Possible long term effects of undiagnosed temporal brain injury

[Lactoseintolerant]

hey all.

New here and I don’t know where to turn.

for years I’ve suffered with unexplainable depression, seizures memory problems and a few other issues.

I would love to connect with people who can shed some light on these issues and help me work through them.

I’ve tried talking to GPs about this but they don’t believe I’m having seizures it’s really frustrating.

My depression over the years has gotten the better of me and recently I tried to overdose on paracetamol.

I received treatment for it, but ever since then I’ve had issues eating, sleeping, balance is off, my short term memory is awful, I have constant headaches and I’m constantly tired.

I’m not sure what else to put sorry! I’m new to this.

thanks

[cat3]

Welcome L...

I hope others here on the forum, with similar issues, can identify with your struggles and offer some support. And maybe a talk with Headway staff, on the helpline, would help shed more light on your issues.

You can contact the helpline on freephone 0808 800 2244 during office hours. Staff are knowledgeable & supportive and can offer guidance in getting the most appropriate help.

Most of us here are coping with after-effects of brain injury ; mainly fatigue, memory and mobility issues, headaches and heightened emotions.

Please try the helpline (they've helped many others here) and let us know how you get on.....

Regards, Cat. 🙂

[Lactoseintolerant in reply to cat3]

Accidentally put temporal lobe when I meant frontal. Apologies

I’ll have a look into the helpline. thank you

[cat3 in reply to Lactoseintolerant]

I do empathise. Mine is a frontal lobe injury affecting balance, (often fall), word finding, emotional control and more .......still, after 12 years....

Do call the helpline L. x

[Leaf100]

Hi Lactoseintolerant

Do call headway as cat3 suggested. They are the best for resource people.

GPs , from what I understand, get something like 15 minutes of training on brain injury and it is quite specific. You really do need to see , well maybe a neuropsychistrist. Don't misunderstand the psychiatrist bit - they are mds, then psychiatrists, and then get brain training. Because they have all that they can make a clinical distinction between a brain injury (that may come with a clear MRI for instance) and something mental health related. This will help you get the right treatment, or at least keep you from getting the wrong treatment. They can also rx drugs. There are neuropsychologists who also do testing and treatment, but they can not rx drugs and do not have the same clout in the system a specialist doctor has.

I know you would like to heal as soon as possible. The thing to keep in mind is that this is not like a broken leg, where the medicals put on a cast, you wait so long, do some physio, and off you go. It's not nearly as straight forward as that. The healing process is longer , a lot of the time, anyway - and there is sometimes not much they can do for the symptoms, though some do benefit from medications especially where seizures are involved. You do need to have those checked out by someone knowledgeable.

In the meantime, get lots of rest and sleep when you can. A lot of healing happens when you sleep.

There are lots of coping strategies around and you can look into them when you are ready. For now mission one is getting the seizures investigated. So give Headway a call.

Let us know how you get on.

Leaf

[Lactoseintolerant in reply to Leaf100]

Thank you for all your help. Over the years I’ve given up hope with finding a diagnosis: I just thought it was “all in my head”

The closest I had to drs investigating my seizures was this;

“We can’t do anything unless we can see you having an episode. But I do think it’s anxiety related”

90% of I’m conscious when having them. But I have blacked out a few times with them.

Sometimes they’re that scary I cry afterwards and on the rare occasions I’ve wet myself too.

But I’m worried that the injury occurred so long ago that the specialists will say that it’s not the cause of my symptoms.

If I’m honest I do feel like I’m not “me” I’ve always felt like I’m merely observing the world instead of being actually “here” if that makes sense.

It’s like I’m looking through someone else’s eyes. Like im in a computer game. I hope this all makes sense

Thanks

[Leaf100]

I am wondering if they have got hung up on your use of the word seizure. Some of the medical people can be dismissive if you use a medical term you haven't been diagnosed with, rather than understanding you are doing your best to describe something that is happening to you.

What I hear the doc saying is basically they think you are having some sort of panic attack.

Are they saying you have ptsd then?

I used to have episodes of extreme dizziness where literally all I could do was lay on the bathroom floor...and if I moved even a little I would throw up. I guess I could feel it coming in as I would end up in the loo. I started putting a bucket and a blanket in the cupboard so I could get to them.

I never got any explanation from the specialist. He literally had nothing to say about them. Except he did make some comment once and followed it by saying - 'if that's what's happening'...not in disbelief but as in there could be more than one thing and he wasn't that concerned about them.

I also vaguely remember it mattered if you remembered them or not. He did get me checked for epilepsy early on. Have you been tested?

If it is ptsd perhaps you are a candidate for EMDR, which a treatment for PTSD. It works for some and not others.

It sounds to me like you are a bit dissassociative and that is common in brain injury.

Various forms of impact on emotions are common as well. Mine don't work the way they used to. Many bi people get more emotional and I am less emotional and have trouble with people misreading me.

I would try keeping a log. Note if you go out, have appointments, the weather, whether a storm is coming in, what you ate. Etc. If you do this and note the attack, you may be able to see a pattern and that might help.

Unfortunately some medical people are very u helpful.

Do talk to Headway. Ask of they know of bi literate gps etc in your area . Some are more better informed than others, or might be more patient centric than others - meaning they ate better listeners.

It socks to go through stuff without a satisfying answer and no management tips or anything given.

Keep us posted.

Leaf

[Lactoseintolerant in reply to Leaf100]

Hey thanks for the info.

As for the seizures… the first full blown one I had was when I was at a friends house. We were playing on his GameCube.

One minute I was sitting next to him, the next thing I remember was being wheeled out on a stretcher by paramedics. I can’t remember much after that.

As for the other ones;

I can feel them coming, I get a feeling of dejavu, a rising sensation in my belly and incoherent thoughts racing through my mind. They don’t last long but I feel disoriented and squeeze with them. After the episodes pass I feel tired and a bit dizzy. Again sometimes they’ve made me cry.

I’ve told countless gps this and they all think it’s in my head. I did have an app on my phone with a timer and a space to write down symptoms which I’ve now deleted because I’m sick and tired of trying to ask for help regarding this problem with doctors.

When I have them I just keep my mouth shut and don’t tell anyone. I don’t see the point.

As for the dissociative stuff, I’ve grown used to that now… I’ve always said to people i don’t really feel like I’m “me”, and that usually gets varied responses like:

“I worry about you”

“You’re not right in the head” (in a joking way) and stuff like that.

I know I shouldn’t say this but I have attempted suicide on multiple occasions because I really don’t like not being “me”.

Again I know people say that with certain head injuries, suicide is an impulsive thing… but it’s getting to a stage where I really don’t wanna be here anymore.

My problem is, I’m not very good at planning things and that has led to failed attempts 😂

I don’t want anyone to start panicking and start asking me to “seek help”. This reply isn’t about that.

I know everyone goes through tough times in their lives, some harder than others. But it’s all subjective. And 90% of the time I do feel like I’ve had enough.

Sorry for rambling on

[lcd8]

So sorry to hear you are suffering with all this. I'm afraid I don't have anything great to add. But please try not to feel you are alone with all this. I really hope that Headway can help you. Trouble is there's still so much about the brain and brain injury that medics simply don't know. Its immensely frustrating. I have come to the conclusion that GPs know next to nothing of this as they've tried to fob me off before also. Hope you're able to persevere. Good luck.

[Lactoseintolerant in reply to lcd8]

I also think that GPs have no idea about brain traumas too.

Hopefully one day we’ll all get the help we so need.

[Nemo24]

Definitely start with a call to Headways helpline. Have they always been an issue or something triggered it? Difficult when your memory is affected. Do you have any talking therapies local to you? They may help too. Best of luck.

[followfranco]

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