NATURAL FRUIT 🍎

[Hafeez058]

Fruit is an amazing source of antioxidants , phytonutrients, vitamins , minerals and fiber. Hope people understand: when we talk FRUIT it is not the same industrialized fruit juice which suffers thermic, filtration and pressure processes and some additives were added.

[Activity2004 Administrator]

Hi Hafeez058 ,

This is very interesting information about fruit. I actually had an orange with my lunch today.😀👍

Great picture!😀

[Zest]

Hi Hafeez058

What is your favourite fruit? I must say I enjoy a variety of fruits - especially blueberries and raspberries.

Zest

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star]

I used to enjoy fruit, but what about fruit sugars - don't we need to be a little careful?

Great picture.

[benwl in reply to Kitten-whiskers]

Keep on enjoying the fruit. Yes it contains calories so you don't want to eat, say 100 oranges in one go but don't let the people that want to demonise all carbs scare you off.

I eat loads of fruit, it's one of the heathiest foods around (but avoid fruit juice that is just pure sugar)

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star in reply to benwl]

Thank you Ben, I do miss fruit, have had a little but not like i used to

[Hidden in reply to Kitten-whiskers]

The fiber in the skin of some fruits can help your body to not absorb the sugars.

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star in reply to Hidden]

Really, thank you very much. That is good to know

[Cooper27 Administrator in reply to Kitten-whiskers]

I think general dietary advice is to limit fruit to about 2-3 pieces a day, so I wouldn't cut it out entirely, just be mindful not to eat crazy amounts.

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star in reply to Cooper27]

I guess you can't gp wrong eating everything in moderation - thank you Cooper 😁

[benwl in reply to Kitten-whiskers]

This is the NHS advice on the subject:

"Most of us still are not eating enough fruit and vegetables. They should make up over a third of the food we eat each day.

Aim to eat at least 5 portions of a variety of fruit and veg each day. Choose from fresh, frozen, tinned, dried or juiced."

Nowhere does it say that fruit needs to be limited.

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star in reply to benwl]

It does if you have Candida - caused by over prescribing of antibiotics. I am sure for healthy people the NHS are right. I do eat lots of veggies

[benwl in reply to Kitten-whiskers]

I don't want to come across as unnecessarily argumentative, but I don't think there's much evidence that people with candida need to limit fruit either.

I found an interesting article on the candida diet here:

healthline.com/nutrition/ca...

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star in reply to benwl]

The link is basic and covers only mild Candida. I am referring to more severe Candida - where the roots attach to the gut lining, where the candida is doing damage. I think on this we will have to agree to disagree - Dr Leon Chaitows books have got me through many a dark time when the NHS have failed, his book and the likes of Dr C Orion Truss - who studied and researched Candida and understood the truth about Candida and chronic Illnesses. I had to look beyond the NHS to start getting my health back

[robert1957 in reply to Kitten-whiskers]

Hello kitten whiskers

Please research the author Anthony William (medical medium) his explanation of Candida gives a different perspective to it good luck

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star in reply to robert1957]

Thank you Robert, I researched him a while ago - medical medium, I do prefer medical facts

Best wishes

[benwl in reply to Cooper27]

Where do you find this 'general' advice?

[Cooper27 Administrator in reply to benwl]

It's just general advice - I've seen it in many places, such as sugar free cook books, nutrition books, from the mouths of NHS dieticians and BANT registered nutritionists. I don't have links to sources, but I've heard the same advice from many independent sources.

[Cooper27 Administrator in reply to Cooper27]

huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/...

This article explains well if anyone wishes to read further.

It's important that the lion's share of your "5-a-day" comes from vegetables - so if you only eat 5 a day, 2 max. should be from fruit. If you eat 7+ you can have 3 portions of fruit.

My guess is the NHS are reluctant to say this themselves. They'll be of the opinion that 5-a-day from fruit alone is better than none a day, which is fair enough. But the NHS also counts fruit juice as a portion of fruit, and I don't think it should.

[benwl in reply to Cooper27]

The fact remains that the NHS, an organization responsible for giving health advice to the UK does not support your claim that the general advice is to limit fruit consumption.

It sounds like you are starting to go down the conspiracy theory route if you are suggesting the NHS is suppressing or not publishing the truth.

You are entitled to your opinions, and to source your health advice where-ever you wish, but I would say again that this cannot be called general advice, and you are potentially scaring people unnecessarily to present your views as though they are.

[Cooper27 Administrator in reply to benwl]

Wow. That's a bit of an extreme accusation.

All I'm doing is sharing advice I've received from a number of reliable sources (including an NHS dietician by the way). I'm not fear mongering. Not expressing my own personal view on the subject. Just passing information along to someone who asked.

It's hardly a conspiracy theory to say the NHS is trying NOT to discourage us from eating more fruit in their general dietary advice... Just simply stating why I think they haven't given guidance on what proportion of our 5 a day should be fruit Vs veg.

If you wish to pick a fight, please try somewhere else though.

[benwl in reply to Cooper27]

The most likely explanation for the NHS not discouraging people from eating more fruit is there is no reason to do so, and no evidence for it, and in fact people should be eating more fruit.

Your starting point seems to be that the correct advice is to limit fruit but the NHS isn't saying so.

[benwl]

Its not just for dessert - it's one of the heathiest foods around. Of course it breaks down to sugar, our cells use the sugar for energy.

[Mouse2001]

I love the picture - I find that real fruit is such a wonderful friend in a weight loss programme - in moderation yes, I absolutely agree. I start my day with a fruit breakfast and have fruit available for snacks. Eating more fruit helps me to feel full so I'm not reaching for other unhealthy alternatives.

[benwl]

Excess glucose doesn't necessarily get converted to fat, it depends on the degree of excess. But that's just another way of saying that if you eat too much food you'll get fat. If someones energy requirements is 2000 calories a day and they consistently eat 3000 they'll put on weight.

As long as the carbohydrates are of high quality (eg no pure refined sugar) and total calories are not excessive there is no need to limit carbs for most people.

[benwl]

Are you suggesting that I need luck because of my high carb diet?

Just checking, because i thought you didn't like sarcasm, so wasn't sure if you're being sarcastic there.

Luck is always welcome and helpful, but as far as diet is concerned I'm following what I believe is the best available scientific evidence so the role of luck is minimized.

[andyswarbs in reply to benwl]

I think we need to focus on the word "excess". Any foods in excess will likely cause weight gain. Eating fruit as part of a varied whole plant based diet will definitely not lead to weight gain.

Another key focus is fruit as whole fruit (fresh or frozen) rather than as a juice (even homemade if you are a purist) and definitely not sweetened. The fibre in the fruit is hugely important to slowing down its absorption.

Blueberries have been shown to have particulalry useful properties. The even blunt the absorption of sugars, not just in the blueberries but other foods consumed. This blunting of sugar absorption lasts over 24 hours. So a daily handful of blueberries should be recommended to anyone who is concerned about sugar levels and I would argue should be considered by everyone to be part of their diet.

[robert1957]

There appears to be a lot of fruit fear about do not be afraid to eat as much fruit as you are comfortable with your body needs fruit and vegetables to function sugars in fruit are natural ,not like the refined sugars ie white rubbish they put in processed foods. Which all the vitamins and minerals have been removed