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I would not want to be a GP for all the money in the world

It must be difficult to have us all moaning about our ailments.

How many happy moments do GPs have in a day

It no wonder that Doctors don't want to be GPs now

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A GP friend of mine actually gave up because the daily stress of abusive, aggressive patients wanting an instant miracle cure became to much, very sad because she was an amazingly good Dr who worked more hours than she needed to doing out of hours and hospital shifts. Yes they earn good money but they work for it.

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Totally agree with bantam12...and then there are those patients who spend all their time googling their symptoms. Turn up in surgery supposedly knowing what they have.

GPs have spent years training. No wonder they get cross and frustrated.

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.... and then there are the GPs who choose to do locum work because they like better hours and less responsibility.

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Sorry I found your post very confrontational.

If you have a specific problem with your own GP then take it up with your surgery..

This is a forum where we give help, advice and a cuddle when needed.

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I do not have a problem with my GP. He is supportive and professional. I make a point of never seeing a locum GP.

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And don't we need locums ? GPs get sick too. I have had some very good consultations with locums who give it their all just life the permanent GPs.

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I have never had s good consultation with a Locum.

Perhaps the luck of the draw.

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Those of us with unresolved thyroid disease know just how much we rely on information from a wide variety of sources to improve our health.

Yes - the Internet is one of these as are forums such as these.

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There is a Thyroid forum. Maybe that would be more helpful to you

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I am a member and it certainly is.

Members are realistic about the lack of knowledge and interest from some GPs about the nature and treatment of thyroid disease.

GPs deserve our respect. However sycophantic dismissal of their shortcomings is helpful to no one.

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I disagree with you that they deserve our respect.To me respect is something you earn not just get.These doctors today know or should know what they are getting themselves into before they able to become a doctor in the first place.If they figure they can not do it then do not become a doctor.My experience with doctors today is you are a number and a means to money.They wipe you in and out of their office not giving you the proper time and attention you need and deserve.There is good and bad with ALL people.

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People are people we all all try our best and our best is good enough. When we go to work we all want to be valued and it hard to please everyone.

I am still in contact with a girl I nursed when I was a student and I am still in contact with the relatives of people I nursed. I have seen my GPs doing so much for their patients. My friend is a new GP and I hope she stays the distant .

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It sounds like you have had a good experience but believe me not everyone does.Doctors are not above anyone so they got to realize that and come down to earth.Where I come from it is public knowledge that the doctors,most of them,are very mean and disrespected to the nurse.I heard so my stories about that in my 60 years of life and dealing with doctors non stop.So I have had a different experience than yourself.We both can only talk about what we have experienced and heard if you Ho by that.

I'm so very glad you had a real good experience.I just wish more could have the same experience you have had.

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Oh how I agree. I should have said ‘good GPs’ deserve our respect. Respect is certainly not a right. My other responses in this thread will confirm my views.

There seems to be a universal adulation of the medical profession. I used to think it was because they knew more than us - but in many cases they certainly don’t.

I have a wonderful GP who turns around from his computer, makes eye contact and listens. That’s a good start. Fortunately for me he is thoroughly professional too.

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I make my Gp Laugh although i'm still in pain & no Difference, That's Life, but every Dept in the NHS & everywhere else is Choked that sums up Great Britain, ???

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Sadly I have to agree with you, however if you are ill thats the job your GP took on when they trained to be a GP and took the oath. Now they seem to have become keyboard wizz kids rather than medics to deal with medical issues and listen to their patients concerns which leads to moaning from the customer who feels let down in my opinion.

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Because GPs are not taught about nutrition and vitamins and minerals they are between a rock and a hard place.

For years we were reading about probiotics but we are still asking GPs teing to prescribe antibiotics.

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Glad to see someone appreciating our GPs. Their work must be so stressful. Overwhelming at times. Wonderful people. The nurses and therapists too.

Dee

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I come from a family of doctors and nurses. I think they work very hard and give it their all.

However they would be the first to admit that some of their colleagues are lacking.

Let’s not obsess about doctors. I come from a background in education. Most of my colleagues were hardworking and had the interests of children at heart. Others I would not trust to teach my dog old tricks.

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I worked closely with a great team of GPs and nurses when I was the chair of our Patient Participation Group. But then the surgery was taken over and a different type of GP joined, ones who thought that all the patients were 'walking well' and there was nothing wrong with them and they needed to be beaten down. It actually became more difficult to get an appointment, not because there weren't enough GPs but because the triage system was too difficult to get past. They saw their job as decreasing demand, not increasing supply to meet the needs of the patients.

After giving them a try I ended up moving to another GP practice (as did many other patients) and the difference is amazing. We are finally getting referrals for my son's conditions, and are being taken seriously.

So like any walk of life, there are good people and not-so-good people.

But to a certain extent GPs collectively are not helping themselves. There are new developments that can make a huge difference to GPs and patients. One of them is the system called askmyGP. askmygp.uk/how-it-works/ I did a lot of looking into these systems and found this was the best and recommended it to the surgery. They rejected it saying that the results couldn't have been as good as they said, they must be lying.

There is another model of healthcare being used in Scotland and Wales call Nuka, which was originally developed for the native population in South-central in Alaska. I had a conversation with a British GP who went to work in Alaska in this system and she said she would never go back to being a GP in the UK. When she does visit her old GP friends she feels that they have got themselves into such a rut that they are now so comfortable in everything being wrong, that they can't see to get out and make the changes they need to make things better for themselves and their patients. She felt they only had themselves to blame for the mess they were in.

So yes, it is a rough life having to listen to our moans every day, but that is what they signed up for. And there are things they could do to make it better if they wanted to.

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Very well said. How refreshing to hear words from an ‘open mind’.

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I fully agree with you about GP's.You had it right with what you said in you last part of your reply.They should know what they are signing up for if they do 't they have no right becoming a doctor and subjecting patients to their kind of treatment.Where I come from if you have more then one or two health conditions the GP's most of them do not want you for a patient.I always was lead to believe that GP's were there to look after patients that are sick not healthy.If they want healthy people then where does that leave us the unhealthy people.GP's job is to take care of sick people if they do not want to do that then please do not take up being a doctor.The doctors years ago did everything the doctors today are doing and more.We never heard them carry on like they do today.Like anything n life you should know what you are getting into before you get into or I'm sorry I do not feel the least bit bad for them.

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The only GP’s I have a problem with are those that display either an arrogant or uncaring attitude. On top of that our GP surgery seems to think that the weekend is never to be worked. If you join the health profession then you must realise that people are not always healthy when it’s weekend. Surely some rota between the GP’s there should mean they work one in every 3 or 4 weekends. Blair gave them all enormous wage increases so I would not mind being one for the money they get and the hours worked. Most patients are definitely not abusive and the few that are just deal with it.

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Thanks for your debate which I read with interest.

Working in partnership with patients as opposed to the out-dated paternalistic (doctor knows best) is the way forward, especially for a condition like chronic pain.

I do my best to find out what really matters to my patients then we look for solutions together. I bring my medical knowledge and they bring their knowledge of themselves (and their Google research) to the discussion.

A well-functioning multi-disciplinary team is essential to support all within it.

I am a GP. The biggest stress is managing time.

I also have a loved one who has chronic pain. In spite of being medically qualified, life has been a struggle. Doctors and their loved ones are also patients.

Lastly, we do not earn a lot of money. Until April 2019, when the NHS started to pay our indemnity, the indemnity bill wiped out most of my GP earnings, making it close to zero.

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GPs are on a rota and are on call to cover out of hours in our area at evenings and weekends. It has always been so. At my hospital the footballers were allow to park on our grounds with their own security so when the afternoon staff came on duty the security wanted to stop them coming on duty. They thought the Hospital closed at the weekend

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Hi Victoria, you will find good and bad in any DRS practice or in any job you have to be lucky who you see and then trust them , I also noticed at my old practice they found a lot of time for people who have a addiction misuse of substances etc as they would always either be in and out with there prescription or in a while , but when things go wrong they can be fatal one person who I know never went to the drs unless she had to and in the time she kept going they would tell her this that and the other but after going twice in a week she was rushed in hospital and they thought she had a stroke but she had a bleed on the brain and she had been going to see GP about headaches and dizziness and it was picked up that it was due to having a backwash at hairdresser, but it just shows how easier it is to miss things , she as made a good recovery and her practice can't do enough now if she as a problem , she isn't bitter as she was a nurse all she said was she hopes they can take it on board and learn from mistakes the day she had the bleed was the day her paperwork had come through that she had become a sister , and as she says that's life , but back to your question it is a hard job but it's a job they wanted like any job , be it nurse, policeman, firemen, and every job is stressful at times, sorry for going on.

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I left nursing just a the right time. We were used to having ward clerks then we had to do their jobs. When I booked an agency or bank staff I had to do all that paper work as well . This took me away from patients. This not why I became a nurse.

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Exactly couldn't agree more, only good thing to come out of it for her was she had got her pay increase to a sister as she had been doing for a month or two so as she couldn't go back to work she got a good pension

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Because they only want you during your 15 minutes to have one thing to complain about

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