Who is actually looking for a cure? Certainly not the pharmaceutical companies. There isn't enough money in a cure.
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I always wonder why people say this. There’s a lot of people with MS, and if you have the cure then you can sell it for whatever you like. Sounds like bank to me.
inclined to agree with that logic, you would have an immediate market of several milllion worldwide then multiply that by S?K and you have a lot of $$$
Not only that, but new MS patients are born every day. To cure one autoimmune disease without knowing how it even works...then, I could likely cure all the others also. I would be taking a daily money bath 🤣 💰 🛀
Even developing a preventive treatment, like a vaccine, might be $ for someone...although vaccines are not typically $ makers and have to be subsidized by the govt 🤷♀️
So kdali what was the fb post? Preclinical trials about what?
Mary
Hey Mary! LifNano Therapeutics posted an update that they were on track to their projected clinical trial for nano therapy with MS in 2020. I wish someone on here was from Italy and in the trial and willing to tell all 😂
Kdali yes I saw the blog for lif nano therapeutics. Thought other people on MSAA might be interested. Su Metcalfe is from the Univerity of Cambridge. Are they doing the trials in Italy?
Mary
Amen. ❤🌷
there is no cure as they do not even have\know a cause yet.
Multiple causes...multiple cures?
Targeted gene therapy like the cancer cures we have now? 🤔 No wait, that won’t cure MS, just stop it. Nano therapy?
now that is a very good theory
I look at it as:
(1) first, they still need to figure out what causes MS and how the disease works
(2) then they might be able to develop treatments that work for sure, and understand why (today, DMTs kind of work, but not for everybody, not 100%, and they don't know why)
(3) then they'll be able to devise a cure or a treatment that stop the disease
So much progress has been made. I am positive about the overall direction.
I think we also need to be realistic. Many diseases don't have a cure but have good treatment to manage the disease. Best example: diabetes type 2.
I’ve been wondering why there’s no poly-pill yet? Are they doing research on combining DMTs with differing mechanisms of action? Like treating high bp, using antihypertensives that target different things can be more successful that pushing 1 antihypertensive to max dose.
Ok, I’m rambling...
Yes, probably the most frightening thing after being told "You have MS" was being told there was no cure, no pill, no surgery, to fix it. I was dumbfounded. How in the world can there be a treatment for HIV but not MS? It's been around ALOT longer than HIV. Is it because when HIV was first found it was mainly affecting men?
HIV has better marketing and propaganda than us. Remember we are supposed to be a woman's disease.
I live in Fort Wayne, Indiana and just last night was at a local college that has a medical building in it where there is a Dr. Lee in it and that is ALL he is studying. He has a bunch of people working with him. In fact he just got a 1 million dollar grant for his research. It was funny because a big thing that jumped out at me is he is finding that eating broccoli and taking fish oil capsules are (cheap) ways to recreate what he is finding in his lab. It was most interesting!
Please tell us more about this. Any links to his research? His name and college?
Oh, I found some of the information in my purse. Dr. Jimmy Yen, IUSM-Fort Wayne. He's had some papers published on this information.
Look here: medicine.iu.edu/faculty/222...
What about the induction therapies? If they're not cures, at least it looks like they really help if taken early enough.
If there is a cure, it would take at least 20 years to know for sure.
Hmmmm, interesting that you might think that when there isn't even a cure for the common cold. Its not just MS and I think it's pretty disrespectful to say that others that have it their life's work to try and help others are not trying to do just that. It saddens me when others throw out accusations espically when the MS society spends some 40 million dollars annually on MS research. Yeah, we have MS, yes it ruined out lives to an extent. I was a millionaire in 2009, MS fixed that! From pauper to Prince back to pauper again. It happens and I think it's really disrespectful attacking those trying to help. Yeah, maybe there's some pharma companies making some money in the process but to lump it all together like that? Here's an idea, you can boycott pharmaceutical companies and not take any medicine.
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Scoliosis
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Trigeminal Neuralgia – A chronic pain condition that affects the trigeminal or 5th cranial nerve, one of the most widely distributed nerves in the head. There is no true cure for the disease, but it can be treated.[51]
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Great response Allen5280 ! I think we sometimes get tunnel vision and forget there are so many other equally debilitating chronic diseases without cures and some without any treatment.
It's pretty easy to get lost in our own misery and pain. I certainly have and probably a pretty good chance I will again at various times. I'm in the process of once again attempting to pull myself up out another round of deep depression that I find myself slipping into from time to time. If I was a little harsh on my response to no one wants to help, well I can't deal with a place of "no one cares and there is no hope" that and I have known a pharmaceutical scientist and she was a pretty great person. So I may have taken this post to heart. It's the second time I've seen a similar post the first I was able to keep it to myself, this time, I could not.
It might be just me Allen5280 but I believe that these discussions need different points of view as long as they are respectful. Your response was respectful IMO and wasn't the only one to inject some balance into the discussion.
I try to always be respectful of others for it's a big reason pur society is in such turmoil. I partially regretted the boycott comment but I meant it. I can not argue that costs of medications have gone crazy but there are some many factors that it can't be nailed down to just one simple deal. It's quite complex issue and to say they want to keep us sick... well... if someone has evidence of such behavior by anyone I would hope they would have the courage to do something about it... if it's just someone's opinion, well, try and think of those whom they would be insulting. The brightest of minds in attempts to relieve of our affliction. What those people may have to go through.. like animal rights activists, spray painting their cars and houses with profane remarks because they use mice to test the medications before putting them into a person for safety. Having to move for fear of their lives by those whom don't stop at words and become violent. Hey they continue to look for cures. That fear that they have undergone.. if I was a specialist at that and saw a post where someone accused me of this... I might ho into work the next day and say ok, the MS people don't appreciate what I'm trying to do so I'm going to focus on Lupus, the week right before they would have made the breakthrough. So... really... someone have the evidence? So we can take it to the right place and get things fixed? Or just an oppinion? Well, words hurt, they cut and some things just can't be taken back.
I think we will have to look to other countries.
Wow I just joined the conversation. Some great and passionate positions. I've had this ongoing love/hate relationship with Big Pharma since I was diagnosed. I couldn't understand how in the world our country could place a man on the moon and be the richest and most powerful country in the world and not be able to find a cure for some of these chronic illnesses that has plaqued us for generations. There are a lot of meds that just treat the symptoms of the disease and help us have a better"quality"life. And my bittersweet love contined until I met a lady at a MS fundraiser and she just broke down when sharing with me that her mom was diagnosed with MS before there were any meds for MS and her family watched her slowly succumbing to the disease. So this is my long way of sharing where I am now. I appreciate all the medical options and ongoing research. I pray we're blessed with a cure for MS and other chronic illnesses soon. In the meantime I do my best to educate myself and keep moving forward. Thanks for the discussion
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I am always hopeful for a cure to 'ms', but I think that the focus should be in prevention and early detection. That goes for all diseases that plague humankind. Why the lengthy wait? I am impatient, but that is sometimes how it goes.
What do I do to pass the time away? Well, for one, I would LOVE to be part of the cure!
I engage in open dialogue with my doctor/medical team,
Sign up, if I am eligible, for 'ms' trials,
Journal/note everything (this one is not one that I do religiously),
Take care of myself (diet, sleep, exercise),
Keep a very optimistic attitude,
Learn as much as I can,
Surround myself with precious friends/family 
to keep me on an even keel!
Like Allen5280 so eloquently replied, so much is being done to further research 'ms', and it is sometimes not fruitful towards a cure, but try to find a cure, they do. I remain ever so hopeful, and if it were only about the $$$, then why find a cure for any disease. Think about it. erash said it well 'multiple causes ~ multiple cures?' Yes, I think that there is some truth to that.
Great discussion and it is wonderful to have discussions about this. Perhaps talk to your neuro/doctor about ways that you can be engaged in positive conversation/action to assist in finding a cure!
Keep Smiling and Stay Strong,
Carole
I’m glad you mentioned being part of the solution! I (and thus, V) was eager to be a research subject for MS while pregnant and I hope all of our personal data is able to be used in future studies also. There are many other studies out there and each one of us has something to contribute to research at some point, if not several, in our MS journey.
And if not to find a cure for me, then to advance the research to give hope to millions of others after me
Bravo kdali and carolek572 , 👏 I applaud the both of you looking to be apart of the solution.
I think I might have it soon! Researching & Experimenting with one of our friends who's a licensed Nutitional Doctor, just hang in there, & we'll see, already am improving from PPMS into RRMS, I have a neuro. Appnmnt next mo. & i think a new MRI, so we'll See...💚💙💛💗❤Love Ya'all!👍💐Blessings---Jazzy🌹💜
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