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There is still a carnival here every year in June and the Duffield 5 (miles) is part of the carnival week. I first ran it with my children on the strength of my netball fitness in 1997 and don't remember what happened except that the children had t-shirts for finishing and I received a silver coaster. (Still use it as a pepper mill stand) Then I didn't run it again until running 'came into my life' when I was 61. So I ran it in 2019 and 2023. Covid cancelled 2020 and injury prevented me running in 2021 and 2022. So what would 2024 bring? Firstly, a change of route and a forecast temperature of 28℃. The change of route happened so a long road was left out and we ran more field paths, trails and climbed more stiles instead. More beautiful even if generally this caused everyone to take a little longer. Happily the temperature was 25 ℃, not 28 ℃.

I taught a year 10 lad from 4pm to 5:30pm. He was due to run in the Duffield 5 too, just like last year. During our maths lesson a friend messaged me to inform us that she would be squirting water at me during the race with another friend of hers and they would squirt my pupil too. Quite a lot of folk on squirting 'duty' this year which I find great fun. My friend doesn't normally take part in the squirting, but I had expressed concern that the change of route meant that we wouldn't pass the lads that had had super soakers out in their front gardens. Although we had much less road, we now passed my friend's house.

Shall I wear a hat or not? I never wear a hat while running to protect from heat as I invariably run in the cool before breakfast. I decided to take a hat and put it on depending on need and tuck it in my flip belt if I didn't need it. No idea if it would stay on. We were not that prompt walking to the primary school where the run starts. I just about managed to collect my number, pin it on, work through my warming up routine and play hunt people I know. We found our opposite neighbour but my next door neighbours were missing. Didn't spot my maths pupil either. Ah well ... Did see lots of runners from from a club called Derwent Runners. The name was across their running tops.

I had thought about pace. My injury troubles have meant I need to restrain from increasing my effort too much, well where should my pace be exactly, certainly not 8 and above out of 10? Somehow with the 28℃ forecast, my ideas on pace were probably not possible, I always want to improve on my previous time irrespective of my knee troubles. I really need to change this mind set. Why do I still want to beat previous times, I have been battling knee issues and I am 67? Also had a period of keeping my average heart rate below 128bpm to protect my knee. This meant some walking and since reverting to my more usual running, hardly any speed runs. Ideas on changing this 'must go faster' mind set appreciated. So I didn't have the clearest of plans, except perhaps to aim for 7 min/km for the first km.

I see that we had 208 finishers this year and one of those was disqualified. I have no idea what happened there. Most odd for something listed as a Family Fun Run. Last year we had 273 finishers. My husband and I had thought there looked to be less starters perhaps due to the 28 ℃ forecast. I actually decided that there was enough cloud cover and passed my hat to my husband. I don't really want any gubbins on the my runs. So the race began with the usual lap around the school playing field and I found it so hard to get my pace down to 7 mins/km, so odd when my usual running pace is much slower, my first km was 6min 48sec. I was very near the back and found myself chatting with two ladies who said they had only been running for 9 weeks. This run at 8.36km and 207m elevation gain seemed rather too much for just 9 weeks of running! I see from the results that they did finish. Well done to them. I am obviously not up to the easy chatting during races that a number of folk have talked about in their run reports, I think I need all my energy for running. But I'm glad that I managed some chatting. Always lovely in the early residential areas where folk are supporting and know me so call out my name. Too many saying well done, when from quite early on I didn't feel that I was doing well at all. Once the hills began, my pace was whatever I could manage. Which included more walking that I would really like. I never used to walk these hills. Ah well....

I enjoyed putting my recently learnt down hill skills into practice and remembered not to sprint like I had in my half marathon (seriously a very bad nutcase idea). As much of the route is not near houses there were marshalls here and there but no supporters. Water at half way of which I drank a little and poured lots over me. The new route includes part of one of my favourite running routes and the photo above, taken one April, is part of the new route. So on and on we went.

Along my friend's road, uphill, much squirting. I pressed on and did increase my pace here and there and even looked a bit like a runner in the photos my husband took near the finish line. We are still having technical problems with my phone and computer, so I don't think I shall be including race photos. Literally just learnt a new detail. As I came into the school playing field there was someone just behind me, I had no idea. My husband told me that I pulled away from her as we neared the finish line which his photos show. I was just too whacked out to be aware of anything, even though I could run and up my pace. Strange really ... I did receive my medal and this is where things become rather hazy. I just about remember some one giving me a little square with a number on it. I just wanted to sit down and then, in fact, lie flat on my back! I have never done this before. A friend wanted to greet me but saw me in a poorly state so went home and left me to my husband. My maths pupil messaged me the next day "I did see you finish, was going to come over but you were collapsed on the floor. 🤣" My husband couldn't find me. He was looking for someone standing up. Happily he did find me after a hunt. Some children were singing our "Open the Book" song as I am part of the Open the Book team. I was just too worn out to respond. My husband smiled at them. Happily, after I don't know how long, I regained my ability to stand up. We went to the Mega Vets (over 60s) results table to see what we could discover and, of course, they wanted my little square with my presumably, finishing position. I had no idea where it was. Just vanished. Anyway they put put me as third out of the three lady Mega vets. The other two ladies were both super vets last year so I assume they are 'only' 60. Anyway a few days later when the full results came out I had been promoted to second place! Not so good for the other lady, but perhaps she didn't pay much attention and was just happy to take part. I had wondered that if I had lost my finish number I wouldn't have an official placing or time. The event has been running for years so I expect the organisers can cope well with most eventualities. The results also showed me that another of my pupils ran too. Hadn't spotted her either. For those of you interested in goody bags and cake, perhaps because there is just a £5 entry fee, goody bags and cake or other food do not feature.

Sadly my non-injured knee is causing me problems and so I haven't run since last Monday's race. It is improving and I am really hoping to run on Tuesday. On reflection if I ever feel up to another half marathon, I would like it to perhaps be three months before the Duffield 5, not just 6 weeks. Currently I want to run in the Duffield 5 as long as I am able. It really is a lovely community event and it is just so good to take part in it. Even realise the taking part is 'the thing' and my time doesn't matter so much. 😊🏃🏻‍♀️

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cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon

Gosh over61, didn’t you do well? I hope I get a Brucie Bonus for that!

It sounds like hard work, especially in the heat. 25 degrees sounds plenty hot enough, let alone 28. I bet you were mighty relieved the forecast was slightly out 🙏

I admire your grit and determination. You deserved to finish well, and the fact you collapsed on the ground meant you were giving it your all. Huge congratulations! Hope you’ve been able to look back on that with pride. 🏅🏅🏅

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Thank you cheekychipmunks. Certainly very happy with 25 ℃ instead of 28. I didn't actually feel that I collapsed, just that I really wanted to lay down! It was my maths pupil who used the collapsed word. Teenage lads! Even sending me a laughing emoji. But it made me laugh afterwards, delayed enjoyment perhaps😊 I'm still not at all sure that I did well. I suppose my usual runs on a fair amount of the Duffield 5 route are at an easy conversational pace, so it is not a surprise that I don't find the need to walk except for the steepest parts. Perhaps instead of pace or time, being totally worn out should be my measure of enjoyment 😂🤣😂

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon

Two epic events here; the run and the write up 🙂. Is there a clue as to one possible source of your post run fatigue in the words “drank a little “? I wouldn’t usually drink on a 5 mile run, but in that heat maybe I would have done. Bottom line, you just felt a bit knackered at the finish, which is no surprise as your legs were clearly pushing the pace in semi auto pilot mode, and it was very hot. It is just so good to see you running races again, and completing them well too.

Over here in Scilly it is only reaching 18 degrees, so I am running without water (but with cap) and my AHR on runs is way down in comparison with mainland levels. I don’t like heat; so well done you for going out in those conditions. Given a choice, I would be running at 7am in the face of a forecast 25c plus.

Another race completed with just a little bleating from your knee….you really deserve your success >61, and long may it continue 👏👏👏👏🏆🥇

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Thank you Beachcomber. In my defence I drank masses of water before the event and I think drank more at two spectator tables. Enjoyed taking a beaker from a little girl who looked about three or four. This was very near the beginning, but she was so adorable I wanted to support her efforts. Table of drinks outside her house, I expect. I like your semi auto pilot mode, yes that is probably most apt. I'm sure I hardly knew what I should be doing, let alone what I did. I really didn't find it too warm. It seemed cool compared to earlier in the day. My running vest thingy is both very baggy and very thin. Shortest possible socks and reject baggy short shorts from my daughter. It is odd how my injured knee is doing so much better but my other one is troubling me. Deep flexion has gone and getting down to the ground and up again is a challenge. It clearly didn't enjoy the pounding, even though I wore knee supports on both knees. Neither knee complained during the run at all. All fun isn't it? Enjoy your holiday 😊

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

We all have our routines to deal with the issues we accumulate over the years. Hot water bottle for my knees, between run TLC for calves, and post run stretches are my current priorities. Just thankful that I can run at all 🙂

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

I'm not sure at the moment whether my knee will say yes or no to running tomorrow. All part of the journey. I have plenty of knee physio exercises to work at (started again this morning) and I am confident that my knee is improving. So I am hopeful that I shall soon join you with the 'thankful that I can run at all' soon. 😊

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grumpyoldgirl

What a brilliant run report! It's a while since I got to that distance (still working on it), and I can imagine I'd find it really difficult to get the pacing right, especially in heat.I had to laugh when you said you were "not that prompt" for the start. I'm going to use that line - it will come in very handy as I'm frequently not that prompt 😁

You obviously had a blast.

Well done 🙌🏼

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to grumpyoldgirl

I am so very sorry that even though your original injury was presumably 2020 when I had my significant wall fall, but you are still battling on. Keep hoping and doing the best with what you can do as I am sure you are. I did have a blast really although perhaps most of it in hindsight. 🤣 It is strange that I really wasn't aware of it being hot, just me being on the done in side. I suppose that my brain wasn't up to linking the two 😂🤣😂

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grumpyoldgirl in reply to over61andstilltrying

Yes 2020!!! I keep re-injuring the thing (always the same foot, you'd think I'd learn) plus covid stopped me a couple of times. The latest is that I went over on it pegging out washing and my foot found a dip in the ground 🙄

Thinking about your knee, I went to a physio once about one ankle playing up (before big injury) and she put it down to me overusing that side to compensate for a strain on the other side! So could be something like that going on with you.

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to grumpyoldgirl

I have heard about this before. I am fairly confident that my Achilles tendon trouble on my left was a result of my knee injury on the right. The lady who lives opposite me had the same situation. Have any of your physios asked you to stand on one leg with your eyes closed?

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grumpyoldgirl in reply to over61andstilltrying

Not with eyes shut no, but my pilates teacher does every so often. Last time (a couple of weeks ago) I couldn't do it at all with my eyes shut, but my balance is shot anyway because of rubbish sinuses. It did make me realise that I've slowly let the balancing exercises lapse. I used to do them every day and it makes a huge difference. I've started them again but a bit too soon for much improvement.

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to grumpyoldgirl

I do them while brushing my teeth. I sprained my ankle pretty badly by landing on someones foot in a netball match. Blue all round and couldn't support my weight. I followed all the advice carefully and although alright for walking and driving, if I started running, even after some months, I would ' go over' on it and it swelled up again. I was subsequently referred to a physiotherapist and that's when I heard about the eyes closed single leg standing. Apparently the muscles have to work so much harder if we are not receiving visual stimulation. Full healing came not long after. Here's to full healing soon and no more re-injuring your ankle. 😊

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grumpyoldgirl in reply to over61andstilltrying

I'm going to try it. Thank you for the suggestion 🥰

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to grumpyoldgirl

I do hope it helps. I wonder how many seconds you can hold it for? One of my physios encouraged me to complete all the exercises with both legs ( one leg at a time obviously! 😂) which has been my habit ever since. I look forward to good news 😊

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grumpyoldgirl in reply to over61andstilltrying

Well, I can't hold it for long with eyes closed, I'm going to have to think about this one. But yes to both legs, my favourite physio (NHS fracture clinic so no longer available to me sadly) told me to start with the weak leg, then repeat on the stronger leg for the same amount of time.

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to grumpyoldgirl

Can you manage 5 seconds?😊Because my first physios didn't encourage both legs, I became aware that my injured leg became better at some things compared to the other one. I always give both my legs physio

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grumpyoldgirl in reply to over61andstilltrying

I think closing my eyes is out, there's too much danger of me toppling over! I've started an exercise where I stand on one leg, then touch my other toe to the ground like the four points of the compass. Forward, cross over in front, out to the side, and back. Repeat for as long as I can stay up, then the other foot. I'm hoping this will have the same effect as closing my eyes.

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SueAppleRun10 Miles

That all sounds rather fast to me, so I'm full of (happy) envy and so pleased for you. From what you say about sitting down then laying down after took me back to the New Forest 10k where I just found a bit of grass and sat once finished, what a beautiful place to run and lovely to be able to do it annually. Huge well done 👏👏👏 to you

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to SueAppleRun

Thank you 😊 That view is very near our house so I can enjoy it throughout the year, really blessed to live here 😊 Although it does mean that long easy flat routes don't exist unless I want to drive somewhere, which I only do very, very rarely. Just once in the last year, I think. I certainly just sat down as soon as possible after my half marathon, but this time it seemed that nothing except lying down would do. 😂

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SueAppleRun10 Miles in reply to over61andstilltrying

Lying down was needed then, it's lovely, I'm the opposite, I can run flat all round here and there are steep slopes between paths at the seafront but to find hills I'd have to drive, I think for now I'll continue sprints up the seafront slopes for now

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to SueAppleRun

Sea front slopes sounds special. Here in Derbyshire we are a long way from the sea. And yes, it was odd but nothing other than lying down seemed the right thing on that day 😊

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SueAppleRun10 Miles in reply to over61andstilltrying

When you have to lay down you have to lay down 😁especially at our age ,😂

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to SueAppleRun

Definitely 😊

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misswobbleMarathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

which is why I love running at the seaside when given the chance. I think I’m off to Welsh seaside shortly 🤗🏃‍♀️🌊

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon

That looks absolutely beautiful. No wonder you want to run this every year.

I love all the squirting references 🤣 and I’m not surprised you wanted some in those temperatures! You did incredibly well to run and finish it, albeit with a little lie-down at the end. I did giggle when you said that your husband couldn’t find you because he was looking for a person standing up 😂

Great report, I loved reading it. A huge well done to you for the run and the report 👍👏

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Thank you so much. 😊 That view is very near our house so I can enjoy it throughout the year, really blessed to live here 😊 When I passed my friend she shouted , 'We've got to get this one!' Squirt, squirt. Squirt, squirt! I'm still laughing about a number of aspects. I think my husband was genuinely concerned, my baggy running vest top is an apricot colour and should be so easy to spot, but not if I am not in his field of vision. Your comment made us both laugh. As I think I have said somewhere I wasn't really aware of the heat, it seemed cooler than it had been earlier in the day, especially as it had clouded over, it was just a, 'Oh dear I think that I am a bit worn our' feeling from far too early on.

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

Beautiful views 😍

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon

Goodness! You must have put everything into that O61!!! The combination of heat and running at an unusual time of daya re likely to blame for the 'collapse'.

A huge well done to you on nabbing that 2nd place position.

If you find any words of wisdom (that work) on not chasing ever better times ... do please let me know because I have the same issue!!!

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Oops I think that I replied in the wrong place! Should have learnt by now! Try again.

Thank you 😊 I'm pleased to say that when I looked at my husband's photo I could clearly see the number of the lady behind me and the final results agreed. The other mega vet lady came in next. I'm sure the error in the provisional results were due to my lying down session! 😂 I really have received a lot of fun from this run, with some of it has being only in hindsight, so I'm pleased to say that the taking part seemed more important than the time. More challenging route so any time is a PB for this route 😊 Perhaps a pity that my Garmin can't measure fun! 😂

Might have been right after all. Some people ...

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon

I love local races 🥰. Well done! 🔥👍🏅. I hope you’re recovering well and will soon be back out there 🙂🤗🏃‍♀️

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to misswobble

Thank you 😊 Perhaps you'll come over next year. 😊I really appreciated your support in the morning. If you ran your fastest 5 miles did you need some days off afterwards? I wore knee supports on both knees for the Duffield 5. I had started feeling trouble in my left (non injured knee) and was already wearing a support for at least 4 runs before the race. During the race I don't remember a problem, but clearly my efforts really aggravated my knee such that full flexion isn't now possible and getting down to ground level and up again is a real challenge. Walking was hurting too 😔 It has improved, I had theses troubles with my injured knee so I have plenty of physio exercises to work at. I ran for the first time this morning kept my heart rate down to reduce impact. Pain in my knee, but I chose to carry gently on. Felt so good to be running again, big grin on my face.

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misswobbleMarathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

Hi shug 👋. I ran on theThursday - another 8k. I walked the borrowed dog on the Wednesday 🙂🐕 I’ve done no speed work since the 24th June though but I can’t keep keep putting it off as I’ve got a hill race on the agenda.

Keep heading out on your local trails and enjoying yourself. If you have time take a picnic 🙂🏃‍♀️👍

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to misswobble

🤣 By the way the fastest female mega vet took 51 minutes 42 sec for the course. 😊

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misswobbleMarathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

There are some speedy older ladies out there. It never ceases to amaze me. Keeps me wanting to turnout 😀🏃‍♀️

aliboo70 profile image
aliboo70Half Marathon

That was a great read! 😊beautiful scenery in your photo, very well done to you and here's to many more years ahead doing this one 😀 x

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to aliboo70

Thank you 😊 I was the oldest lady this year and one year I was the only lady over 60. This year there were 8 over 60 men but I don't know their ages. We don't know how long our health will enable running do we? But I hope to keep going as long as I can 😊🏃🏻‍♀️

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misswobbleMarathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

I didn’t start running til late so I’m making up for lost time 😁🏃‍♀️ Here’s to you ☕️💪

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministrator

Phew !!! Lying down on the job... and no wonder! Just fantastic!

HUGE WELL DONE !!!

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to Oldfloss

Aw thank you 😊

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