Champix and Suicide

I am very sorry but this is making me very angry, so many people scaring others and saying that Champix causes Suicide, Suicide is NOT a side effect of Champix, depression is a side effect of Champix (as well as a side effect of smoking cessation). Let me explain …

A medication will not put you into such a trance that you unwittingly commit suicide, it will make you feel so low and unhappy and depressed, this may or may not make you have thoughts of ending your life, if you are aware that you are getting that low it is advised you seek help – Samaritans – SaneLine – your Doctor or even just talking to friends can help when you are low.

When you are depressed you tend to isolate yourself from others and it is very hard to talk to people, you think far too much about things that are sometimes better left alone, you lose self worth and everything becomes pointless.

Champix does not cause suicide = depression is normally what causes suicidal thoughts, if you are getting depressed or you know someone is getting depressed, seek help.

Sorry but if someone insinuates to me again on this site that I am probably going to jump off a building because I take Champix I shall ask for the post to be moderated, Putting things like that in peoples minds is not big and its not clever.

If you wish to make a point could you do it less sarcastically please and maybe more proactively!

Thank you

I feel better now!

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  • Hi Littleoleme :D

    Well said I agree with you entirely about this and you have a right to ask for it to be deleted

    The vast majority of us champix users have no big problems with it at all aside from a few mils side effects

    I personally know a lot of folk that used it not just the people here

    I sued it, my Son used it. some of my friends used it and now my OH is using it

    Not one of us had more than a little nausea while taking it

    Trouble is that one or two have a bad time and that of course is the only stories we here about the hundreds of people that use it with no bad side effects are of course forgotten about

    This sort of thing makes me really angry

    Love

    Marg xx

  • I am very sorry but this is making me very angry, so many people scaring others and saying that Champix causes Suicide, Suicide is NOT a side effect of Champix, depression is a side effect of Champix (as well as a side effect of smoking cessation). Let me explain …

    A medication will not put you into such a trance that you unwittingly commit suicide, it will make you feel so low and unhappy and depressed, this may or may not make you have thoughts of ending your life, if you are aware that you are getting that low it is advised you seek help – Samaritans – SaneLine – your Doctor or even just talking to friends can help when you are low.

    When you are depressed you tend to isolate yourself from others and it is very hard to talk to people, you think far too much about things that are sometimes better left alone, you lose self worth and everything becomes pointless.

    Champix does not cause suicide = depression is normally what causes suicidal thoughts, if you are getting depressed or you know someone is getting depressed, seek help.

    Sorry but if someone insinuates to me again on this site that I am probably going to jump off a building because I take Champix I shall ask for the post to be moderated, Putting things like that in peoples minds is not big and its not clever.

    If you wish to make a point could you do it less sarcastically please and maybe more proactively!

    Thank you

    I feel better now!

    Can see why you're upset but think the person was just being flippant - inappropriately, also they seem to be an advocate of the e-cig, perhaps even a seller. Motives may not be pure, don't let it rattle you.

    Ignore and move on.

    As you were concerned I've reported the post to the mods.

    M

  • I haven't been rattled, I was angry, there is a bit of difference.

    I am not thinking about me, I am thinking of others that may be desperate to give up smoking and scared of trying Champix. I was also thinking of those people out there that are depressed, it seems that it s not just Champix that makes you depressed, its giving up smoking.

    I would like to say to everyone that is feeling down, low or whatever...

    You may be feeling down now and it may go on for some time, but hang on in there, it can only get better, keep coming back here, phone a friend talk to your Dr or whatever you need to do, Summer is coming the sun will shine and the birds will sing.

    Warm hugs from me

    Can see why you're upset but think the person was just being flippant - inappropriately, also they seem to be an advocate of the e-cig, perhaps even a seller. Motives may not be pure, don't let it rattle you.

    Ignore and move on.

    As you were concerned I've reported the post to the mods.

    M

  • When I stopped smoking last time I used champix, I used to get annoyed when friends used to say things to me like, are you sure you should be taking that, or it was in the paper last week people taking that drug are commiting suicide.

    Whilst I was on the Champix before I don't think I ever felf better, whether it was that I had finally quit nic but I certainly had a spring in my step and a lot more energy! I even joined a gym (it went bust).

    My only regret!!! I started again so here I am again!!!

  • Totally agree

    Hiya all,

    I totally agree with what you are saying, Champix is ok to be taken as an aid to quitting. I am sure that if anyone had a history of depression, then their GP would not prescribe it to them.

    I read all of the negative stuff online about Champix, but my GP told me that it would be fine for me. Here I am, 2 weeks into taking it and apart from a bit of stomache ache here and there for a few days, I am feeling great and have just completed 3 days as a non smoker and they have been very easy, if I am honest with myself.

    So go for it, and good luck.

    Regards to all

    Aremess

  • Champix

    Hiya All,

    Re: champix. Can only talk for myself but I have found this to be almost a wonder drug for me. Just completed my third week of taking it and my 7th day of not smoking. Whilst I have had a little nausea after taking it, it has been mild. Also, had some disturbed sleep but this may be due to the nicotine withdrawal and not the champix.

    Champix is working for me in terms of making things easier than I have found in the past, although it is not a miracle cure - you still need willpower.

    I am sure your GP would weigh up the risks before prescribing it and monitor your reaction to it as my doc does.

    Well good luck to everyone whether you decide champix or NRT is best for you. Going into my second week tomorrow - yipee!

    Maymee

  • Champix

    Regarding champix, this i something i would definetley recommend to fellow quitters. I am currently using champix for the second time. First time using champix, i stopped in week 3 and stopped for 2 months, due to personal problems within the family, and a great amount of stress i started again. With regards to GPs not prescribing champix to people with a medical history of depression, they do. As i have suffered twice with depression, i am using champix for the second time without serious thoughts other than the ARGH of not smoking, especially with the kids winding me up... but anyway as others have said, any serious feelings of harming yourself whilst on this drug, please do contact your GP as soon as possible. But as far as feelings of depression, i also think this is down to just giving up nicotine in general.

    Champix round two, and still only the same side effects as last time - nausea - which i have now managed to find out a way to help me not have this side effect whilst taking the drug. Eating ten minutes after taking the pill helps the nausea ease, for me anyway. I am now day 5 of stopping smoking with champix, and recently due to a breakdown in communication between GP surgery and Pharmacy using orbit complete aswell. Just got my repeat prescription today(Pheww) after needing it since saturday. But still stopped without taking it for 4 days. I'm proud of myself as this is my 3rd REAL attempt at stopping.

    ANyway, just thought i'd share my view on champix as i seem to now be rambling on...

  • Aren’t drugs simply wonderful?

    When you smoke you’re in the hands of the tobacco companies and when you quit you’re in the hands of the pharmaceutical companies. Unfortunately to go into battle with any of them takes big budgets or massive public support.

    Varenicline was FDA approved in 2006, investigated in 2008 and ended up carrying the strongest public health advice in 2009. It is still under investigation.

    Remember when it was prescribed for soldiers suffering from post traumatic stress disorder? Barack Obama (then Senator) made a public statement on the issue, saying “It is outrageous and unacceptable that our government would irresponsibly endanger veterans who have already sacrificed so much for our country.”

    Prescribe it to smokers, they’re expendable.

    This lady nearly took her own life despite her family noticing alterations in her manner and pleading with her to stop taking Champix.

    The real black humour here is that it might be possibly, slightly, maybe acceptable if it actually worked as well as the manufacturers claim.

    I totally agree with the OP that Champix does not cause suicide but only in the same way that a bomb on an aircraft isn’t a problem until it explodes.

    You may feel angry because your drug of choice is being dragged over the coals but that’s the price paid when we’re all allowed our own opinions.

    Personally it scares the bejezus out of me! I’d have to have a water-tight guarantee and indisputable evidence before taking a drug that is ‘designed’ to suppress feelings of joy and satisfaction in my brain. :(

  • Well!! this is my second time of taking the drug! and I certainly have had NO sucicidal thoughts whatsoevr, infact the last time it was great!! just feel such a pratt that after nine months of being free of nictotine that I was stupid enough to think I could cope!

    Four weeks into the drug again! and feeling and doing fine!!! as far as I am concerned champix is great!

  • I quit successfully with Champix and apart from nausea and weird dreams, no real side effects.

    There has been a lot of reports - particularly USA - of associated depression/suicidal tendencies. I did a fair bit of research about this. My opinion is that in several suicide cases, there were underlying issues not associated with smoking and/or Champix, ie failed relationship, previous suicide attempts.

    Doctors seem to be responsibily erring on the side of caution and there should be checks and balancing before prescribing Champix to anyone with a history of depression people. People should be aware of the risks of mood-swings which can be mild to extreme. Clearly if it's more than a bit of general downer, people should seek advice and be more aware of their own feelings at this stage. Also bear in mind, the whole process of giving up smoking can be a depressive experience for some people.

    I know people who refuse to even consider taking Champix because of some of the more extreme scaremongering which has gone on in the media about the drug.

    The message is to be aware of the risks, be attuned to changes in moods, seek advice if you think you need it, weigh up all the options for giving up - Champix, NRT, CT etc etc, and find one which works for you.

    Sue

  • ...The message is to be aware of the risks, be attuned to changes in moods, seek advice if you think you need it, weigh up all the options for giving up - Champix, NRT, CT etc etc, and find one which works for you....

    Surely the real message needs to be a lot tougher.

    Do some research and find out what works, full-stop. Not what works for you.

    Be very cautious of believing anything you read that isn’t an official report.

    Hype from those with a financial interest should be treated as dubious.

    If a fabulous quit smoking product with higher than CT quit rates hit the market but had seriously dodgy side-effects there’s a good case to be made for its adoption.

    If a quit smoking product with less than CT quit rates hit the market but had seriously dodgy side-effects there’s a good case to be made for prosecution.

    If you want it Champix is available on-line with a “net doctor” consultation.

    Says it all really. :(

  • Hmmm, I think this is a really important debate but I do think there is a lot of scaremongering.

    My Mum wanted to try it but as she suffers from depression and is on anti-depressants the doctor wouldn't prescribe it. He pointed out that it is a medication and like any other has possible side effects and can cause more so in people with certain medical history or use of other medications.

    I agree that it does not cause suicide but I do think in people with mental health problems or who may be succeptable to those health problems it can cause further and serious problems. Otherwise the doc would have given it to my Mum.

    I am not being negative towards it but as a medication then it is bound to suit some people and cause problems for others just like any other medicine.

    If it works for you then brilliant :) I know loads of people didn't feel well on the patches and they suit me really well.

    Debs

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