ml of liquid, so fills the syringe to exactly the same extent as before - no more to push in! - but 50% more active ingredient.

First shot given - all good so far!

[Edited as per reply from Bellabab below]

Bellabab profile image
Bellabab in reply toMidnight_Voice

Its one millilitre = 1 ml of liquid and 1000 ml would be a German beer glass full = one litre.

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Midnight_Voice in reply toBellabab

Quite right! Duly edited accordingly - thanks.

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