Nutrician andamd

[horseaddict]

Do you do nutrician for dry amd.. I want to see if I can naturally get the same amounts from real food..as the supplement AREDS supply.

[rollerboy]

'lo horseaddict - well yes, it is possible but not that simple to get foods that contain what is needed - there isn't much guidance on this. Probably easiest to look up 'foods containing lutein' and 'foods containing zeaxanthin' (those are the hard ones). The AREDS2 (which does not contain the potentially harmful beta-caratene in AREDS) gelule contains ALL you need each day - more reliable and probably cheaper than hunting down everything. You most likely already get all you need for most of it in your diet anyway - but everyone's diet is different. Exceeding the recommended dose of anything doesn't help at all so far as the eyes are concerned. It's either used elsewhere or discarded.

[horseaddict in reply to rollerboy]

yes my optician said not to over dose as crystalisation in the eye will occur. im still corresponding with persevista on their saffron product, I must say, the testimonial forums are all highly positive..not sure if there is any from the UK though and some report an improvement in eye sight but I thought that was not possible? ... I am tempted to swop the AREDS for the saffron product but I may have a problem with one ingredient..the reservatrol which is an estrogen receptor..not good for breast cancer victims. ..im wondering if I should just purchase a saffron supplement to take with the AREDS...it will be interesting to see if you get a result. I think you will know after at least 3 months of using persevista. keep us informed.

[rollerboy in reply to horseaddict]

Most elements of the AREDS2 formulation are quite commonly available in normal diet (viamins C and E, zinc and copper, and omega 3 fish oils. All of these are used all over the place, not just the eyes. But the beta-caratene in the earlier AREDS formula was shown to be dangerous for smokers and ex:smokers as it promoted cancer, so that was changed to lutein and zeaxanthin in AREDS2, and omega 3 added as well as that too is used all over the body. But it only slows down progression. It does not repair or reverse damage.

Saffron is quite different, and works differently, at the molecular (genetic) level to repair damage already done. Research and development on both AREDS2 and Saffron 2020 has been going on for more than 25 years. You either believe it or you don't. But every day that passes while looking into it means it has more to do. Any chance, however slim, is better than no chance. That's my view, anyway!

[horseaddict in reply to rollerboy]

I agree with you..cant we just add saffron to our areds?:

[rollerboy in reply to horseaddict]

Persevita have already done that - my next step is to change to Saffron 2020 XP, which combines the 2020 Pro with AREDS2. I'm just using up my existing stock of AREDS2 first ...

[horseaddict in reply to rollerboy]

rosemary is another herb helpful to amd. just researching that too.

[JimGlanDwr in reply to rollerboy]

Saffron is quite expensive for just a little if bought in normal shops and supermarkets. We buy ours from an Indian food supplier on line as we live in a rural area, cheaper and you get more. Those living in big towns or cities should try Asian food markets or shops. We also use saffron essence, how much real saffron this contains I've no idea.

[horseaddict in reply to JimGlanDwr]

Thanks for that. I could buy online too. What sort of quantity do you get ? Is it in powder form and how much do you take per day.also is this added to your areds2 supplement?..

[JimGlanDwr in reply to horseaddict]

I don't take any supplements as being a veggie and eating lots of green and yellow fruit and veg after discussing with my GP was told I don't need them, that was three years ago and my eyes are OK. You can try searching saffron and see the best deals. We use spices of India. We add saffron to some Mid East and Asian food we cook,

Eggs are supposed to contain a lot of Lutein despite possible other health problems with eggs I've increased my egg intake. Sweet corn is supposed to be another high lutein food.

[horseaddict]

you cant do that in huge amounts otherwise crystalisation may occur..but yes I am tanked up with spinach and sprouts every day too ha.ha. thanks for the reply. have a look at persevista a Canadian company that do a formula that includes saffron. a member here told me about it. interesting reading. we need all the help we can get and for members to share any snippets.

[Becky_MacularSociety Partner]

Good Morning horseaddict,

There has been a lot of research into whether nutritional supplements can make up for the lack of lutein, zeaxanthin and other antioxidants in people’s diets. While it is important to eat a wide range of foods, the vegetables that have the highest amount of lutein are kale, spinach, broccoli etc. However It is widely agreed that if you eat a healthy diet including at least five portions of fruit and vegetables a day, you should not need a supplement.

While we believe that taking supplements containing lutein may be beneficial to eye health, we do not endorse any brand. Shops such as boots and other health food places sell supplements which follow AREDs 2 formula, such as Macushield Gold. You can also look at butterflies-eyecare.co.uk/ and filter results specifically for AREDs 2 supplements.

I am linking our nutrition booklet for more information about diet, and a little about supplements also

macularsociety.org/sites/de...

Research has suggested that having more than 10mg of lutein a day adds no extra benefit to eye health, and of course there is the risk of crystallization and other side effects if you have too much, which is why it is important to talk to your GP before taking supplements or making major changes to your diet, especially if you take other medications.

Becky

Advice and Information Service

Macular Society

0300 3030 111

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[horseaddict]

Thanks Becky.

[JimGlanDwr]

Eat a wide variety of fruit and vegetables and several eggs a week the eggs can be on their own in various forms or in other food such as pancakes.

I'm vegetarian so find eating fruit and veg easy and it's a lot cheaper than meat.

For instance had half a tin of peaches for lunch and just had a banana for a snack, yesterday had steamed parsnips and carrots and Yorkshire pudding ( egg in yorkies).

We make a veg stew, the basis is carrots, turnip, leeks, celery and broccoli and anything else we have spare. Very healthy and filling, we also eat quite a lost of Mediterranean / Asian style food, we normally just wash potatoes leaving the skin on for the selenium.