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How much fiber are you eating?

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This is a meta-analysis regarding dietary fiber and CKD. It was interesting. A fiber supplement, like psyllium might be a good idea. I take a supplement for fiber. Like many of you, I would rather eat well than take a pill. ://nature.com/articles/ejcn201...

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Starch is part of my CKD diet and have oats everyday.

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RoxanneKidney in reply to orangecity41

I like steel cut oats, but otherwise only in cookies. I find the traditional pasty.

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Skeptix

Would a plant based diet (reasonably varied but not targeting fibre per se) be fibre rich by nature? I was hoping so, it would give me one less thing to have to think about.

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RoxanneKidney in reply to Skeptix

Yeah but fiber you don't have to think about popping a supplement. Here is the conclusion:

Conclusion

Pooled analyses of controlled feeding trials show that dietary fiber supplementation in the diet of those with CKD leads to a reduction in serum urea and creatinine as clinical biomarkers of renal function and in a dose-dependent manner for serum creatinine.

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On the recommendation of my nephrologist and PCP, I added milled flax seed and chia seeds to my diet. Go slow and build up on the use because it can also back you up at first. AND drink water. I started with 1-2 teaspoons and now I am very liberal, probably 2-3 tablespoons at day. I put it in my oatmeal, on my salad and when I have pasta I add it and it adds a nuttiness without the fat. It does have protein but since I am plant-based, I can use the protein. It is minimal. Made a world of difference for me who had problems my whole life with end results.....pun intended.

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Skeptix in reply to Bassetmommer

Was that to counter the .. how shall I put it .. liberalness of movement that appears to come as a result of going plant based?

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BassetmommerNKF Ambassador in reply to Skeptix

nope, just the opposite. I was not regular in any fashion, shape or form.... sorry, could not resist.

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Skeptix in reply to Bassetmommer

And was that a state of affairs that commenced with the plant diet. For lack of any shape or form is own recent experience :)

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BassetmommerNKF Ambassador in reply to Skeptix

Try the flax seed, it will help with that issue.

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RoxanneKidney in reply to Bassetmommer

I recently bought some ground flax seed. It's healthy.

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Sarah_402

Very interesting, thank you for the article:)

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RoxanneKidney in reply to Sarah_402

I bought some gummy supplements from CVS. Not all supplement have a high count.

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Michael__S

I have not found the time to read the article but I do believe in fibers quite a lot. I find it interesting how the soluble fibers are processed by the body and the main reason why I started to eat more fruits last spring. I can't tell it's the fibers (AFAIK there are lots of research/unknown about this) but I felt much better.

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RoxanneKidney in reply to Michael__S

THe article says it help with lower urea and creatinine.

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Michael__S in reply to RoxanneKidney

And more. They found that a patient could excrete significantly more potassium through stools with a diet higher in fibers but the exact mechanism are unknown. As in whether it prevent potassium from being absorbed or it's absorbed before being excreted.

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PecanSandie

I take Optifiber in my morning and afternoon tea. I also take Align which is a probiotic (and I have been taking for years). Neither is prescribed but I always tell me doctors and none of them has had any problem with these two supplements.

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Sophiebun11

I get the majority of my insoluble fiber from quinoa. It's a renal friendly seed that cooks up like a grain similar to rice. Very versatile and filling when served with low potassium veggies. Seeds are a great source of fiber, psyllium, chia, quinoa or others. It's good to see that research is being done.

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RoxanneKidney in reply to Sophiebun11

good suggestions. What caught my attention was that eating plants etc. I still didn't get the daily amount I should have had. Supplements have been good for me. Currently a cheap O psyllium one "Dr. Choice" Fiber capsules. 25 for a couple of bucks. And had a fair amount of fiber.

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Sophiebun11

It's interesting to look up different veggies, some have a good amount of fiber. For instance artichokes have 7mg fiber while 1 Tbl. of psyllium seeds only has 5mg. I love artichokes!! 1 cup of quinoa has 5mg but I usually have about 1 - 2 cups. While you should have around 25mg per day, if you add in salad, grain, and greens it can add up to enough. If you eat 5 things with approx. 5mg of fiber in each it's easy to get the recommended amount. Adding seeds is an easy way to make sure you get enough if you don't like or shouldn't eat the higher in fiber foods. I've never tried psyllium, I know my mom used to add chia seeds to her salads.

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RoxanneKidney

What facinated me lately were mushrooms. I had not idea that they had so much vit. D in them...lots of potassium as well, but plenty of D.

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doubleeagle

One level teaspoon of psyllium a day in 8oz water with stevia drops keeps me regular.

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RoxanneKidney

Good news. Supposed to help rid toxins.

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LuvSmallDogs

In my research I read that psyllium is high in potassium (I think it said 50 mg per tsp), and that Inulin powder was better recommended for kidney patients, unless you have no issues with potassium.

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RoxanneKidney

Thanks for that. Isn't the daily recommended dose for potassium 2000 mg? But I appreciate that. Mushrooms have a lot of potassium too which was disappointing to find out.

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urviigs

Add more high fiber foods in your daily life to control your weight.

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RoxanneKidney in reply to urviigs

I also take a fiber supplement. It is the only supplement I take. I need to find a good probiotic too.

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R-Nat

Have you tried Citrucel tablets? They don't create gas or bloating.

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RoxanneKidney in reply to R-Nat

I'll check those out

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Blackknight1989

I’ve taken a fiber supplement for years due to some stomach issues, good to hear they may benefits my kidneys too!

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