Sleep and B12

[Rexz]

Thought I would pose this question. Does anyone else find that the evening after they inject B12 they sleep better?

I have a terrible time sleeping. I will go several nights with maybe 1 or 2 hours of sleep. Then I will get a night of 10 to 12 hours of wonderful sleep! But I just realized these lengthy sleep nights may coincide with the day I self inject my B12 which is anywhere from every four days to a week. I have started keeping a sleep and B12 log so I can check this but thought I'd ask if anyone else has experienced this.

Hope you are all doing well, Rex

[Hidden]

100%...... restful sleep.

[Rexz in reply to Hidden]

Oh I'm so jealous! : )

[Hidden in reply to Rexz]

My hubby slept for 3 days after his 1st Injection.Waking up for a bit of food etc. (Peace for a few hours)

The only thing I can suggest is have a small piece of cheese before bedtime as see how you get on with that.

😀😜

[Rexz in reply to Hidden]

Lol, you sound like you're trying to catch a mouse!!!

I will give that a try but first I am going to stay the course and just see from my logging if this good sleep really does correlate to my injections.

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

I like your suggestion very much! I love cheese. Will try to keep to SMALL 😂

[Narwhal10]

Hi Rexz,

I am so sorry to hear, sleep is so needed.

I inject EOD or every day depending but I had not realised I needed to fall asleep to television until I read this. (Thanks Rogergee).

healthunlocked.com/pasoc/po...

I’ve worn a Fitbit for several years and around the time I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, I had Restless Leg Syndrome which is exhausting. I’d do at least 3,000 steps in my sleep. 💃🏾

Also when overtired (done too much) my hypnic jerks are notable - between 10 to 15. It is the shudder as you are falling asleep. Also around the fibromyalgia diagnosis, they were 50 to 60 a night !!! 😵‍💫

One or two hours sleep is rubbish. It maybe worth upping frequency to see effect on sleep.

Sending my best as always 🐳😁

[Rexz in reply to Narwhal10]

You know, that's great insight. I'm am going to try every other day injections and see how that plays. Thank you.

[Rexz in reply to Narwhal10]

And thank you for the Rogergee post on B12 maybe masking noise. Fascinating and may be my problem. Now that I think about it I tend to leave the TV on between injections. Is sort of funny as I have the same issue with my family coming by and turning it off then I'll come by and turn it on. And nobody is watching it! So must be something to that what Rogergee says in that post.

[Hidden in reply to Narwhal10]

For years I was asking people about my burning, restless legs at night. Went to GP who took loads of tests, no answers. I finally found a hormone specialist in Holland to realise that my burning feet and restless legs are a B12 deficiency. Even already after only 6 weeks of 2 x 1,000mg injections a week, the worst of the jangly, restless legs has passed. This used to really mess-up my sleep which has always been pretty awful anyway. I've actually contacted my Dutch doctor recently to ask if I can now increase the injections to 3 times a week. It'll be interesting to see if my sleep continues to improve.

[pvanderaa]

I alternate B12 injection sites and find that, on the night after a new injection, when I roll over in bed, it’s the prior injection site that is painful. That disrupts my sleep occasionally.

I also supplement with methyl sublinguals and take 2x 5000 mcg as was 2x 400 mcg Folic Acid at bedtime. Initially, I thought it was making me overactive in bed, but I actually realized that I was sleeping better.

I think that my dream state of sleep is improved and is able to better resolve issues from the day that the brain needed to work on. When I’m in a fog, I don’t sleep better because it takes longer for the brain to work through the issues of the day.

[Hypopotamus]

When doing any injection, rub the site of injection firmly to distribute what you have injected. Otherwise the injected liquid apparently remains in a 'pool' and that's what causes the discomfort. I never have any 'afters' from my injections.

[mcg-woo]

Yes, I too have noticed how well I sleep following a B12 injection. It’s not your imagination or just a coincidence. I think this effect is especially noticeable towards the beginning of treatment when insomnia seems to be more common. After some time into treatment it has been less noticeable to me I think because my insomnia has drastically improved as a result of consistent b12 treatment. B12 is important to the synthesis of melatonin—otherwise known as the sleep hormone, so it makes sense that it would help improve sleep. Melatonin controls the sleep-wake cycle.

[Rexz in reply to mcg-woo]

Thank you. I had no idea about the B12 and melatonin. Always something to learn about this thing. I have been injecting for two years though but my sleep has been messed up for that whole time and prior a bit prior to my PA diagnosis. That's how slow I am as it only took me two years to correlate this... 🤪

[MoKayD]

Try taking a calcium/magnesium supplement before going to bed. This really helps with my insomnia. I'll usually sleep for about 5 and a half hours before I have to get up to go to the bathroom at which time I'll take another calcium/magnesium. I crawl back into bed and drift off for another couple of hours.

[Rexz in reply to MoKayD]

Thank you MoKayD, I do take Magnesium, Melatonin, and also a low dose Progesterone (I call it my girl pill) I guess guys need progesterone also just in smaller amounts...who knew! But my doctor is trying to dial-in this sleep thing. But I will try maybe taking a second magnesium and see if that helps along with Sallyanni's suggestion on cheese before bed. For now though I think I am just going to keep everything the same and log my B12 injections and sleep cycles to see if they actually do correlate then I'll take to my doctor. After that I will do the more mag and cheese. How romantic...instead of wine and cheese and can ask my wife if she'd like to share in some mag and cheese! 🤣

[MoKayD in reply to Rexz]

A magnesium supplement doesn't really work for me only the combination calcium/magnesium supplements seem to make me sleepy. I think I read somewhere that the magnesium and calcium work better together.

[Rexz in reply to MoKayD]

Ah OK, I do not currently take calcium. I will look into that.

Thanks, Rex