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4 weeks ago I was a 49 year old vegan weighing 12 st 12lbs. Then I went LCHF and now I’m a 49 year old vegetarian weighing in 12st 12lbs. The only change is that I am now constipated and I really hate the look of eggs!

Did something wrong here I think🥺

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oops :)

Temporary or intermittent constipation is, unfortunately, one of those things that's quite common. It's distressing but it does go away. As far as I can tell it's something to do with the dehydration and electrolyte imbalance that commonly accompanies the 'keto' phase.

As for fear of eggs ... I'm afraid that's rather inevitable given the fact that you're (a) vegetarian/vegan and (b) not eating dairy products. It doesn't leave you with many choices for fat and protein.

I can't remember if it's been mentioned already, but I suspect you're one of those few people who isn't likely to get along with LCHF. If you were consuming milk/butter/cheese (the standard meat substitutes in vegetarian cultures) you'd probably be OK, but eggs can definitely get a bit much after a while! I've found that I can only eat a lot of eggs (say, more than two a day) if I'm very physically active.

Your best bet - and this is purely my opinion - would be to go for a low-glycemic-load diet. The aim there would be to reintroduce a sensible amount of fat while reducing grain products. I can really recommend coconut products here. Avocado, olives/olive oil, palm oil, and nuts can also be good fat sources for vegetarians.

What does your typical meal plan look like at the moment? Are you getting plenty of fresh veg on your plate?

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Yassa in reply to TheAwfulToad

Part 1 of yesterday

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Part 4

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Trying some cheese out.

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No veg though

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wow, you're really taking this seriously!

Do you mean your meals don't include veg, or you didn't log the veg?

If the former, then I'm afraid you're not vegetarian :) A healthy low-carb diet, even for meat-eaters, should be something like 40-70% non-starchy vegetables by volume. That's partly so that you're getting plenty of micronutrients and minerals, and partly to offset the (usually robust) flavours of fat/protein foods like eggs.

What rather stands out here - although I'm guessing you just didn't log quite a lot of things - is that your food looks like a series of snacks rather than meals, and contains quite a lot of stuff from bottles/packets (including a lot of soya, although possibly that isn't representative of your typical routine?).

That almost certainly means you're (a) somewhat malnourished and (b) not eating enough, either in terms of calories or bulk. This might have some bearing on the constipation issue.

I would suggest:

a) Make you meals a lot bigger. If you can cope with a big breakfast then have a big breakfast (and avoid cereals like weetabix). Something like this might do the trick:

bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/vegg...

Or if not, do something similar for lunch. When you have a meal, make sure you're really full. If you're a bit stumped for ideas, invest in some cookbooks or browse around on YouTube.

b) Dump the snacks, particularly anything in a packet with "keto" on the label. There's nothing wrong with these things as such, but since 50% of your daily calories are coming from snacks, they seem to be taking your attention away from making proper meals.

c) Rather than just eating plain, unadorned eggs, try making a quiche - this might be a good way to get a little bit of cheese into your meals. You can keep this in the fridge and take a slice if you're feeling peckish, thus averting the need for a snack bar.

d) Try to eat other legumes rather than soya - there are loads of great recipes based on beans. Again, there's nothing exactly wrong with soya, but it's not a good idea to have too much of it.

Incidentally ... don't try to limit your daily calories. If/when your body feels it needs fewer calories it will tell you!

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No veg.... I meant yesterday! Tried cheese but not a fan.

But agree with comments there are too many snacks but this kinda reflects my job. I leave house at 6.30am and get back after 7pm. Can’t stomach hot food at breakfast and don’t have time to cook before I leave. I work in clinics and hospitals so no kitchen tables to sit at. It’ll be like this til June when hoping job calms.

I’ve got bored with food and dieting now.

Lost 6 stone over 10 years ago and put 2 stone back on so not bad but want that 2 stone gone again! Got stuck 10 years ago with weight and only lost it through diet shakes. So no idea as to how to loose weight naturally!

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That's a tough working day, Yassa, especially without a proper meal schedule.

Slightly OT, but it really annoys me that healthcare jobs don't seem to make proper allowances for meal breaks. I realise patients can't necessarily wait, but people who are providing healthcare need to be healthy. If they can't even sit down and eat lunch, that's not going to work out well.

/rant

Not a problem skipping breakfast. Just eat later. A lot of people on LCHF seem to slip into a habit of brunch + dinner (ie., two meals a day).

If you're getting bored with food, there's a bigger problem there than just weight gain, IMO. Are you sure you're OK, generally? Stress? Depression? Food, for me, is a bit of a daily highlight. I seem to spend quite a lot of my time thinking "I wonder what nice things I'll have for dinner?". Maybe I'm just a bit weird, but if you're not looking forward to your meals at least a little bit, something is going badly wrong.

Somehow, you need to make time for preparing proper meals with proper food, and bringing them with you to work. I realise you're knackered when you get in at 7pm, but your future health (and weight!) depends on finding a workaround, perhaps by preparing bulk meals. I've noticed that I have much less desire for variety on LCHF, and I can happily eat the same things every day. I have no idea why, but it is what it is.

So if you like hummus, you could probably prepare three days worth of hummus and pack some of it with some vegetable sticks, pickles, and a boiled egg to take with you to work each morning. Or perhaps some soup/stew that you can microwave. It's not ideal, but might do the trick. Just an example off the top of my head. Make sure you bring a big meal.

I strongly suggest researching Indian and Chinese cooking, both of which have very tasty vegetarian options. You might be getting bored with your food because it's boring. Push your boundaries. If you don't know how to eat "naturally" then you're going to have to learn, and that means practice.

I may have asked you this before, but why no dairy? Allergies, don't like it, or don't want it? Have you tried Greek yogurt? If you have ethical concerns there are some (although very few!) dairy farms that raise 'ethical' milk herds, even going so far as to keep the bulls as pets (male bovines actually produce a lot of useful ... output, as it happens, so they're not completely worthless on a farm). I'd also add ... Babybel isn't really the best that the cheese world has to offer! If you prefer something mild, how about Port Salut, or even just some mozzarella? Experiment a bit and you might find something you can at least learn to like.

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Subtle_badger in reply to Yassa

I would be bored with diet and food after one day like that.

You need to find food you can eat. If you don't eat meat, dairy or vegetables, then what is left? I'd strongly suggest working with a dietician or nutritionist to help you explore food options that work with your ethics and preferences to create a nutritious diet you enjoy. Maybe then come back and we can help you knock some carbs off it.

I want to make suggestions, but with such a limited palate, it's hard.

Grains and legumes, while not low carb, form the basis of many vegan cuisines. Brown rice and hommus might appeal. Stop tracking the carbs for now, and tuck into some whole foods you enjoy.

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Hi Yassa

Nice to hear from you again.

I was thinking about you the other day and wondering how you were getting on, I had a box of 12 eggs about to be very past their best before date, so I boiled them all and put them in the fridge then tried to finish them up soonish. Reminded me of your struggle.

Personally I'm still worried that trying to eat LCHF whilst almost vegan leaves you with very little to eat 😢.

Presumably it's for ethical reasons that you don't eat meat and fish? Or is it a different reason?

And you say you have started eating cheese? Is that ok for you ethically? and is it ok for your stomach?

My LCHF diet consist of a lot vegetables. So most of my meals are a big bowl of non starchy veg of some kind, cooked, raw, stewed, fried or souped. Or a big bowl of salad. Although the vegetable are the bulk of each meal, most of my calories come from fatty and protein foods. So each meal I also eat things from the the following list with my vegetables; oily fish, meat (including fatty cuts), cheese, eggs, olive oil, seeds, seed butters, nuts etc....

I don't actually eat that much meat in the week but I do eat a lot of oily fish. Then I eat more meat at weekends.

For me personally, if I couldn't eat dairy or fish I think I would be pretty stuck as to where to get my protein from, and the fats available from vegan sources (coconut, olive oil, avocado etc.) would get a bit boring. I suspect I would end up eating far too few calories and damaging my metabolism.

This is only my personal view and perhaps I'm a bit stuck in my ways with my diet....

I'm sure there are many imaginative ways to cook low-carb vegan foods. I think a few people had suggested recipes in previous threads. Are you a fan of cooking? I know a lot of people don't really have time.

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