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Weight lifting and CKD

Ahmad_92
Ahmad_92
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Is there any one on this group who lift weight and how bad is it for kidney disease i am on stage 3b, as my doctor always says that exercise like walking and cycling is better but without reasonable explanation why.

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flanderscycling

Strenuous lifting is bad for kidney disease but using moderate exertion during weightlifting exercises can be beneficial to maintaining/building strength and muscle mass. Without these type of exercises, individuals with CKD will gradually see their strength and muscle mass decrease. Cardio is essential but you should also incorporate some weightlifting into your exercise plan.

Here's a link with a more thorough explanation of the benefits:

kidney.org/atoz/content/sta...

I've found that you can lift more than just very light weights as long as your not exerting too much energy when doing so. I'm also at Stage 3 and have been so for three years now with no decrease in kidney function. I personally like cycling the most. It's great to get outside, at time to bike with a group, and it's also helped a lot with my depression. Best of luck, my rule is to just do things and moderation and don't push yourself too hard.

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Ahmad_92

may i ask if you have protein in urine and BP ?

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flanderscycling

I've had protein in my urine for 3 years now far above the allowed range. My body weight and blood pressure have always been in the normal range. I have a specific disorder, C3GN, but I am now considered to have CKD since it has been several years since diagnosis and my Gfr has peaked at 50.

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HealthBuddyMelissa

I lift weights but I do low weight high reps. I do not go above 10 pounds. Lifting weights causes the muscle breakdown that increases creatinine. Plus it can raise your bloodpressure. However lifting weights is also extremely good for your bones and maintaining strength.

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Ahmad_92

have you been lifting for a long time or let me ask if you started after the diagnosis, as i did not lift for 1 year before diagnoses and my numbers now are stable for more than one year and that makes me a bit afraid to play with my GFR

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HealthBuddyMelissa

I did start lifting after I was diagnosed. You have to be careful not to damage the muscle. So if your objective is to build big muscles probably not a good idea. But if you just want to tone and maintain muscle that you have lifting light weights is perfect. I will see if I can find the article that convinced me it was safe as long as I stayed within guidelines. My numbers have stayed the same with some improvement. I am probably at baseline since I had failing kidney for years and no one diagnosed it or advised me to to make diet corrections.

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Ahmad_92

I am not into building muscles but I want to maintain mine as the plant based diet made me lose weight

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HealthBuddyMelissa

This is long but it is good. It is important to remember to monitor your heart rate and keep in the low to moderate range no matter the exercise you are doing. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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Marvin8

Nephrologists have no idea as to how much is too much and how little is too little. I've done a LOT of research on the subject and the supporting studies just aren't there. Sorry.

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KidneyCoach
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I've known a couple of professional weightlifters who maintained CKD status for 20 years prior to dialysis. I did mild weightlifting of under 100 lbs during my first few years of dialysis without issues. It's never really been studied so there's little information. Blessings

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Ahmad_92

that's inspiring, i always look at physical activity as a positive thing as long as you can do it, so that is why i think that my nephrologist need to explain it more

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apopnj01
apopnj01
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i rip it - 70 lb dumb bell presses for 4 sets of 15-20 reps - im 52 - gfr at time was 53 a few weeks back and was the time i went in for blood test and physical - maybe i should tone it down a bit and do more HITT exercises-

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Marvin8
Marvin8
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I think researchers will eventually agree that long term kidney health requires a a good balance between protein intake and protein metabolism/catabolism. If that balance gets out of whack for too long a period of time, you damage your kidneys, and once the kidneys are damaged, maintaining a proper balance is even more imporant. Eat more protein that your body needs for muscle repair and you'll further damage your kidneys. Eat less protein than your body needs and you'll end up catabolizing your muscles and that will also cause further damage. It's all about balancing needs vs intake. Work out more and you can metabolize more protein and vice versa.

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apopnj01
apopnj01
in reply to Marvin8

there is protein from veggies that is supposed to be good for you

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Marvin8
Marvin8
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All protein is good for you. It's just that some types (animal) are supposedly harder on the kidneys. Veggie protein is good if you supplement every now and then with lysine, although if you are on a low oxalate diet, it is a bit more challenging being a vegetarian...ie...low nuts, peas, beans.

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C_B_B

I have been weightlifting more than 500lb / 250k twice per week with no adverse affect to my stage 4 CKD? I also eat way more protein than is recommended (200g per day) and I have yet to see a decrease in my Egfr... yet. It's been almost 12 months since I started taking my lifting seriously ? I too, am a petite 100lb female... sooo. Who knows. that's just my personal experience so far.

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Ahmad_92
Ahmad_92
in reply to C_B_B

that is great but how do you get your protein (Vegetarian or animal ) and do you have protein in urine ?

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C_B_B

Two whey protein shakes per day and mainly red-meat based as I'm a meat eater and to date, no protein in my urine. Occassional unusually high creatine in my U and E function but only ever temporary?

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Ahmad_92
Ahmad_92
in reply to C_B_B

maybe you are not in the same condition i am in, as since i stopped eating red meat i have a better number and i always have protein in my urine.

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HealthBuddyMelissa

If you still have protein in your urine then you may be consuming too much protein than your kidney can filter. You have to eat enough protein to keep all your muscles functioning properly but not too much that your kidneys can't get rid of all of it. It is a balancing act but once you find the right amount you will know it. Try eating more plant based protein for most of your protein needs and cut way back on meat based protein.

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Ahmad_92

Actually I consume 90 percent of my protein from plant based food and it helps a lot in protein leaking but does not stop it even when I try very low protein diet I still have proteinuria but 75% less.

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C_B_B
C_B_B
in reply to Ahmad_92

I'll let you know after i get the results of my monthly kidney function πŸ˜‰

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flanderscycling

Whatever you do, don't take protein shakes. You still need to be on a lower protein diet and avoid processed foods such as whey protein powders. A plant based diet is the way to go with some meat in order to get the necessary B12 in order to function.

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Marvin8

Muscle strength is somewhat correlated to muscle size. If you're happy with your muscle strength, don't lift more than the minimum necessary to maintain. Better to increase reps to fatigue the muscle than to increase the weight, but if anything more than minor soreness is the result, you've probably done too much. It's really a delicate balancing act. I'm a 61 yr old male and am fairly muscular for my age group. I don't want to see my strength diminish to the point of only being able to lift 10lb weights. Again, doctors really don't know very much about all this stuff.

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ReidB

I'm 47 yrs old, been at CKD stage 2 since I found out 4 yrs ago, I've lifted weights for over 20 years. I do bodybuilding type of workouts with weights and some days I go heavy, but I just try to do it in moderation but still get a good workout and maintain my muscle size and strength. I don't lift weights on consecutive days, I always take a day off before lifting again. I don't have protein in my urine. I get my protein from my food, which is mainly chicken and fish. I do eat red meat about once a week or once every 2 weeks. I drink plenty of water, and drink water only about 99% of the time.

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