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Hello everyone

Does anyone know how many years a doctor must do extra to qualify as a GP?. Is it three?.

Many thanks, hope your as well as possible.

MistyX

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Hollydebs

Hi Misty

Believe it’s 3 years specialist training to become GP xx

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misty14 in reply toHollydebs

Hi hollydebs

Thanks for your reply. I thought it was three years and wasn't sure. How are you and your mum doing?. There's going to be another C&C get together in Barnstsple in Nov. Would be lovely to meet you. X

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Hollydebs in reply tomisty14

Do you know the details of that I.e. date, time etc?

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misty14 in reply toHollydebs

Hi hollydebs

It's Nov 6 th at St. John's garden centre 11 am.

Another opportunity to see mayne and David hopkins is they'll be at NDDH cafe between 11am -2 PM. On October 9 th. Could perhaps see you at either?. Xx

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eekt

The whole hog family! A joy! 😻 Thanks for sharing! xxx

Three years GP specialist training according to this:

gprecruitment.hee.nhs.uk/Re...

Personal skills required include...

Clinical Knowledge & Expertise:

Capacity to apply sound clinical knowledge & awareness to full investigation of problems

Empathy & Sensitivity:

Capacity & motivation to take in others’ perspectives & to treat others with understanding

Communication Skills:

Capacity to adjust behaviour & language as appropriate to needs of differing situations

Conceptual Thinking & Problem Solving:

Capacity to think beyond the obvious, with analytical and flexible mind

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misty14 in reply toeekt

Hi eek

Thanks for your very helpful info and answer. I thought it was three years. I shall have a good read of the GP training program, very interesting. I think the GP registrar that mum saw recently needs to brush up on some of those skills!. Mind you she's only just got started at our practice so got a way to go. Xx

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EOLHPC

😍😍😍😍 GREAT HEDGIE PHOTO: THANKS 😘🍀💐

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PMRpro

healthcareers.nhs.uk/explor...

I liked the paragraph beginning "GPs are expected to keep up to date after completing their initial training" ...

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misty14 in reply toPMRpro

Hi PMpro

Many thanks for sending me the GP careers info. Very interesting and helpful. Some gp's are more up to date than others but interesting seeing what they must do to keep up their validation as a GP!. What do you think the phrase 'having a reflective record ' means?. Seems a bit weird. Hope your both as well as possible. X

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PMRpro in reply tomisty14

They are supposed to take a case and reflect on how they managed it - or mismanaged it... They are to look at what they did and then write about what they could have done better and so what they should do next time they are faced with a similar situation. It is a common learning exercise these days - didn't make sense to me either until my daughter started doing them as part of her qualifications she is doing as a paramedic. Self-funded I hasten to add - they don't all do it even though it should make them better practitioners.

Yes thanks - not too bad at all, sitting on the shores of a small lake in northern Italy this week before moving on to Lake Garda and rather more going on. Supposed to be an hour of seaplane displays tomorrow afternoon which we should be able to see from here.

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misty14 in reply toPMRpro

Thanks for that PMpro. My mum's horror story at the mo, at the hands of a GP registrar would be the perfect one for her to reflect on!. Oh boy does she need to learn lessons from it!. Good luck for your daughter's paramedic training. You must be very proud of her. Enjoy the seaplane displays. Hope weather is good for you. X

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PMRpro in reply tomisty14

She has just celebrated 10 years as a paramedic - loves it just as much as the first days despite some truly horrible experiences. And her big sister has just got a permanent full time 9-5 nursing post with prospects for achieving a lot more training. Two years ago she had dropped out of nursing and discovering that private social care is run at the expense of the staff while the boss cruises around in his new yacht (real story, and he was supposed to be on call for the emergency they were having ...). Then I told her something someone on this forum had said about a positive experience with a nurse specialist and that fired her desire to nurse again. I can't remember who it was - but thank you whoever you were!

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misty14 in reply toPMRpro

That's a wonderful story PMpro , you must be super proud of them both!. Have they followed mum into the medical profession?. Enjoy the displaysX

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PMRpro in reply tomisty14

I didn't do medicine in the end though I did go to medical school originally and did my degree in a pre-med school department. But I did work in the NHS for a long time and OH was a clinical scientist running a diagnostics department. So they were rather influenced in the direction they took I suppose! My grandson wanted to do medicine but his standard grades won't have been good enough I suspect. Which IS a bit of a relief really.

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misty14 in reply toPMRpro

No wonder PMpro you have such good medical knowledge and are such an asset to this forum!. Did you regret not becoming a doctor?. Was it health reasons you had to change direction but you still achieved a very responsinle, technical job!. Not nice for your grandson to have the pressure of following the family!. Maybe he could do a compromise like physio or a pharmacist even!. Does he know what he wants to do?. Not the end of the world these days if you don't get the grades!. There's always an alternative!. X

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PMRpro in reply tomisty14

No - financial! I realised I didn't want to be a doctor enough to starve for 6 years! G'son put the pressure on himself - he'd be far better as a clinical scientist or something of the sort!

Occasionally I regret it - especially when the local GPs missed OH's cancer and nearly killed him or now with PMR etc - until I look at the state of some of my peers who did stick it out. I wouldn't have had the life I've had if I'd been a medic.

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misty14 in reply toPMRpro

Hindsight is a wonderful science PMpro which we don't have the benefit of when making big life decisions!. I do hope your grandson makes a good alternative choice of career. He's obviously very clever. That's awful about you and your husband's health . Hope his treatment works and you keep as well as possible. Interesting you've been able to see how your friends have fared in the medical profession!. Not too many regrets really when you weigh it all up!. X

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PMRpro in reply tomisty14

He had it 25 years ago - he survived despite the GPs but he did have a witch of an oncologist! Last year was prostate ca and that has been dealt with by 8 weeks of radiotherapy - a few minor side effects at the time but nothing since despite the urologist's dire warnings. They were just miffed he refused surgery!!!

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misty14 in reply toPMRpro

Fingers tightly crossed PMpro your OH stays in remission a long time!. You've both been thru it but he did well not getting radiotherapy side effects too much. Doesn't that prove we're all different and should try these things!. If he'd listened to that specialist he'd die!. Hope you enjoyed the seaplane displays. X x

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PMRpro in reply tomisty14

I did - and got a re-run on Sunday morning. Plus an outdoor wedding near the cafe for our Sunday morning aperitives!

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misty14 in reply toPMRpro

That's great pmpro.Xx

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weathervane

What do you call a family of 3 hedgehogs 🦔 is it a prickle?? They are so sweet, my wee hedgehog doesn’t call anymore 🙁

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misty14 in reply toweathervane

Hi weathervane. I don't know what you call a family of hedgehogs. I love your suggestion. The babies are hogs!. It's a shame you've lost yours!. You could put some water and dog/cat food out to see if one comes. I did read a recent article that they've lost so much of their habitat that they're coming into urban gardens more!.

Hope your son is improving on MTX and you still are better. I'm having a fasting blood test next week to see if I've got diabetes or Addisons!. My new GP is on the case and I had a really good appointment with him. I'm very relieved and I think he's definitely a keeper!. He wants to see me in a month . Take care X

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weathervane in reply tomisty14

That’s great news about your gp , hope he continues to shine ! I hope the bloods show what the problem is and it’s easy to control, it’s awful having to wait for tests and results. My son is coping well so far on treatment last weekend he felt fine after the methotrexate. Touch wood im feeling good at the moment, have to go and see my youngest in Holland next weekend ( hes at uni there ) so i have to keep well , getting on the ball with my smoothies again . Still keeping my fingers crossed for you xxx

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misty14 in reply toweathervane

Thanks weathervane for your lovely message. So pleased your son was better last weekend. It does take awhile for body to get used to it. I hope it starts helping his skin soon. Fingers crossed for you keeping well for Holland . Lovely trip to see your son. I'll let u know my resukts. Thanks for your support. Take care x

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misty14 in reply toweathervane

Hi weathervane

I saw your post about driving and long journeys!. Sorry you've got such a long one to see your ill Aunt!. Hope she improves quickly. I went from a manual to an automatic and never looked back!. It does take pressure off left leg and back and some automatic gear boxes are so good the car practically drives itself!. My Micra did this!. Can't imagine driverless cars can you?. I did have some lessons going from a manual to an automatic as it's very different with a local driving school!. Helped greatly. Do hope you made it to Holland ok and had a lovely time seeing your son. Hope your poorly one is feeling better and you are still feeling well despite everything!. I get my blood results in a weeks time when I see my GP for our monthly appt. trying to stick to that schedule but not easy when I'll!.

Take care X

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weathervane in reply tomisty14

Hi misty, good to hear from you ! I think automatic is the way , when i get round to changing. Im in Holland at the moment, back home late tomorrow, my flight to Holland was cancelled on the Thursday night so had to quickly book another one so didn’t arrive till late Friday night. Having a lovely time with my youngest , am tired as walking legs off me !!

I hope all goes well next week , let us know how you get on , best wishes xxx

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misty14 in reply toweathervane

Thanks for your lovely message weathervane. Glad your having a great time in Holland with your son but sorry your travel arrangements got changed last minute. Nightmare!. Hope you get home safely and you rest those legs. I'll be in touch. TAKE CAREX

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GloomyEeyore in reply toweathervane

It’s an array of hedgehogs. I think prickle of hedgehogs sounds a lot better. Xx

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misty14 in reply toGloomyEeyore

Thanks GE for the hedgie info. I agree prickle is much better. Xx

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Minnskimoo in reply toweathervane

Any one of these, weathervane:

An array

A nest

A prickle 🤗

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misty14 in reply toMinnskimoo

Thanks for hedgie info miniskimo. I agree about prickle being the best!. Hope your wellX

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GloomyEeyore

I love your photo of the hedgehog family. No hedgies round here or if there are I haven’t seen them. We do have foxes which maybe keep the hedgies away 😢

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misty14 in reply toGloomyEeyore

I'm so glad you like my hedgie photos GE. Have you tried putting water and diog/cat food in jelly out for them to see if they eat it or foxes?. Sounds like your very rural GE in Scotland. I did read a recent article saying hedgehogs are coming to urban areas much like foxes really as there losing there natural habitats!. Xx

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GloomyEeyore in reply tomisty14

No, I’m not rural. Live in a city but near the river and a railway line! Don’t want to put out dog or cat food as don’t want to encourage foxes - or seagulls! Gulls are a nightmare. Do have seed on a bird table and suet blocks hanging from it. Plenty of pigeons, sparrows, starlings, blue tits visit. Couple of robins too. Xx

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misty14 in reply toGloomyEeyore

I understand GE not wanting to encourage foxes and gulls. They can be a nightmare. It's lovely your feeding birds and getting a good variety. it's great isn't it helping the wildlife specially as your in the city near a railway line. Hope you keep as well as possible. Xx

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Loopylou1234

Hi,

For any medical person before they start specialist training:

5 or 6 years medical school

2 years of foundation training.

Then to be a GP:

3 years of specific GP training.

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misty14 in reply toLoopylou1234

Thanks for your great and very helpful info Loopylou. It's a big committment medical training and then to specialise. Hope your as well as possible. X

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