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Have just heard this morning that my friend and her husband were both called yesterday by our GP surgery to have their vaccine that afternoon as the Oxford vaccine had just arrived. They are both in their early 70s but he is extremely vulnerable so I guess the policy is to give it to other older members of the household at the same time which seems to make sense.

Still have a while to wait for mine....

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sylvi profile image
sylvi

Thats good news.xxxxx

nomoreheels profile image
nomoreheels

Good news indeed. Personally I think it should be as with the flu vaccine, if there's one at risk person all the household should receive it the same time. Makes far more sense to me.

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Boxerlady in reply to nomoreheels

It's a good idea but that's never been suggested with the flu vaccine with hubby and I 🤔

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Bookworm55 in reply to Boxerlady

No I’m sure that doesn’t always happen.

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nomoreheels in reply to Boxerlady

I was always given it in Spain as my h is diabetic, changing to in my own right when I was diagnosed with RD. Our current GP Practice offers it to other members of the household of a vulnerable person, those otherwise not eligible... there may still be stocks available this year. Even if your husband hasn't previously he should have been offered it for this season's roll-out, in England. For specific info for the rest of the UK see below. Public Health England released this Why are household contacts of those on the NHS Shielded Patient List being offered flu vaccine this year? We want to keep those who are most vulnerable to COVID-19 well this winter and we do not want them to catch flu. In order to reduce the chance of a person who has an underlying health condition catching flu from members of their household we will be offering them the flu vaccine. If you live with someone who is on the NHS Shielded Patient List, or if you expect to share accommodation with them on most days over the winter, making close contact unavoidable, then you should ask for a free flu vaccine. By having the vaccination, household contacts of the shielded can reduce their chances of getting flu and spreading it to the person they live with who is more vulnerable. assets.publishing.service.g... page 5

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allanah in reply to nomoreheels

Shame its appearing not to be the same for covid vaccine . My hubby is 60 so much longer after the CEV group and as hes my carer so I find it hard to , for example , do shopping without him, so I'll be waiting till summer anyway but at least I'll know I'm much safer

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nomoreheels in reply to allanah

They are E, sort of. As I understand it not in the same group (not at the same time) as those in the shielding group, happy to be contradicted if I’ve misunderstood. At the same time as the adults under 65 years with long term conditions the vaccine will also be offered to: adults who provide regular care for an elderly or disabled person gov.uk/government/publicati...

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allanah in reply to nomoreheels

That would be fabulous but he doesnt get paid for it as we never wanted to claim. If anyone gets offered one I'd be grateful to find out how I would suggest it .

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nomoreheels in reply to allanah

Not sure if the same applies to unpaid carers but it doesn’t say specifically you've to be in receipt of Carer's Allowance just a regular carer. So it might be worth checking out?

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allanah in reply to nomoreheels

Thank you

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nomoreheels in reply to nomoreheels

This is info from other countries in the UK;

Public Health Wales. In addition, household contacts of those who have been shielding are also eligible for a free flu vaccine this year - it is vital for this group to have a vaccine to protect those they live with. phw.nhs.wales/services-and-...

Public Health Scotland. People living with those previously advised to shield. This year’s flu immunisation programme includes people who live in the same household as those previously advised to shield due to coronavirus. By receiving the vaccination, they should provide additional indirect protection to individuals who are shielding. This group of people will be informed that they can get the vaccine through national letters sent to individuals with eligible health conditions or those aged 65 and over. healthscotland.scot/health-...

Public Health Agency Northern Ireland. Vaccine eligibility. This year the flu vaccination programme has been expanded to help reduce the spread of flu and lower flu-related hospital admissions at a time when the health service is under strain as a result of COVID-19. It will also help reduce the risk of contracting flu and coronavirus at the same time. You are eligible if you are: living with someone who was asked to shield. publichealth.hscni.net/flu-...

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allanah in reply to nomoreheels

Thanks

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Eiram50 in reply to nomoreheels

As a rule, I have the flu vaccine every year. I’m offered it due to my condition, but also professionally. As a rule, no one else in the house has ever been offered it.

However, this year when asked to make my appointment, they told me that the girls should have it too (14 and 17 yrs) and when we went, they told the girls they would also be offered an appointment for the covid vaccine too.

My understanding is that no young person under 16 would receive the covid vaccine, but from what the girls were advised, this doesn’t seem to be the case - unless the nurse was Mia informed?

It makes perfect sense to me that if a clinically vulnerable person lives with someone, that they too should have the vaccine....... but what do I know? 🤔🤔

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nomoreheels in reply to Eiram50

Probably more than most Marie. It's good that the girls were given the flu vaccine, that's proving that the advice is working, by your GP Practice anyhow. Equally for them & the COVID vaccine, excellent, & just makes good sense. They must know how old they are so no argument there!

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Eiram50 in reply to nomoreheels

Agreed, and I have to say there was a sense of relief in knowing they too would have the vaccine.

I had a call from hospital ( rheumatology) yesterday telling me that I have to shield and that I would receive dreaded letter in due course.

Big improvement re last lockdown when I appeared to fall through the crack!

However, I shielded anyway as like most, we know what to do to keep ourselves as safe as possible.

However, as a social worker, there is more pressure around in terms of “need” and child protection which increasingly requires face to face contact with families and given the high case numbers and increased

Transmissibility of the new strain, I have to admit to being relieved that I haven’t fallen through the crack this time and have to completely work from

Home.

Hope you and your husband are keeping as well as can be and that you’re managing this further lockdown x

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nomoreheels in reply to Eiram50

I don't understand either why you were missed off the shielding list before, but at least now you have the official word. Have you noticed an increase in child protection need in your professional capacity Marie? We can only go by what we hear in the news which isn't terribly reliable or can be underplayed. Unfortunately I can well appreciate how it may have risen in these COVID times, families on top of one another & those at risk rising in number, it's harrowing to even consider. As least you know have the proof to enable you to from home, you'll be safer.

We're doing as everyone is & just accepting what we need to do. My h isn't brill if I’m honest & really needs to see his GP but is hesitant, he's lost faith in them. He's very emotional, it's really difficult knowing there's absolutely nothing I can say or do that will make any difference for him. He really needs continued professional help but that was left in the hands of his GP who has done diddly squat. We're 3 months on since his last psych appointment & he just feels let down. Another thing that hasn't helped is he's be told by his Cardiologist that his pain will be permanent, just one of the minority it happens to. Not helpful when you can't take appropriate pain relief. Heck, sorry to offload, thank you for asking though. Hope all is well with you & the girls? x

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Nyreedw in reply to Boxerlady

Anyone who lives with someone with a compromised immune system is entitled to a free flu jab. It's on the form at the pharmacy to tick x

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Boxerlady in reply to Nyreedw

That's interesting - haven't been told that. As it happens, my husband is entitled to one anyway as he had a stroke several years ago. This is the first year he's had one but I "encouraged" him rather firmly after I'd had mine! 😂

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allanah

That's fabulous news , so glad for them !

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bubblyalex

My gp said they were booking the second group at the start of last week. It is such great news that this getting going and fast 😁 I’m group 4

Neonkittie17 profile image
Neonkittie17

Excellent news. Makes sense. Wish they could do it for the CEV people too and vaccinate those in their house at the same time.

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allanah in reply to Neonkittie17

Me too x

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Neonkittie17 in reply to allanah

Wishing so much that could happen Allanah for us all who are vulnerable but I feel it’s too much to organise on top of everything else. X

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allanah in reply to Neonkittie17

Yes and it makes it longer for the next group I suppose x

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helenlw7

That’s really good news. My mum is 86 and is having hers on Wednesday. I’m CEV and shielding and can’t wait until vaccine day!

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Fra22-57

My aunt n uncle in their 80’s had their first just after Xmas .their second been delayed.my sister who is 67 had hers yesterday.she is is retired as pharmacist technician but does odd days now n then.my daughter is a career in a home and gets hers next week.My sisters granddaughter who works weekends at a care home in Scotland is only 17 but had had hers too.very sparodic in places.I know of 92 yr old gentleman who hasn’t had his yet.more who get it will be good

KittyJ profile image
KittyJ

My mother in law has had her two but her partner who’s a bit younger wasn’t given it.

Nyreedw profile image
Nyreedw

I'm 51 and had text to have my covid vaccine on Tues. They have been doing them round where I live for about a month x

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Eiram50

Yeah, unfortunately there has been a significant rise as restrictions have been lifted, which has not come as any surprise given the conditions under which people

Have been living.

It is a real challenge working under these conditions and we are having to be extremely creative in how we can reach out to families and monitor vulnerable situations.

However, I am lucky enough to be part of a very good team with lots of experienced workers so we are managing really well. And importantly, supporting each other well.

Clearly, that’s once more changed for me not that I have to shield again - this always introduces a feeling of frustration and anxiety around how I connect with families, but at the end of the day, you find a way.

In a positive note, I go for my Covid vaccine on Monday morning. This gives me some hope at least.

Really sorry to hear that your husband is going through a difficult time. I totally understand what you are saying and unfortunately, the demands on MH services ( always a bit of a Cinderella service) have been hugely exacerbated by the pandemic.

Equally, and it is not right, but my experience is that it is those that shout loudest that have accessed the services quicker.

I experienced difficulties with my daughter and getting her seen by MH services. Our GP was quite reluctant, waiting lists were incredible and I ended up getting advocacy and contacting the MH Commision. Only then did we get to move forward - it was a difficult process. It is a process that has such a negative impact in the people who need it most.

I hope that something changes soon and your husband can access the support he needs.

MH never just affects the individual but also has a significant impact on family too and I hope that you are taking care of yourself and have the support you need too.

Again, chronic pain adds to difficulties, doesn’t it? The link between this and depression is significant - it must feel like a no win situation. Bloody hard.

Hopefully, as we move through the pandemic, services will open up again and change how they manage and support those that need to access this, in a timely and meaningful way.

I’m just plodding along, thanks. The girls are good. Andi did extremely well in her highers last year so the offers from universities are rolling in, which is great - she is still in sixth year but will begin university in September this year. She will be living in the halls of residence so it will just be Lydia and Left in the house!

It will be a very different place going forward.

Take care and stay safe x

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