How much phosphorus?

[Bassetmommer]

My phosphorus recently rose up and now I am adding it my lengthy list of foods content to watch for. I was aware before, but now I am being hyper vigilant. I know we talked about cereal, and oatmeal here in this forum. But in my research, I cannot find a consistent answer to the question of how much phosphorus is actually in plain organic quick cook oats, one cup. I find a range of anywhere from 77 to 400 plus. The most consistent has been around 235 range. But...being a plant based food, do we only half of the actual phosphorus? I am struggling to find evidence based information that says so specifically for oatmeal. I have found that it is good for preventing kidney stones, is rich in other good nutrients and other benefits.

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[drmind]

Here's the nutritional info on quick cook Oatmeal showing phosphorus at 130 mg or 10%. But, its for a 1/2 cup dry. Not sure if thst would be 1 cup cooked. Hope this helps.

Serving Sizes

1/2 Cup Dry (40g)

Amount Per Serving

Calories150

% Daily Value*

Total Fat 3g4%

Saturated Fat 0.5g3%

Trans Fat 0g

Polyunsaturated Fat 1g

Monounsaturated Fat 1g

Cholesterol 0mg0%

Sodium 0mg0%

Total Carbohydrate 27g10%

Dietary Fiber 4g13%

Soluble Fiber 2g

Total Sugars 1g

Includes 0g Added Sugars0%

Protein 5g

Vitamin D 0mcg0%

Calcium 20mg0%

Iron 1.5mg8%

Potassium 150mg2%

Thiamine 0.2mg15%

Phosphorus 130mg10%

Magnesium 40mg10%

*The % Daily Value (DV) tells you how much a nutrient in a serving of food contributes to a daily diet. 2,000 calories a day is used for general nutrition advice.

Ingredients: Whole grain rolled oats.

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Last updated on October 12, 2020

[Bassetmommer NKF Ambassador in reply to drmind]

Thank you for the information. It is in line with what I have read. My question is that because it is plant based, do we absorb all the phosphorus?

[drmind in reply to Bassetmommer]

In 2nd paragraph from this DaVita message, it days that not all phosphorus from oatmeal is absorbed. Best..

blogs.davita.com/kidney-die...

[Bassetmommer NKF Ambassador in reply to drmind]

You are my hero. I could not get links to Davita to open as I had seen there was a post but what ever search engine I was on said the page had an error. I sort of felt this was true and that Oatmeal was getting a bum rap for being not good for CKD, when in fact it is a good source of plant based protein and fiber as long as it is not instant. So my dietician had told me plant based food only supply about 50-60 percent of the phosphorus listed. So at around 230mg per cup delivers still 115-120 mg of phosphorus. That can still be a lot, but when you make that one meal, its not bad. Thanks again.

[drmind in reply to Bassetmommer]

No problem. Good luck. How much phosphorous is too much? Or, are the accepted levels different for every stage of GFR? I love cooked oatmeal with blueberries for my daily breakfast.

[Bassetmommer NKF Ambassador in reply to drmind]

From what I read on various places, 800 to 1000 for renal impairment. That actually is a lot for a daily amount, I think. With a cup of oatmeal, you are only getting 12-15% of that which makes me think it is a winner. But only if you don't cover it in non diary creamer and then drink a cola with your meal. It all adds up. I have oatmeal with stevia sweetener and then pumpkin spice or cinnamon. I do add lite butter when I am eating it. But all that is less than 400 calories and the nutrients fit into my daily plan. And I only eat two meals a day. Now talk to me about cheese......that's a phosphorus bomb and I have had to give it up completely. sigh.....

[drmind in reply to Bassetmommer]

About the cheese: whipped cream cheese is good and I found that various brands of low fat Swiss cheese has less of everything. You may want to check it out. I'm in a rush now to do a grocery pickup, but I'll explore more late today or tomorrow and let you know.

[drmind in reply to drmind]

Im not a big cheese eater so im not sure how much is a happy serving . But, what I found was most low fat and low sodium cheese were lower in almost all other things. Here in Florida those were usually store brand cheeses. However. Jahlsberg has a low sodium swiss and Boars Head has a low sodium muenster. Not sure if those brands are around where you live. Incidentally, Boars Head has low sodium deli meats that are very good. However ,finding out the phosphorus levels of anything is a major problem. I may try calling a few companies and see if I can find out. Take care and happy holidays if i dont get in touch before.

[orangecity41 NKF Ambassador in reply to Bassetmommer]

Oatmeal is part of my CKD diet. Cooked Oatmeal 1/2 cup, so I do 1/4 cup dry. Following my diet, my phosphorus levels are within range (800-100mg per day). I also track my diet. I use AAKP Nutrition Counter.

[medway-lady]

Can you not ring your local Renal Hospital dietician ? around here we can and then you'd get properly informed advice.

[Bassetmommer NKF Ambassador in reply to medway-lady]

I wrote this on Sunday. But is another source I can ask.

[Jayhawker]

The renal dietician told me that more recent research shows that our bodies absorb much less phosphorous from natural whole grains like oatmeal than originally thought. I still eat a serving of steel cut oatmeal a day. My phosphorous is still find even with my PTH mildly elevated. I’ve got mild hyperparathyroidism now as a side effect of my renal function. Anyway, the renal dietician had no problem with me continuing to eat the oatmeal. Of course she looked at that within the context of all foods I eat daily. Jayhawker

[barneyfrances]

There is an excellent Phosphorous sheet that breaks down all phosphorous contents in easy to read and understand sheet by colour markings. The best I have seen after researching it for ages . Go into 'How much phosphorous is in what I eat ? ' The page will be Nottingham University Hospital = childrens' dietician.

[Bassetmommer NKF Ambassador in reply to barneyfrances]

Thanks, It was interesting to see the different foods that are not common to USA.