Danish shots anyone???

[Raven321]

Hi guys I'm still searching for the Danish b12 injections. There suppose to be better. If anyone knows were to get them from please let me know.

Thanks in advance

[Slosh]

I don't know - but I am also very interested - would seem from what I heard from conference talks that they last longer and are slow release because the B12 is in oil.

[Raven321 in reply to Slosh]

Yes that's what I heard at the conference too. Let's hope someone knows and tells us. Fingers crossed 👍

[PAS-admin Partner]

From the article that Dr Rietsema was referring to (a case study, so based on one person, but with the drug-info from the Danish promedicin):

"InDenmarkBetolvex(cyanocobalamin)andVibeden(hydroxocobalamin)arecommonly

usedtotreatvitaminB12deficiency.ForBetolvexitisrecommendedtostartwithfour

loadingdosesof1mg,at1-2weekintervals,then oneinjection everythreemonths.For

Vibeden the loadingisfivetimesa1 mgdose,then one1mg every2-3months[1,2].For

malabsorptionof vitaminB12,maintenancetreatmentshouldcontinue lifelong. "

"WeknowthatvariousvitaminB12preparationshaveadifferentbiochemicalandclinical

response,eventhoughthecontentoftheactivesubstanceisthesame.Thisisdueto

differencesintheliquidthevitaminisdissolvedin.Asarule,cyanocobalamininaqueous

solutioniseliminatedfastest (Cytobion),hydroxocobalamininaqueoussolutionmoreslowly

(Vibeden),while cyanocobalamininoilysuspensionhasalong-termtreatmentresponse

(Betolvex)"

pro.medicin.dk/Medicin/Prae...

[rusholme]

At the conference I asked what was meant by 'depot' form of B12, which was mentioned by one of the speakers. Unfortunately, I can't remember the reply and didn't write it down as I thought I would remember (foolish).

Googling 'Depot' form of B12, which is the one I get from Germany, one of the results was an article which included:

"When the vitamin was given in depot form its retention was increased two or three times but the clinical effect of these

preparations does not seem to have been investigated"

........ taken from 'sciencedirect.com/science/a....

I looked on the leaflet (in German) in my box of 'depot' ampoules but, after google translation of the German, I think it says 'Water for injection solution'.

I came away from the conference with the impression that B12 in 'oil' was slow release - very possibly I am wrong. There was so much information given that day. I am waiting for the videos to be uploaded but I know it may be a while as all done by volunteers (many thanks to the volunteers).