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Transplant Optimisation Trial - fall out

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Hi - just thought I'd share this, I wrote it to explain to a relative what was happening. I know it is more about my transplant than the APS, but someone might have some thoughts so I thought it might be worth sharing.... Tx

I guess it started a few weeks back; my relationship was on the rocks, my horse needed to find a new home and at work I was busier than ever but feeling further from my goals of promotion.

To put it another way, I was under pressure.

I had my transplanted kidney (Kevin) in 2004 and with the Lupus and Sticky Blood Syndrome, it could have been a more tricky prospect to keep alive, but it had all be "relatively easy" (leaving aside the bouts of shingles, German measles and viral meningitis!). I am literally one in a million: one in every white women get Lupus and one in every thousand Lupus patients need a renal transplant!

There is a new trial out, testing for a specific antibody, if you have this antibody you are 50% more likely to reject your transplant. However, as I have been told, this antibody is actually a response to the B-cells and cell receptors connecting somewhere within the immune system.

I have been negative for this antibody as long as they have been testing it.

To measure the health of the kidneys creatinine is measured, this is essentially looking at the levels of proteins in the blood, the more effective the kidneys, the lower the creatinine. A score of 100 or below is about normal, 120 is the point that recognises renal failure, 188 is where I was when I was first diagnosed back in 1999, and 1,000 is not unreasonable if you are on dialysis.

As a transplanted kidney gets older, the very drugs that are keeping it alive start to be detrimental to its function. Traditionally, the treatment is reduced slightly to preserve it. This trial is looking at the benefits of doing the opposite, keeping the drug level higher to prevent the T-antibody from becoming active and keeping the chances of rejecting lower.

In this trial I am in the group who gets to know their results. At the beginning of the trial 8 months ago, I was negative. Now, during that time, I had been under stress but I got some great news, my tacrolimus levels were regular so it was deemed safe to reduce that immuno suppression for the good of Kevin. My creatinine levels had been resting at 140 and by reducing the tacrolimus by 0.5mg a day it was reduced to 122. The first time by creatinine levels had reduced in 10 years.

One of the difficult things as a "lifer" (life-long illness) is that you have to tread the line between monitoring health and not becoming a hypochondriac. So perhaps, a lull in energy, loss of short-term memory and difficulty concentrate should have sounded alarm bells - they are my key signs for the Lupus/Sticky blood being active. This is the issue with not turning green, or doing something specific, those symptoms cover everything - and nothing. So I assumed I was just stressed about normal life stuff and ignored it.

I shouldn't have had; I am convinced I was having a flare up in my immune system.

Now, the doctors can't tell me what trigger the Antibody-T but I know my body and I guess that on the previous levels of tacrolimus, we were delicately balanced and reducing it tipped my over the edge. Due to the stress factor, there are no guarantees that it wouldn't have happened anyway, but it makes total sense to me that I should have a flare up just after reducing my medication.

I won't lie, I've been having a hideous time. And sometimes it's worse because no one else can see it. I look fine, I still rock up to work but everything is difficult. Everything.

So, here's the twist:

Because it's a trial, how do you solve a problem like the T-antibody? It would make sense to you and me just to re-adjust the medication to where it was previously. However, from now on, if the T-antibody becomes negative, it makes no difference, because the doctors know that the B cells and the cell responders are connecting and that's the bit that will do the damage to the transplant. And they have no way of measuring that connection happening, and very few drugs that target the B-cells.

So when the doctors recommended that I upped both my immuno suppressant drugs and took steroids (a boost then steady dose for life) my heart sank. Steroids are powerful drugs that can affect people dramatically. Typically they increase my appetite dramatically, make my brain fuzzy, to the point where I get upset that strangers will eat in front of me without offering me some! I get "moon face" and it reduces bone density - not very clever when you ride horses.

But the kicker is that there is no proof that this treatment works!!

The doctor was very supportive and we talked through many options. It felt very odd not to take the doctors recommendation. So I opted to raise both immuno suppressants and take the short- high dose of steroids (8 weeks).

So, how will we know if it works. We don't.

We will continue to monitor the creatinine levels, but as there are no so many drugs in my system, this will be worse. I will always feel a tiny bit worse, everyday. I have no idea how you feel everyday, and I guess that's a good thing, but the prospect of feeling any worse and not knowing whether it is doing any good whatsoever is a hard one to justify in your head.

The only marker for success if me not rejecting Kevin. Transplanted kidneys last an average of 15 years, this year he will be 10 and I don't want to imagine life without him. It's exhausting and needs thought everyday. I take pills twice a day and inject blood thinners every morning - you don't even get Christmas Day off!!

There is no one to blame, no one at fault, it's just one of those unlucky things, and I am so lucky to have such a great team and family around me, but it's hard.

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You are a total super trooper with bells on, hats off to you.! MaryFx

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Manofmendip in reply to MaryF

I second that. Dx

in reply to Manofmendip

haha - thanks. I'm just a bit sick and very noisy!! Tx xxx

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Lure2

It sounds a very dramatic life for you at present!

It is a bit difficult to understand when you are not a medical professional as I am not.

I wish you good luck with your transplant.

Best wishes from Kerstin in Stockholm

in reply to Lure2

Thanks - I don't think there's anything anyone can say really, just thought I'd share in case it's happening to anyone else and they thought they were alone...! Tx xx

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jetjetjet

Hi Tasch-- it's great to hear from you again-- just wish the news was better- you still are an amazing gal. i was wondering about you . wish i had a magic wand and one swipe and well-a--. i know lots on here could use that :-) -- including myself . please keep me posted . you are in England correct ?? . I talk to some there via phone . maybe we could chat some time - I would love to talk to you -- you still amaze me -- keep up the fight and let me know how you are doing. " our wonder woman " !!!!! :-) :-) :-) Casey and I

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Hi Jet

Hey, the news isn't all bad. I had a chat with myself over the weekend and decided that I need to get over myself. Life rolls on even if I'm not on board with it, so here's to a new day and another shot at life. I aim on being irritatingly upbeat!! I have an appointment with my amazing APS / Lupus geius consultant lady (who also totally understand the role that "a life" plays in treatment) on Wednesday so her opinion will help to put me back on track.

Yes, I'm in England, and I'd be happy to chat sometime. Did you look at my profile? I updated the photo on the new HealthUnlocked thing and I have a photo of my darling dogs there now - might make you smile!

I shall post again soon with a happier post - I have a HUGE adventure coming up at the end of the year and I will be looking for some advice from you lot!

Take care and keep smiling Tx xx

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I will be here for YOU -- P.M. me if you would like and i will give you more info :-) Casey sends a wag

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booster1

I feel so bad for you. I was diagnosed with APS and lupus anticoagulant when I was 62 and by then the disease had clogged my kidneys causing renal failure. I've been on dialysis waiting for a transplant for 4 years so plan

to save your correspondence for "when" I get that kidney. UK seems to be so much more informed about APS

than the US. Good luck to you.

in reply to booster1

Gosh, you must be an incredible superhero to have been on dialysis for 4 years! My goodness, I was only on for a few months when I was 24 and that was enough for me. I will be sending you all my positive thoughts for that kidney, it will change your life so dramatically I cannot tell you.

My transplant came from my dad and I have to tell you that when this on (Kevin) dies, I will be running through that phone book on the lookout for anyone with two kidneys asking mega favours...

Take care of yourself and try to do at least one new thing that makes you smile... Tx

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booster1 in reply to

Thanks for the kind words Tasch but I think YOU'RE the superhero! "I will be running through that phone book on the lookout for anyone with two kidneys asking mega favours..."

Wow--I wish I had your assertiveness, meanwhile I hope Kevin serves you long and well.

hugs, KS

Dave

Thank you for such lovely words, I'm not sure I really deserve them. I'm just a stubborn, control freak who won't be told no! I'm so pleased that you have decided to accept the challenge of enjoying life! No one can appreciate your pain except you which makes it very difficult to communicate and very easy for it to get on top of you... I know that some of the things I do will have a negative impact on me but the sheer joy in living the way I want makes it worth it. I really believe that when we make these difficult decisions we are choosing to be happy and that mindset is the most powerful drug we have - I know I sound a bit hippy-esque (and believe me, I will not be substituting the positivity for my medication!) but life is great!

Take care Tx

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julieej

I really appreciate your honest account of your post transplant experience and sympathize with your concerns. I had a kidney transplant that failed in 2006 and they're not quite sure of the reason but one of the possibilities is Tacrolimus toxicity...somehow my levels got too high. It was a nightmare. I have since that time had some slight improvement in my native kidney function and was able to avoid dialysis but I'm so scared that's about to end. My creatinine is getting higher and so is my blood pressure which are both bad signs. I have about 20% kidney function left.

Keep fighting for yourself. Do what you know is right for your body! We know our bodies better than anyone. Also, I work in a hospital and had a patient several years ago who'd had his transplanted kidney for TWENTY years! Good luck!!!

in reply to julieej

Thanks for your comments. I read that the oldest living transplanted kidney is over 35 years old! so that's the target! I have to say, if/when i get close to dialysis again, I will be asking anyone / everyone for their spare parts with no shame at all!! I hope it all works out for you. Take care Tx

Wow! I'll have some of what you're having (possibly literally!)

I have done sky diving - it was great fun but the adrenalin doesn't last as long snowboarding etc, still nice to see the world from that angle!

thanks for your terrific, upbeat comments. Wishing you all the best.

Tx

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