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I’m 41 year old male with a Parkinson’s dx. Dx 3.5 years ago. I think I have PD and/or PA. Positive DatScan (PD test) but was on a massive dose of Celexa that can cause false positive. No response to any PD drugs. Been doing the Coimbra Protocol for 3 years (High dose Vitamin D for autoimmune disease) for 3 years. 0 progression for PD. I’m 100 percent Scandinavian which commonly have a problem with absorbing B12. I went to Mexico and got some B12 shots. After weekly injections I started feeling good but was on another thing that hurt my kidneys. I thought the it was the B12 that hurt my kidneys so I stopped. I checked my b12 right after the shots and it was off the charts high. 6 months later it was right at 300. That’s seems really fast to lose that much. My homocysteine was also high even though by trial and error I took supplements that lower it (B6, NAC, Zinc etc) not even knowing what it (homocysteine)was when I started.

My walk is more like Sub Acute Degeneration than Parkinson’s. It’s my worst symptom. After supplementing for about 5 weeks, my previous anxiety is gone, my walk is a little better but much easier to walk, I can type again, I feel so much better.

Do I have PA? How much of my problems can be attributed to B12? I heard it can take a year to heal?

Thanks

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Check this websiteb12deficiency.info/signs-an...

It gives you a good start regarding B12 deficiency and PA. These are two different in cause of deficiency.

Sleepybunny post mostly gives you good links regarding B12 deficiency.

But if you can absorb orally then takecsliq release B12 in high dose along with injection. There is no overdose for B12 and it doesn't give hardship to kidneys as it's water soluble, but remember loading dose (injection) is required for most people as it helps B12 reach out every cell cytoplasm even those have problem in receiving it but slow release high dose B12 ( methylcobalamine) helps alot too specially in raising tolerance for injection.

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Sleepybunny

Hi,

Some other B12 links that might be of interest.

Some links may have details that could be upsetting.

I am not medically trained just someone who spent years suffering unrecognised B12 deficiency.

I'm in UK so hopefully you can access these articles.

Symptoms of B12 Deficiency (folate deficiency also mentioned)

pernicious-anaemia-society....

b12deficiency.info/signs-an...

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

b12-institute.nl/en/symptom... (B12 Institute Netherlands)

Symptoms of Peripheral Neuropathy (damage to peripheral nerves)

nhs.uk/conditions/periphera...

Peripheral neuropathy can be associated with B12 deficiency and sometimes with folate deficiency.

Neurological Consequences of B12 Deficiency

PAS news item

pernicious-anaemia-society....

PAS article about SACD, sub acute combined degeneration of the spinal cord

pernicious-anaemia-society....

Blog post from Martyn Hooper's blog about PA, mentions SACD

martynhooper.com/2010/09/21...

Risk Factors for PA and B12 Deficiency

pernicious-anaemia-society....

b12deficiency.info/what-are...

b12deficiency.info/who-is-a...

Next link about causes of B12 deficiency is from a Dutch B12 website

b12-institute.nl/en/causes-...

PAS (Pernicious Anaemia Society)

Based in Wales, UK. Has some members in other countries.

pernicious-anaemia-society....

There is a helpline number that PAS members can ring.

B12 Deficiency Info website

b12deficiency.info/

B12 Awareness (US website)

b12awareness.org/

US link about PA

rarediseases.org/rare-disea...

Stichting B12 Tekort (Dutch website with English articles)

stichtingb12tekort.nl/weten...

Misdiagnosis of B12 deficiency as other conditions

b12deficiency.info/misdiagn...

B12 books I found useful

"What You Need to Know About Pernicious Anaemia and B12 Deficiency" by Martyn Hooper

Martyn Hooper is the chair of PAS (Pernicious Anaemia Society).

"Could it Be B12?: An Epidemic of Misdiagnoses" by Sally Pacholok and JJ. Stuart (US authors)

Very comprehensive with lots of case studies.

I think Parkinsons disease is mentioned in the above book.

This is a link to a conference that Sally Pacholok, author of above book, gave some years ago in US about B12 deficiency.

antiageingconference.com/pp...

US article about PA

nhlbi.nih.gov/health-topics...

Above article uses the term Pernicious Anemia for B12 deficiency from all causes.

Article from Wall Street Journal about B12 deficiency

wsj.com/articles/vitamin-b-...

Films and videos about PA and B12 deficiency

PAS conferences

pernicious-anaemia-society....

Films about B12 deficiency

b12deficiency.info/films/

Misconceptions (wrong ideas) about B12 deficiency

B12 article from Mayo Clinic in US

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Table 1 in above article is about frequent misconceptions about B12 deficiency that health professionals may have.

Misconceptions about a B12 deficiency

(From Dutch B12 website - units, ref ranges, treatment patterns may vary from UK)

stichtingb12tekort.nl/engli...

UK blog post that mentions misconceptions about B12 deficiency

b12deficiency.info/a-b12-se...

Diagnosis and Treatment Pitfalls(From B12 Institute in Netherlands - units, ref ranges, treatment patterns may vary from UK)

b12-institute.nl/en/diagnos...

I hope you get the treatment you need.

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38yroldmale in reply toSleepybunny

Wow, thanks for all the info. Your very kind.

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charks

I am not medically trained but I have some interest in PD as a family member has it. Apparently B12 levels decline over the course of PD.

michaeljfox.org/grant/relat...

The whole subject is a bit of a grey area. But some clinical studies show that B12 shots help with PD. Which makes sense if PD lower B12 levels.

And of course PD is misdiagnosed 30% of the time. The main symptom that consultants used to diagnose PD is essential tremors. Are your tremors gradually stopping?

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38yroldmale in reply tocharks

I never have had a tremor. Symptoms in order of severity 1. Gait (slowing improving w/b12) 2. Anxiety (gone with B12) 3. Depression (almost gone with B12) 4. Fine motor skills (improving with B12) Thanks for your input.

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Sleepybunny in reply to38yroldmale

All the symptoms you mention can be associated with B12 deficiency.

I hope that B12 treatment will help whether it's PD, PA or both.

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charks in reply to38yroldmale

Well I had all those symptoms. Lucky I didn't go to your GP. Would have frightened me to death.

Seriously though. I understand that one of PD primary symptom is tremors. It will be interesting to see how much you heal with B12.

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