Albutrix

[Yankees28]

Hello, a friend of mine gave me a book by Lee Hull. In the book there was a mention of a supplement called Albutrix. Has anyone had positive results using this supplement? It is quite expensive and I do not know if it is worth the money. Thank you.

[PaulSheldonFoote]

I have been taking Albutrix for 2 years while switching to a very low protein vegan diet. My BUN dropped to 8. My A1C dropped from 6.1 (pre-diabetes) to 4.9 (normal). My problem is that I have anemia (not iron deficient) now. I struggle to keep albumin in normal range. I have found it difficult to achieve desired calorie levels with a vegan diet.

[orangecity41 NKF Ambassador in reply to PaulSheldonFoote]

I have CKD 3b, also have anemia, non iron deficient. Pre diabetic. Please share your experience.

[PaulSheldonFoote in reply to orangecity41]

By switching to a very low protein, vegan diet, I lost more than 20 pounds. That might explain the improvement in A1C. Unfortunately, I made my diet even more restrictive. I have had a calcium oxalate kidney stone removed a few years ago. So, I avoid high oxalate foods such as spinach, raspberries, and purple yams. I did not have anemia when I was following a typical diet.

[orangecity41 NKF Ambassador in reply to PaulSheldonFoote]

Thanks for sharing. I am being tested for other types of anemia.

[Badger2024]

If you scroll down after clicking on your post you’ll see a heading saying ‘Related Posts’ Albutrix has been discussed before. Perhaps read those posts in addition to responses you get here

[WYOAnne NKF Ambassador]

We have had many discussions on this site regarding Lee Hull's book. He is a quack and is trying to make money. If Albutrix really worked, every doctor would be prescribing it. Please don't waste your money. I am sure your nephrologist would tell you the same thing.

[PaulSheldonFoote in reply to WYOAnne]

Wrong. My first nephrologist was rated number one in the world at ExpertScape.com. He has published more than 1,000 articles on kidney disease in medical journals. His articles have included articles about the Albutrix type products. Unfortunately, he left UCI to return to UCLA. Some nephrologists know little about nutrition. They have not even heard of Cronometer. Instead, they prescribe dangerous drugs developed for patients with CKD and diabetes. The warnings for these drugs include death from gangrene and yeast infection.

[WYOAnne NKF Ambassador in reply to PaulSheldonFoote]

Do a search on this NKF site from previous posts and discussions regarding Lee Hull and the whole Albutrix controversy.

[PaulSheldonFoote in reply to WYOAnne]

Doctors are prescribing very dangerous drugs that have been shown to slow the progression of CKD for patients with diabetes. It is critical to slow the decline of GFR. If a diet, supplement, or drug becomes available that STOPS the progression of CKD, I want to try that.

[WYOAnne NKF Ambassador in reply to PaulSheldonFoote]

Barbara55109 is correct !

[barbara55109]

Lee Hull recommends it because he owns the company. Ask your nephrologist.

[WYOAnne NKF Ambassador]

Please know that there is no supplement or drug that can cure CKD or heal what has already been damaged. If I were you, I would ask my nephrologist to send me to a renal dietician. Many on this site have great success in stabilizing or at least slowing down the progression of CKD with Diet. Better way to spend your money.

When I was diagnosed it was 1992 and there was no special diet, just "no added salt." I would have done anything to slow things down. I was put on the UNOS transplant list in 1998 and had my GIFT of LIFE in Oct 1999. My HERO was a 16 year old deceased donor. I am not an expert but have had some training from the NKF, besides as an Ambassador on this site, I am also a Kidney Advocate for Wyoming. My advice...start a kidney friendly diet now.

Take care!

[Yankees28 in reply to WYOAnne]

Thank you. Yes I am starting a lower protein diet and eating more Whole Foods, fruits and vegetables. I am giving up processed foods and trying to really eat healthy.

[WYOAnne NKF Ambassador in reply to Yankees28]

NKF also has a site you should check out at kidney.org

There are some diet suggestions, etc.

Let me know how you are doing! I have my transplant labs done tomorrow.

[Yankees28 in reply to WYOAnne]

I wish you the best with your labs tomorrow.

[WildIris]

I tried Albutrix for a while a couple of years ago. It was too pricey for me to take in the doses Lee Hull recommends, and I couldn't perceive any difference either in how I felt or my eGFR, so I quit. In my case, diet alone seems to have improved my eGFR and how I feel.

Lee Hull is not a quack though. His diet and exercise advice is good. For information about ketoanalogues See ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl.... This paper reviews animal and human studies on ketoanalogues supplementing a restricted protein diet in either kidney disease or partial nephrectomy in mice. Ketoanalogues reduce proteinuria and muscle wasting and weight loss and seems to preserve kidney function, in general, but more thorough testing is recommended since people's lives and health are more complicated than the lives of lab animals.

It is quite expensive though, so unless your rich, you'd have to consider your priorities.