Sugar was maybe the culprit

[AgedCrone]

As usual it's just " Arthritis" " not OA or RA, but someone might

like to give it a try if nothing else has helped?

[Downtime]

Hilarious! 😂😂

[Gnarli]

Reeeeaally? 😂

[Mmrr]

Aaarrrggghhh

[Gnarli]

I'm taking no bets on a dead cert. But whatever the reason I'm glad he feels better.

Aww. Not a good day. Another good one gone. Who could forget "She"?

[Doughnut61]

Thanks for sharing 👍 if only it was that easy x

[Gnarli]

Ditto

[VeronicaF]

watching that program truth or scare about food on BBC1 sugar isn't very good for your stomach, it showed what it did inside the stomach

so I am not sure? love to know for sure

I love sugar and have a sweet tooth. Id find it hard to give up compleatly

[alexask]

Red wine is quite low in carbs. I had a bar of chocolate yesterday evening. Regretted it majorly in the evening. Eventually got to sleep at 2:30 am, but only after having to pedal on the stationary bike.

Caveat - I only have the one finger swollen at the moment and stiff hands in the morning. Waiting for the other finger to drop

[Hidden]

Ah well.. James Le fanu has written several books ie 'too many pills' so he would support the idea that cure could come from a small dietary change.

if only.....

[VeronicaF]

someone out there tell us you have no sugar at all and still have RA

[Caza in reply to VeronicaF]

Morning, I’ve never added sugar to anything. I never have desert or cakes. I don’t eat sweets. I have the occasional square of very dark chocolate. I normally cook from scratch unless I eat out. I’m not being good I just don’t like them. I have berries or fruit for breakfast. Like Aged I love my red wine 🍷 crisps & nuts 🥜😉

[Jules13 in reply to Caza]

Sadly crisps and wine have quite a lot of sugar too but my god we have to have a treat once in a while x

[Hidden]

I'm feeling a bit grumpy right now, but I'll be polite and so poop!

That said, I'm cutting out sugar to help stop the infection in my ears...and make me slimmer. The getting slimmer bit would certainly help joints. Maybe he was a great big fatty?

[Jules13 in reply to Hidden]

I cut out all the extra sugar I had.. marmalade on toast, a few squares of chocolate, the occasional biscuit and any hidden sugars in shop bought food, and I lost 3lbs in one week. Alcohol is the worse culprit for sugar sadly x

[VeronicaF]

I only have sugar in my tea, no other forms what so ever, I would get use to it not in my tea and would do it if this was 100% right, no pain would be worth it, but I have cut so much out would like to think its not 100%

[nomoreheels]

My guess is OA. Standard anti inflammatories prescribed by family doctor... no mention of Rheumy or specialist meds. Doctors used to prescribe a sugar pill (how apt) for patients for whom nothing worked & lo & behold they felt better. A touch of placebo effect for him with cutting out sugar perhaps?!

I also bad bad muscle pain on simvastatin, upper arms though. Changed to atorvastatin & been fine on it. More recently the dose was doubled, increased to 20mg, still no muscle pain. Work that one out, we both find a similar statin which can also cause muscle problems yet doesn't, most odd.

[cabbie]

I cut out sugar after my diagnosis and it helped me enormously ...but I love a snickers ice cream !

[cabbie]

I did an exclusion diet first sugar etc etc I had 3 sugars in tea several cups a day I changed to green tea & stopped all added sugar alcohol . I have a noticeable reaction...not immediately if I have anything with a high sugar content .

[VeronicaF in reply to cabbie]

oh dear I didn't want to hear that answer cabbie

its very interesting and is going to give me food for thought, I do have a lot of cups of tea, and I do have sugar in it, I hate sweetners

[Jules13 in reply to VeronicaF]

So don’t stop immediately you will get horrible headaches. I used to have a teaspoon sugar in both tea and coffee and that adds up when you have 5 or more a day. I warned myself over a few weeks. And then decided I replace my sugar in coffee with half tsp of either honey or maple syrup. It’s yummy.

Now I have date syrup in porridge. It’s still sugar but natural occurring sugars so low glycemic and they’re so much sweeter so you don’t need as much. Plus now I cut my caffeine down to one or two a day and instead have herbal tea. It has completely changed my health. X

[Izabella81]

Actually sugar is a very very big inflammatory so cutting it out certainly does help and we should all do so! I don’t think it’s what caused his condition but removing it from his diet it could certainly have helped easy symptoms and allowed the meds to work!

I’ve recently cut all raw sugar ( I’m still having baked treats🙈) but I’m not adding it to my many coffees and teas through the day. Hoping to cut it all out eventually and hopefully it will easy some of my inflammation.

[cabbie]

It was like going cold turkey ! I really missed my sweet tea but for me it really helped .

[VeronicaF]

sometimes I wonder if taking an allergy tablet every day,would you get away with it then?

has anyone tried it and it works?

[VeronicaF]

I already dream of eating things I don't have anymore, the cravings are awful, I only have to watch tv, I don't watch the film all I notice is what their eating

[VeronicaF]

but yum look what I found

Simply Delish Chocolate Instant Pudding Mix Sugar Free Dessert (Pack of 6)

might not be so bad

and these, if its as simple as cutting out sugar, it looks easier in what you can have instead

Gullon Sugar Free Biscuits - Chocolate Selecion - x 5 packs

[nomoreheels in reply to VeronicaF]

I always check ingredients, nutritional info & E numbers of any new product that takes my fancy. Low fat items tend to be high in sugar, especially in yoghurts, so be aware. Also check the quantity quoted. For the pud you mention they're based on only a 9g serving, that doesn't seem a lot of pud! Out of 8 ingredients there are 6 E numbers, high for the amount of ingredients. Of the 3 sweeteners one is aspartame, (E414 is a polysaccharide), another is acesulfame k, sometimes known as ace k, equally as sweet as aspartame, that's a whole other discussion.

When my h became diabetic we initially obviously took care with 'hidden' sugars. Instead of one of our favourites, McVities Dark Chocolate Digestives (or rather the Spanish counterpart, Fontaneda) we tried the Gullón ones (they're a Spanish product). They didn't compare so we stayed with McVities & just had 2 with an afternoon cup of tea instead of 3. Sometimes you can get away with staying with your favourites, just eating less of them than you would normally. Unless you're going totally sugar free, which can be difficult, it's a good compromise & you don't feel cheated which can make a difference between remaining on a plan or not.

[VeronicaF in reply to nomoreheels]

can yo have milk choc instead nomoreheel? I don't like dark choc

I hear you say no you can't, worth asking though

[nomoreheels in reply to VeronicaF]

You're right! Milk chocolate always has more sugar than dark which has more cocoa solids & cocoa butter & less sugar. There's not as much cocoa but there is more milk (normally milk powder), sugar & cream. The obvious answer being dark is better for you but if you only like milk just maybe eat less? Or you could try diabetic chocolate but I bought some for my h one Easter & it wasn't particularly appreciated, but he likes 70% upwards dark chocolate anyway.

[Jules13 in reply to VeronicaF]

Have to say that all manufactured sweeteners are very bad. Apart from stevia leaf. Try honey in recipes or maple syrup if you need that sweetness.

[VeronicaF]

yes might try it agedcrone, do you eat what you want except sugar agedcrone?

I really want to eat what I want, I know as soon as I do up comes the pain

I think I have mastered the pain bit as long as I am stricked on diet, veg, salads, salmon,sardines,anything else up comes the pain

[Marycullen]

I have had RA for 18 years and hav been on all the drugs and infusions available for RA. Last November i stopped all processed sugar and by January I was completely out of pain and no inflammation. I had my Rituxan in February and was due again in July. I told th doctor I didn’t need it. She did my bloodwork and my inflammation and RA factors were so low that I am only on methotrexate until I see her on December. No pain since January and I am going to the gym four days a week and walking a mile every night woth my dog. My RA was so bad that I had to quit my job after one year and I was only in my early fifties then. I live alone and that as very scary.

[VeronicaF in reply to Marycullen]

what was your diet totally day to day marycullen also

how did you get round the total none sugar in your diet? did you go diabetic diet?

if you don't mind answering?

[Marycullen in reply to VeronicaF]

I usually eat healthy except for my sugar addiction. I used to be a smoker about 30 years ago and I believe I switched to processed sugar, especially candy. Whenever I was stressed or in pain there went the sugar into me. Last November when I was away I ran out of my candy and made a decision to stop processed sugar, including cakes, pies, ice cream, etc. by January I was completely out of pain. I have been on every infusion and drug there has been since 2000 when I was diagnosed. I had my rituxan infusion in February and was on a 4 month cycle. In July I told my rheumatologist that I didn’t think I needed my infusion and she took the appropriate blood work and my inflammation was almost completely gone and my RA factor as way low. She is keeping me on methotrexate and I am to see her in December. I still need to rest at times but I am going to the gym 2-3 days a week and walk my dog for a mile every night. I just thank the Lord for every painfree day. I truly be,in e processed sugar is poison to us. I still drink my wine and I eat a lot of fruit but all that is natural sugar. Now I rarely even have bread, potatoes and pasta since I am not as hungry. The best part is that I lost 22 lbs with just cutting out sugar. Hope this helps.

[VeronicaF in reply to Marycullen]

well its not want I wanted to hear but its what I need to hear, well done and thank you.

[Marycullen]

Red wine is a natural sugar.

[nomoreheels]

It can. Do you know I have the same problem with labelling, white on any colour & my arms aren't long enough, the glasses have to go on.

[Mmrr]

Sadly I cannot tolerate alcohol of any kind, even in teeny amounts despite being a wine lover pre RD, but an occasional cake is fine 🍰

[VeronicaF]

I am sure my ra is trying to make me into some sort of monk

[nomoreheels]

Will do, thanks Kathy.

[nomoreheels]

Yup. Horrible stuff. I do like Thornton's Continental & even the odd Galaxy but you're right, Swiss & Belgian kick them into a cocked hat. Charbonnel et Walker drinking chocolate is lush, flakes not powder. My treat each Christmas as it's at it's best made with proper milk.

[BonnieT]

Never thought about sugar but certainly feel it’s what we eat. I don’t know who coined the phrase “you are what you eat” but they are so correct.

[Jules13]

I gave up sugar last week as an experiment. I eat very healthily but I worked out all the hidden sugars add up. My teaspoon of marmalade most mornings, the odd biscuit or shop bought ready meal. The sugar in one week added up to a day’s calories. In one week just cutting out the small amount I consume, I lost 3lbs too. X

[Jules13 in reply to Jules13]

And.... I felt great. Not as many aches and pains. More energy.

[aod75]

I have had endometriosis for 15 years and the only way I have been able to keep the pain under control is an anti inflammatory diet that I dip in and out of depending on how I’m feeling - low sugar and low animal fats. Last year when my joints started hurting and I was exhausted all the time I tried the diet and it did make a difference but just not enough. I was diagnosed with RA later on and I’m on enbrel now and doing well.

I do think that it’s worth trying for anyone, especially someone who isn’t getting enough relief from their medication.

[pauluk60]

this is like the who says hes got arthritis and runs marathons i wish i was stood next to him if i could it would been bop IF TRUE he should know better all the peeps he is putting down words are easy

[Jules13]

Cutting down my sugar has made me feel much better. I sleep better and have more energy and my skin looks great. If you cut it out completely you then crave it so it’s not about banishing it, it’s about lowering sugar intake. X

[Jules13]

Sorry my luv but you never go cold turkey in anything. Much healthier to slowly cut down.