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Spring 2020 Half Marathon Group ๐Ÿ˜„ Pacing!

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Hi groovy runners!

How has the training gone this past week? The weather has been fabulous down in Hove and I have been making the most of it - including getting a 10K PB, go meeee!!!!!!

Thank you to everyone who took part in our recent poll, and/or provided us with topics on my last post. Keep them coming!

One of the most popular topics was PACING, which I will attempt to address here ๐Ÿ˜Š

A quick point I want to make before I start is that I realise that when asking about pacing some people are really talking about SPEED. We have already covered the topics of speed intervals and hill training in a previous post here:

healthunlocked.com/marathon...

Such workouts are usually included in a training plan to help improve your strength, gait & posture, and leg turnover - all of which should ultimately enhance your speed.

But to sustain a greater average speed for the entirety of a race is not easy! Learning to understand how to pace yourself, and implementing a pacing strategy, can really help you make the most out of your half marathon - whether you want to be fast or just finish.

โ˜… PREPARATION

GPS watches

Using your GPS watch is really useful for getting a particular pace per split during your run. I am relatively new to the running watch world, and I have been really enjoying some very even splits during my recent training runs. However, it is often the case that we canโ€™t keep that desirable pace up for the whole of our run, so how can we deal with that?

Changing your pace during the run, and running by feel

Plan some of your runs to alternate your pace for each split (km, mile etc.), or gradually increase your pace for each split. Really notice how you feel as you progress, and make a note of it - learn to run by feel. This will help you to regulate your pace more effectively during your half marathon.

Practice running โ€œnegative splitsโ€ during training - purposely running the second half faster than the second. Practice โ€œsurgingโ€ (short periods of running just a bit faster), or โ€œstridesโ€ (run fast, but not all-out, for short periods during or at the end of a run). Try a sprint finish at the end of run. These are good for improving speed, but they also will really help you learn to push yourself when you are flagging.

runnersworld.com/training/a...

Include some steady-paced runs too

30 minutes to an hour running consistently at a โ€œcomfortably hardโ€ effort (often called a โ€œtempo runโ€) can help a great deal with endurance. If you are looking to PB you should also include some runs or long intervals at your target race pace.

Preparing for particular features of your half marathon

If your course is quite hilly you may wish to take advantage of the downhill sections! To do this you should practice running fast downhill, work on your technique and your quad strength. If your course is flat, or has long, flat sections, as mentioned in previous posts be sure to include some long flat runs in your training.

Pigheadedness

Make yourself keep going when you want to stop! I have just got an indoor bike trainer, and I think this will be great for working on pushing myself onward - a treadmill would present the same opportunity. And for outdoor runs, hills are great for this. Make yourself keep going even if you are beetroot and puffing like a train - five more minutes on the indoor bike or treadmill, keep going up the hill to the next tree, etc. etc.

โ˜… RACE STRATEGY

Ease into the run

Above all else, remember not to start off too fast! Itโ€™s easy to say... and difficult to do. But practising running by feel will really help. If you go rushing off you will quickly find that you get out of breath, so when that happens slow down and compose yourself. It should go without saying that you can practice this in training too, and at parkrun, and at a tune-up 10k race if you have one planned. If youโ€™re working on a pb you wonโ€™t want to begin too slowly either, so find a sensible starting pace, and donโ€™t start too far back in the pack! Also, it is very helpful if you start the race warm, because being cold can make you want to hurry at the start. Practice warming up for your race during training - a 1.5 km jog, and some dynamic stretching perhaps, before your run. A lot of events actually have a warm-up session before the start, which can be a lot of fun!

Here is my usual warm-up info link: runnersconnect.net/why-shou...

Plan your splits

For hilly races in particular, you can plan to be slower in some parts and quicker in others to get your desired average pace. You may want to know at what sort of time you can expect to be at each water station (for example) to achieve a certain pace. A very useful device is a pacing band - check out Lindaโ€™s here:

healthunlocked.com/marathon...

Plan your food and drink

Youโ€™ve all heard about practicing eating and drinking on your training runs by now! Your eating and drinking strategy can really help you pick up your pace. Learn when you typically start to run out of energy on the run and be sure to eat something before it happens! Practising eating on the run, drinking from a cup, or taking a sip of your own drink, all will help you maintain your stride during the half marathon. And a little treat every now and then can work wonders for the moraleโ€ฆ and your pace!

And remember that final kick!

Provided you are feeling OK when you get near the finish line (if you have a niggle please be sensible and take it more slowly) you will be so proud of yourself if you go for a little sprint finish! With a few steps to go, why not try it? You can always sit down afterwards ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š

โ˜… HASTINGS HALF MARATHON - A CASE STUDY ๐Ÿ˜„

We had a question from pianoteacher about pacing for a sub-2 hour Hastings Half Marathon specifically. PT and I both ran this race last year, and the post illustration is from my Strava record of it - so you can all see what the difficulty was!

strava.com/activities/22368...

Brighton and Hove gives me ample opportunity to train on hills, and I planned the majority of my runs to have some hills included. I did not have a running watch at that time, so all my runs were by feel. I took advantage of the fact that running downhill can feel like an easy effort even at quite a fast pace, so I was able to practice fast downhills during long slow runs. I also pushed myself to run at faster paces uphill every week, and included race-pace runs.

For the race itself, my strategy was just to keep going without walking, and to run downhill as fast as possible. For the first few km of the race there are some short sharp up and down bits, and I did capitalise on my fresh legs just a little. After that there is a long section of steady uphill (Queensway), which I checked out on Google street view to get a good idea of what it was like and when I would finally reach the top. I looked for similar inclines in Brighton to train on, and on the day I felt comfortable running all the way up - although I was certainly glad to finally reach the top! I took care to relax and look around me, and didnโ€™t worry too much about my pace - other than to make sure that I kept running! I do think that a Jeff Galloway-type strategy can also help give a faster overall pace because the walking intervals are evenly spaced and the running intervals are at a consistent speed. But to break for a walk inconsistently will generally slow you down. After the Queensway section things get interesting with a succession of sharp ups and downs, and an opportunity for some fast downhills! I did find I was flagging a little by then though - some jelly babies helped!

I definitely struggled during the last 5 km of the race where it goes along the prom and is completely flat. I tried to keep powering along at around 5:30 min/km (a moderately hard effort) because I knew I needed to keep up the pace for sub-2, but faded in the last km. More work needed on the flat! I took a very quick stop at the last water station because I had been struggling with thirst the whole way round (I made a mistake and didnโ€™t have a drink with me at the start) and wanted to get a cup of water down without spilling any (more practice needed there too!), but even the quick breather didnโ€™t help me keep my pace up for that final split.

Anyway, it was a fun day (we were very lucky with the weather too), and I did make it round in just under two hours! My next half marathon will be a flat one, but possibly very windy, and I am using what I learned in Hastings to help prepare for it.

That was a long post - well done if you made it this far!! Hope it will be of some help. Feel free to ask questions!

Happy running, everyone ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š

linda9389 & roseabi xxx

January 27th, 2020

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David_G profile image
David_GMetric Marathon

Hi Roseabi and lovely running friends, sadly Iโ€™m pulling out of Weymouth HM in March because I havenโ€™t been able to run for a while due to a persistent niggle in my right leg. Itโ€™s probably down to over-training and not warming up/down properly and most importantly not stretching๐Ÿ˜ณ Lesson learnt, I wonโ€™t do that again๐Ÿ˜•

It hasnโ€™t dulled my enthusiasm though and I want to get out there again when Iโ€™m fully fit๐Ÿ’ช Itโ€™s on the mend but a slow process. I went to the National Running Show last weekend and bought some new running shoes and bone conduction earphones as a present to myself ๐ŸŽ

For the time being, Iโ€™m walking to make sure I complete Red January at least. I hope Iโ€™ll be able to run at least part of the London Winter Run for Cancer Research next Weekend๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿคž

Happy running everyone, Iโ€™ll be out there with you in spirit๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ

Remember those stretches too!

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply toDavid_G

Sorry to hear this David, but I'm glad you've not let it get you down!!! xxx

You'll be back for sure.

Stephen_UK profile image
Stephen_UKHalf Marathonโ€ข in reply toDavid_G

I David. I'm in the same boat, so am sending my sympathies...

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathonโ€ข in reply toStephen_UK

Oh no. Still struggling with the injury? I had to pull out of an HM in Oct last year - it was rotten for a while, but I was soon off choosing the next one ๐Ÿคฃ. Much sympathy tho.

Stephen_UK profile image
Stephen_UKHalf Marathonโ€ข in reply tolinda9389

Thank you! I started a thread about this here: healthunlocked.com/marathon...

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathonโ€ข in reply toStephen_UK

I'll take a look. Not entirely up to date with being away ๐Ÿ™‚

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathonโ€ข in reply toDavid_G

Ahh, sympathies. Well done for staying so positive though. Speedy healing and good luck with LWR.

David_G profile image
David_GMetric Marathonโ€ข in reply tolinda9389

Thanks Linda, Iโ€™m trying to stay positive. I have my new shoes and earphones to try out after all!๐Ÿ˜Š

Iโ€™ll shamble around the LWR route somehow. Iโ€™m sure the brilliant atmosphere will help too!๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ‘

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linda9389AdministratorMarathonโ€ข in reply toDavid_G

Haha. The shoes and headphones will be great motivators for when you're ready ๐Ÿ˜

Tbae profile image
TbaeMetric Marathon

Wow Abi, what a Brillant post.

You can post your knowledge as quick as you can run.โ˜„๏ธโ˜„๏ธ

๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธโญ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฅโœ…

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply toTbae

Thanks Bae! xxx

I have to say, I am not one of nature's writers - I find the experience is a bit like pulling teeth ๐Ÿ˜„

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SettersHalf Marathon

Really useful article, thank you ! Slowly getting back to longer runs after spell off for Tibia inflammation, still planning to do HM distance, no idea when it will happen, sometime in the spring is the plan so these posts are really helpful for me, do appreciate your time ๐Ÿ™‚

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SlowLoris

For my only official HM so far I used the Garmin virtual pacer. Makes it easy to see if you are on target. If you drop behind going uphill you can see when you've caught up again. Have to be realistic about target time though. I'll use it again for the FM.

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linda9389AdministratorMarathonโ€ข in reply toSlowLoris

I haven't come across this - is it watch specific? I have a 235, but maybe it's not available to me?

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SlowLorisโ€ข in reply tolinda9389

For the 235 you would need to get a third party data field app from connect IQ store. I have a 245 which has it as standard.

It's also handy for me because I tend to use the first half mile or so as a warm up. Not good tactics for a PB but if I did all that prancing about in the start pen for 15 minutes I'd be Donald before I started.

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linda9389AdministratorMarathonโ€ข in reply toSlowLoris

Haha! A gentle start is always good unless it's a short race. I'll take a look to see if I can find anything in the app store ... and I'll add it to my list of reasons for an upgrade from the 235 ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon

Helpful and timely roseabi. Running by feel on a planned 15k on Sunday at a pace which turned out to be 53seconds/km faster than my 14k of the previous week was not a bright idea! Result was a near pb10k....but the run ended there! I have got out of the habit of checking my Garmin in run, mainly because I have been doing so much hill work (so gradient has dictated pace). Back to clock watching.

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon

Really useful, thanks roseabi . ๐Ÿ˜€

Iโ€™m going to be realistic for the Bath Half. Itโ€™s 100% my legs which flag on long runs, not my puff, so I need to pace myself consistently from the off. For the GSR I felt fantastic up to about 12k, then they waned and my splits divebombed, but I kept on chugging away! ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ

So Iโ€™ve been working on slowing my splits down a little at the start and maintaining that pace throughout. Itโ€™s been working pretty well for me. I figure once Iโ€™ve got that going well, I can gradually begin to up the pace of each split just a teeny bit. Iโ€™m able to add a little sprintlet at the finish too!

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon

Great post roseabi . I still struggle to run by feel (other than 'all out' and 'dead slow', there seems to be a big unidentifiable range in the middle!). At least I understand the theory, and do spend a lot of time thinking about what I should be doing! However, the setting off too fast thing I am generally better at. The wisdom that says 'there's no such thing as time in the bank' is something I learned the hard way in training. My races always start too fast (still) but I can usually, consciously, pull it back after a kilometre or so. Not quite perfect pacing, but maybe I'll get it one day ๐Ÿคฃ

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pianoteacherMarathonHalf Marathon

Thank you so much Abi - especially for the Hastings specific stuff โค๏ธ

Queensway was my downfall last year as I walked and then never really got back into it. It's annoying because it's too dangerous to run there in training but I am going on a club run this Saturday where we will run most of the course. Apparently we will go up a road with a similar gradient so it will give me some idea of a sensible speed.

I like the idea of getting to certain points in a particular time as well. I ran water station to water station at Beachy which worked brilliantly until I died in the last 6 miles and ended up losing around 20 mins ๐Ÿ˜”

I'm doing a 16 mile club race in a couple of weeks which will hopefully help my endurance. I've been doing a lot of long easy pace runs in preparation for that so I think I need to introduce a Tempo run as well so I don't forget what it feels like to give it some effort ๐Ÿ˜‚

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply topianoteacher

There was a thing I actually liked about Queensway! Because it turned out to be quite a warm day, the shade of the trees along there was most welcome ๐Ÿ˜„ It is very daunting though.

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon

Congrats on your PB roseabi , thatโ€™s fab!

Thank you so much for this great post. I need to read and digest because Iโ€™m still rubbish at pacing myself and find it hard to do. Although recently Iโ€™ve been concentrating on it during my runs and it is getting a teeny bit better ๐Ÿค—

My cadence is pretty consistent but my pacing is all over the place, which I find strange....I really need to get a grip and focus more ....

I have done some work on it though and try to aim for negative splits and I always run the last K faster than the rest which has paid dividends.

My times would be better in races though if I ran more consistently. I do start off slow and build up but excitement usually means I get carried away ๐Ÿ™„

Iโ€™ll read this and othersโ€™ replies and take it all in.....๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™‚

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply toIrishprincess

The cadence thing does seem a bit odd! Are you running to music?

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathonโ€ข in reply toroseabi

Mostly but not always and it doesnโ€™t seem to make any difference ๐Ÿค”

Macmac profile image
MacmacMarathon

Iโ€™ve had to cancel all my races unfortunately. Been having calf issues all of Jan and showing no signs of recovering - in fact it is worse now, so have completely stopped all running โ˜น๏ธ. Was meant to be doing an HM this Sunday but canโ€™t even walk properly at the moment...

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply toMacmac

Oh Mac I'm so sorry ๐Ÿ˜ฃ xx You'll be back!

Macmac profile image
MacmacMarathonโ€ข in reply toroseabi

Thanks Abi - At least Iโ€™m not training for a marathon and hope to be back in the spring xx

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MsLegs10 Miles

Hi Roseabi, Iโ€™ve been working up to my Half Marathon race at the end of March, ran 14k at the weekend. I have a health issue, feel for the runners who are out at the moment due to injury, hope you heal soon if youโ€™re reading this. Iโ€™m going to start a Charity just giving page soon as Iโ€™m getting closer to the big day now. Moving back to the U.K. end of Feb . ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿ‘‹

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply toMsLegs

Well done - hope your health problem is improving? xxx

MsLegs profile image
MsLegs10 Milesโ€ข in reply toroseabi

Itโ€™s something thatโ€™s on going... but not bad atm. X

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon

Thanks for your detailed information Roseabi. A mine of knowledge and experience to be sure ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™‚

My training is going ok thus far. Just off out now for some intervals I ran an 18k last Saturday Took my time, walked through my two snack breaks. I didnโ€™t take water

My plan calls for a benchmark Run each week which has a fast three minute section. Iโ€™ve been doing ok with them, and my times determine pacing for my plan which gets adjusted accordingly

I think as long as I nail the distances, times etc then there should be few surprises on race day. My HM is run on a narrow public trail so ducking, diving, dodging and weaving will be the order of the day. Not colliding with cyclists is the main job ๐Ÿ™„

To all those laid up I wish you a speedy recovery ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ‘.

Have a good training week peeps ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿ‘

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply tomisswobble

Sounds like it's going really well! xxx

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon

Thanks Roseabi I didn't nail my intervals pace this morning at all. Mind you trying to run fast laps in traffic is not ideal. Even the park was thronged Oh well

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply tomisswobble

It's tricky!

Run46 profile image
Run46Half Marathon

Thanks, helpful informative post again...you and Linda make a great team ๐Ÿ‘

Well done on your PB, practice and structure clearly work...you're super speedy โšก

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonโ€ข in reply toRun46

Thank you! xxx

linda9389 is an awesome colleague and friend ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

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OldflossAdministrator

Hi !

This is really, really useful and having been on the IC, until last week, I am really interested. I am having a ball with pace at the moment... with experimentation on run/walk repeats...( moving back to the training gently)... it is sooooo interesting... and I am looking forward to seeing what happens when I go back to a pure run..run:) ( if you understand that )!

I am run walking at a good steady pace and enjoying it... and not feeling the strain at all..and I do feel as if it is going to improve my speed ultimately... It is fun anyway!

Thank you.... a great and perfectly timed post...

Happy running all xxx

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathonโ€ข in reply toOldfloss

Hi OF ๐Ÿ‘‹. Pleased to see youโ€™re back

Have fun ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorโ€ข in reply tomisswobble

Thanks you...x

You will still be back home by the time I finish ..but at least my legs are still working! ๐Ÿ˜‰

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathonโ€ข in reply toOldfloss

Itโ€™ll be fun whatever ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

Keep moving and hopefully all will be well ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ

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misswobbleMarathon

I did a steady 15k yesterday. My legs ached though and I felt I made heavy weather of it Mind you the muddy trail is tough in parts so I headed back to the road for the later stages. Glad to have it ticked off โœ…

6k recovery run due today but not been out yet as itโ€™s dog day Iโ€™ll head out after taking him home. Itโ€™ll be dark by then ๐Ÿ™„. Heโ€™s not very well so I donโ€™t want to leave him. Itโ€™s hellishly windy here today ๐Ÿคจ

Lordi profile image
LordiMarathon

I learned a great pacing lesson last Oct when 2 accomplished runners I work with kindly offered to pace me to a sub 2 hr HM. They had to continually pull me back by the back of my shirt over the first 10k. The constant controlled pace then left me with loads in the tank for the last 4km (which were the fastest kms run). I smashed my PB by a quarter of an hour! So I've learned that I have to take it easy from the gun and use the watch tech to set alarms etc.

I'vw been a bit AWOL from here lately as I took 3 weeks off over the holidays - but am now back to a gentle 2 x 5k per week on new legs. Plan is to get up to regular 21k training runs over the next 3 months, then run with my daughter on her 1st HM early May, then a few marathons (Helsinki and Tallin) and wait for it ... in ATHENS in Nov!

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