Hi barnclown and maureenpearl thanks so much for your replies.Sorry its late in replying just home from work as I work evening shifts. I feel I am really just learning how complex all this is.I believe until you are diagnosed with something its like a need to know basis where docs and consultants are concerned.I'm only now starting to join the dots myself and feel so stupid it has taken me this long. But I never knew anything about autoimmune disease until it came knocking for me.I thought at first 5 years ago this was menopause lol.Have been going around in circles since hence my name.At least I have learned so much from this forum going forward I am determined to get this sorted so I can get my life back well what is normal for me anyway.Feel this has been going on since my late teens but all came to a head when I was 46 ish. Sometimes I feel a fraud as I know a lot of you are dealing with a lot more serious health issues than I have at the moment but maybe that could change. And will deal with it if and when it happens. Had one gp who frustrated me so much left the surgery after being referred to my rehumy.And in that surgery since a 2 year old. Thanks again for helping me understand a little more.