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Hi folks,

I don’t watch much TV anymore so I don’t get to see a lot of adverts no more and that’s probably a good reason too.

But my mum is watching something on her ipad and it’s on the ITV player so with that comes adverts.

I just saw an ad for Munch Bunch and it boasts that it’s a good source of calcium and has an image of a cow on the lids.

Really, they should have a broccoli stalk on the front as that, for one, contains more calcium than a cow does.

This is a form of marketing and has been done for years and years.

Blatantly lying to the public about nutrition just to sell their goods.

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Zest profile image
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Hi Matt,

But if they put some broccoli on the lid, then people might assume the product contains broccoli, which would be quite confusing...

I hope you're having an enjoyable morning.

Zest :-)

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Matt2584 in reply toZest

Hi Zest,

I understand what you are saying but if you put a cow on the lid, not only are you telling the public that dairy is a good source of calcium... which it isn’t but you could also be telling people that the product contains beef.

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Matt2584 in reply toZest

By the way, I did have an enjoyable morning and afternoon thank you.

I went to one of my other disabled charities today and there was a speaker there talking about the conservation of animals. Interesting talk it was.

The lady who did the talk is called Shelley Lozano and I got a book of her poems she has written that was signed by Shelley :).

She knows of my art and I sent her the link to my online portfolio which I am sure she will like :).

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Zest in reply toMatt2584

Hi Matt2584

Glad to hear you've enjoyed your day - nice that you got a signed copy of that lady's book of poetry, that sounds really nice. I'm sure she'll enjoy seeing your Art work.

I've never had a Munch bunch product, so I don't really know what they contain. Hopefully not broccoli or beef though! You mentioned that they are yoghurts.

Anyway, here's to an excellent evening - the weather has improved here - it's a lovely evening. I am almost tempted to go out for a walk - I'll might do that.

Zest :-)

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Matt2584 in reply toZest

I used to eat Munch Bunch yogurts when I was a kid.

They are usually fruit flavoured yogurts.

I just had a thought. Fruity yogurts used to be quite vivid in colour and have a sharp taste but over the years, sugar has been added to them and now when you look at a strawberry yogurt that would have appeared as bright red (or similar) now looks like a pale red/pink colour.... this is because of the added sugar content.

It happens with yogurts and it also happens with people.

I have mentioned before how I used to eat masses of sugary foods when I was younger and I was quite the pale kid.

I remember when my best friend (at the time) was staying the night at my house and when he saw my face in my darkened bedroom he was laughing cos he said I looked like a ghost.

Years later as I grew up and came off all of that sugar intake my mum pointed out that all of the colour had come back to my face :).

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Zest in reply toMatt2584

Hi Matt,

I'm very glad to hear that you've got healthier over the years, and reduced your sugar intake - I have done a similar thing! I used to eat a lot more sugar, and have reduced it significantly in the recent years. (However I must admit I chose a sugary dessert today - but it was a special meal out, and I fancied a meringue).

Zest :-)

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Matt2584 in reply toZest

Although I am eating a lot healthier (more plant-based), I do still eat unhealthy every now and then.

I'm going to eat a bacon sandwich for my dinner later :).

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Do you have any more information on the calcium content of broccoli Vs milk? My OH has osteoporosis and has to be very careful to eat enough calcium. From the info he was given by the dietician, he gets about 250mg of calcium from a small glass of milk, and he gets about 90mg from a portion of broccoli. If the info is wrong, I'd want to correct him.

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Matt2584 in reply toCooper27

youtube.com/watch?v=mEnyaj9...

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Cooper27Administrator in reply toMatt2584

Thanks, but he didn't really mention anything about the calcium content?

We've been told by doctors that this case of osteoporosis is in a reversible state if he keeps his vitamin D and calcium intake up over the next few years, so we don't want to go against that advice without good evidence.

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Matt2584 in reply toCooper27

I know he didn't exactly touch on the content of calcium between dairy and veg such as broccoli.

I was hoping to look for more reads/videos that explained it.

I did read ages ago about broccoli being more calcium-dense than dairy.

You've had doctors that have told you the case of osteoporosis is in a reversible state.

That is good, honest advice in my view.

Years ago, if I went to a doctor about osteoporosis they would likely not tell you about it not being reversed and would prefer you carry on taking their medication.

Again, this link isn't exactly touching on the comparison between dairy and vegetables when it comes to calcium but is quite interesting.

anyavien.com/milk-causes-os...

And this article doesn't exactly tell you the comparison again but does mention about using crushed eggshells to fight osteoporosis.

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Matt2584 in reply toMatt2584

The other thing I forgot to add was a person I know at my Headway charity was told to intake calcium by his doctor, so he was drinking milk to up his levels of calcium.

I don't think he should have been doing that.

Dr. Milton Mills said in another one of his videos that cow's don't naturally produce calcium, they gain the calcium from all the things they eat.

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Cooper27Administrator in reply toMatt2584

I dunno, it's when they say dairy has the same effect on the body as gluten... I can't quite trust articles that say thing like that (I don't mean to be dismissive with that!) It's because my partner has coeliac disease, so gluten makes him very ill (it was the gluten that caused the osteoporosis).

I personally find dairy upsets my stomach, but I was allergic as a kid, so it's no big surprise for me :)

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Matt2584 in reply toCooper27

I can understand why you don’t trust that information given and I can understand why many would choose to not trust that information.

When I first started reading about natural/herbal remedies one of the things I first looked into was frankincense essential oil because that was the best oil for people with brain injuries... and this info came from Anya Vien... back then it was the Living Traditionally website.

Fatigue is a common symptom people with a brain injury have. I know everybody can suffer with some form of fatigue but people with a brain injury find it even worse. This is something many people do not understand.

I used to suffer with fatigue, not terribly but I think it may have helped more that I was a kid when fatigue was at it’s worst.

I did used to come home at the end of the day shattered.

I must have been in my late 20s, early 30s when I read about frankincense essential oil and I mail ordered some straight away.

All I did was inhale the scent straight from the bottle.

I would say about a week later I didn’t feel so fatigued.

As you know, I am an artist and whenever I did some drawing, before the frankincense, my hand used to tighten/cramp up after a while and my head and eyes would feel very thick, it was like I had cement in my head and I would feel very tired too.

After inhaling frankincense that problem went away... not completely but it did ease off.

And I think what you eat also contributes to fatigue as well.

You can go into health shops like Holland & Barrett and buy a pack of Moringa extract powder and even on the packet it says that it reduces fatigue.

Another nutrient that helps is vitamin B12. I sometimes eat nutritional yeast flakes that have B12 in them and that has definitely increased my energy levels and improved my fatigue too.

It makes me wonder if brain injury survivors are deficient in B12.

I can go and tell that information to Headway who are the charity who specialise in brain injury but they most probably wouldn’t listen.

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mercurf in reply toMatt2584

Anya Vien doesn't seem to be a health professional, I prefer to trust the NHS who have produced this useful article about finding calcium in non-dairy foods. google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q...

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Matt2584 in reply tomercurf

That’s right, Anya Vien doesn’t seem to be a health professional and that is because she is not a health professional.

But what I would like to know is, why do people always seek the guidance of these so called “professionals”.

Yes, they might know about the body but they don’t have all the answers.

A lot of these “professionals” do there job for the money only and aren’t really bothered about people’s health.

I have a brain injury and am part of a brain injured charity and I know people that have nearly died and some that have died but been resuscitated and their parents were told that their brain injured child would never walk or talk again. And this was from a “professional”.

Now these people are walking around and talking.

One person in particular, their speech is a lot slower and their walking is much slower too but she has defied what the “professionals” have said.

The only REAL professional is yourself.

Before one of my many surgeries I was told that I was going to wake up with a chest infection.

Bear in mind, this was from a “professional”.

I told my family about this, I started intaking more vitamin C before the surgery. I woke up with no problems.

So much for “professionals”.

And I think the NHS has got a lot to learn to.

I think they should take more note of what these vegan doctors say like Michael K

Aper M. D, Doctor Milton Mills, Dr. Bernard... etc.

in reply toCooper27

Not sure if this is applicable to your OH, but rebounding (jumping on a mini trampoline) is very good for bone density. The Bellicon website has more info. Astronauts lose bone density in space & NASA use rebounding to build up bone density before & after a space trip. It’s also a lot of fun. You can buy a rebounder with handles if you aren’t that strong/stable.

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I just mentioned this to him, and his ears perked up! We'll look into that one, thanks :)

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Yes but does it though?

I mean does 1 pint of milk really have all the RDA of calcium?

I have read that bit of information myself but I have also read something completely different.

As vegans would most likely say, if it is calcium you are after, why get it from a cow?

Why not skip the middleman and get it from vegetation such as broccoli.

Cows don’t manufacture calcium, cows gain calcium.

Before you say anything, I am not actually vegan. But I don’t drink a lot of cow’s milk.

I buy oat milk because it tastes so much better than cows milk.

And from what I have learnt, cows milk can lead to disease.

But going back to what I first said “Does it really though?”

Well, I know for sure that oat milk tastes better than cow’s milk because I have experienced it.

Whether others agree is their own opinion.

Your body absorbs more calcium from cows milk than it does from broccoli, so in actual fact its best to drink milk to get calcium than it is to eat broccoli.

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I believe more in alternative sources over mainstream.

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Alternative sources are worth looking into.

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I don't think that is the case.As I mentioned in a reply earlier calcium from dairy is not easily absorbed because of the ratio with magnesium.The myth that dairy is a good source of calcium was started in order to use up the surplus amount of milk that had been produced sometime after the war , I think

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Penel in reply toalchemilla12

There was no surplus of milk to be got rid of after the war! Children were given milk at school because of the worry of potential malnutrition. Rationing of other foods was very severe after the war and went on for several years.

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alchemilla12 in reply toPenel

Yes I'm aware of rationing- it was still going when I was born but the free milk went on for many many years after rationing had ended

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The problem with dairy is the ratio of calcium and magnesium is not in the correct proportions to be easily absorbed - so milk looks like a good source of calcium but the body has trouble using / absorbing it

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