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Comprehensive CKD and healthy Diet app

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If you are aware of any reputable comprehensive apps to help track food intake for CKD patients. I would love a recommendation.

Kidney diet tracking is complicated and it would be invaluable to have a toolset for those of us trying to implement dietary changes that are comprehensive.

By comprehensive I mean any apps that track multiple key components of well rounded diets including:

1. kidney minerals (sodium, phosphate, potassium, protein and water )

2. nutrients (vitamins, minerals, amino acids), calories, fat, cholesterol, etc

3. Sugar

etc….

Things for overall good health and that those with co-mobilities ( heart disease, diabetes, overweight, etc) need to manage,

I’ve read that a serous issue with those on kidney diets is malnutrition.

Yet I haven’t found a comprehensive 360 degree resource to address this problem.

It is all about making it easier for people to manage their overall health and simplifying the process.

I believe that there is a lot of potential for AI based tools that could simplify this for the end users.

It is difficult to keep track of all variables and I can’t manage multiple apps. It is overwhelming to gather and enter the data into an app

I downloaded several apps and tested them from the Apple Store, they were all lacking. All were single focused, ie only tracking the kidney minerals and no nutrients or calories.

The best kidney tracking app that I found was Kidney Diet from the NKF.

However it was lacking in that it only tracked only potassium, phosphorus, sodium and water.

Also it’s’ database was extremely limited as far of a very limited default food list and the search function made it difficult to find even basic items.

I revisited it yesterday and my trial period was up. I tried using it for two weeks before I started learning about CKD foods which has taken me months of research every day.

Weight watchers used to have a great app with a robust database of foods with calorie, fats, carbohydrates, etc. the NKF has one that tracks the 3 related to CKD.

It also had a QR code to find foods with labels or add them. You had to look up foods without labels in the database but it had a comprehensive list as a starting point

Not sure of an app that tracks nutrients like vitamins, amino acids, etc.

Would love to find something like that. I’ll post it if I find something.

Again a preference would be an all in one comprehensive app .

Besides being from a reputable sources that includes up to date accurate data it is also important that the app be offered at a price point that would not be a financial barrier for use. There are numerous sites out there with people trying to monetize their own products and content. I don’t trust them based on several that I’ve vetted

Any toolset should also offer a longer trial period as learning about how to fit a diet to one’s unique health requirements and food preferences can be overwhelming and can take considerable time.

Some factors to be considered to justify this include:

If the database isn’t very good it takes dedication to find the data to enter yourself.

As the diet emphasizes eating non processed foods and Lots of fruits, vegetables and other whole food items which either don’t have nutritional labels and often don’t track phosphate it takes lots of time to find food lists that contain the data.

Then you have to find a reputable data sources with mineral content, nutrition values and calorie content et .

It’s a daunting task and something that the most people would not attempt or if they do give up on.

If I can find all of the required information and don’t get frustrated I will probably do my best to create a spreadsheet of the items that I eat with their values to help track it myself.

it takes lots of time when you learn that you have CKD to try and educate yourself on what you need to do to slow or reverse the disease

For example: I started educating myself about it when I noticed that my chart said that I had a new condition. No one told me about it. when I met with my doctor to discuss she said it was too early to be concerned. I requested that she refer me to the specialist anyway.

Because the reality is that it can take time to get an appointment with the nephrologists ( I waited 4 months, my appointment is this week).

After that I hope to get a referral to a dietitian specialist for CKD. So a good trial period for an app would be a minimum of 6 months to a year.

It’s important to give people the opportunity to learn about the disease and see how complicated an app is to use and what the benefits are not to mention have the benefit of having their diet data to share with the doctor. Also because it will take awhile to see if dietary changes are helping and your lab results are improving people may give up too soon.

We all are going to be on our diets and as our disease progresses our dietary needs will change over time.

This will result in lifelong subscibers.

From an overall health perspective if there were grants available to encourage high tech applications teams to develop such a program it could translate into a significant savings in the health care industry and government by reducing longterm health care costs.

There may be lobbyists who benefit from the astronomical costs of 33% of our country’s population getting this disease but there should be advocates who could rally around the cause!

Here’s to hoping that if enough people ask for this much needed solution someone who can make it happen will take one.

Please reply if you are aware of any from a reputable source that already has a decent app

Thanks

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BassetmommerNKF Ambassador

You are correct that there is not a perfect app. I used MYFITNESSPAL. The thing is, I had to build my library. Every time I ate a new food, I would have to authenticate the Nutrional values with reputable sources. It took time and effort. But then, I had a library I could count on.

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2023CKD in reply toBassetmommer

Thanks !

I used to use Fitness Pal. It is great for tracking calories and foods as well as steps and exercises.. It was a fabulous app for that . Does it track phosphorous, potassium, sodium too? I know it tracks calories, protein, water, etc. I recently deleted my account, which in retrospect is too bad as it probably would have maintained my library. I'm hoping to find one app that does it all so that I don't have to double or triple enter to track.

I'll give it another look as it was more then 10 years ago since I used it.

Appreciate your suggestion.

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BassetmommerNKF Ambassador in reply to2023CKD

Yes potassium, no phosphorous and that info is hard to find on most nutritional info sites. Go in and see if you can open your old account. I kept mine, even though I do not use it and my library was still there.

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orangecity41NKF Ambassador

Have you tried Davita diet tracker for info? I too have to watch food for another condition.

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2023CKD in reply toorangecity41

Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look. I hadn't heard of it.

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WinJ3

Certainly, managing chronic kidney disease (CKD) involves meticulous tracking of various dietary components and health parameters. While there isn't a single app that covers every aspect you mentioned comprehensively, there are several apps that can help you manage different facets of your kidney health and dietary intake. Here are a few recommendations:

1. **MyFitnessPal**: MyFitnessPal is a popular app for tracking food intake, calories, macronutrients, and micronutrients. While it may not specifically cater to CKD patients, it allows you to track your food consumption and manually input nutritional information, which can be useful for monitoring your intake of sodium, potassium, phosphorus, protein, and other nutrients. The app also provides a vast database of foods, including many common items with nutritional breakdowns.

2. **Nutritionix Track**: Nutritionix Track is another versatile app for tracking food intake and monitoring nutrition. It offers features similar to MyFitnessPal and allows you to set goals for various nutrients and track your progress over time. You can manually input foods and their nutritional information, enabling you to monitor your intake of kidney minerals and other nutrients relevant to CKD management.

3. **DaVita Diet Helper**: Developed specifically for individuals with kidney disease, the DaVita Diet Helper app offers resources and tools tailored to CKD patients. It provides access to kidney-friendly recipes, allows you to track your food intake, and offers guidance on managing key nutrients like sodium, phosphorus, and potassium. The app also includes educational materials to help you make informed dietary choices.

4. **Renal Diet HQ IQ**: Renal Diet HQ IQ is designed to assist CKD patients in managing their dietary intake and adhering to renal diet guidelines. It offers features for tracking nutrient intake, monitoring fluid intake, and accessing kidney-friendly recipes. The app provides personalized recommendations based on your dietary preferences and health goals, helping you maintain a balanced diet while managing your kidney health.

While these apps can be valuable tools for tracking food intake and managing aspects of your diet relevant to CKD, it's essential to consult with your healthcare provider or a registered dietitian for personalized guidance and recommendations tailored to your specific nutritional needs and health status. They can help you develop a comprehensive dietary plan that addresses your individual requirements and supports your overall health and well-being.

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2023CKD in reply toWinJ3

Thanks, I've been looking at various apps today. I'll check out the ones I may have missed. Meanwhile I think I found one that may be more comprehensive and track the kidney values, calories and macro nutriends. I'm trying to demo it. Stay tuned...

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WinJ3 in reply to2023CKD

I forgot to add another one I tried for a few years and was very helpful: Cronometer cronometer.com/

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2023CKD in reply toWinJ3

Thanks, that is one that I discovered last night. It is awesome! I wrote a note about it earlier today. It's just what I was looking for. They are continuing to update it as it's primary market and revenue stream is professional dietician use.

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WinJ3 in reply to2023CKD

It’s good, but still needs improvements to help guide CKD diets.

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CuriousCKD in reply toWinJ3

Great info, thanks!

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CuriousCKD

I, too, use MYFITNESSPAL. I like it, but many people will post a common item, and some don’t list the nutrition values. There may be 5 identical brand items, but only 1 or two will show values on the nutrition page. It’s a matter of trial and error.

As BassettM replied, some things take a bit of searching for. However, you can also create your own recipes, import the ingredients, and number of servings, and the app will break down the ingredients and calculate each serving with the appropriate calories and other nutrients. I purchased the Premium Tools package to get full benefits of the app, but otherwise it’s free.

It does keep me accountable, and I can regulate my potassium and sodium, but not phosphorus. I still read and compare labels. All in all, I think it’s a fairly comprehensive app, so far. 🙂

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nonna70

I think NKF is doing more work on their app; I was invited to participate but have too many irons in the fire.

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2023CKD

I found a fabulous app that does everything that I need for now for free and has the option to customize your Daily recommended values if needed in the paid version. It has everything that I need fand is easy to use. I started testing it last night. This app has been around for a long time, was designed for health care providers and nutritionists to work with their clients. Highly recommended by many well known health care providers. I will make a separate post about it. Stay tuned.

I love Cronometer. I have found the entries to be accurate (I had trouble with MyFitnessPal), and I can choose the macro and micro nutrients I want to track. With the paid version, you can track even more, and share your diaries with your health care professionals. It checks all the boxes for me personally.

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2023CKD

Thanks for the extra info. I’m loving it too! So easy to use. Makes tracking easy and fun!

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