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RodeoJoe
RodeoJoe

Have any of you good people tried a Keto diet? I've had weight issues since my 30s and certainly since I was diagnosed.

I started a keto diet (no carbs) about 3 months ago and its transformed my life. Firstly of course weight, down about 2.5 stone. But also aches and pains and IBS has all but disappeared. I'm starting to think that a lot of my weight might have been inflammation. And wondered if theres a correlation between carbs and coeliac disease.

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Hi RodeoJoe,

I’ve been on a keto diet for over 18 months.

I’m not sure there’s a direct correlation between carbs and coeliac disease; however I know that many of my own ongoing gastric symptoms resolved themselves when I made the switch to keto.

I tried coming off it around Christmas time last year- and it was surprising how quickly many of the symptoms started to return. I decided that eating rice, potatoes, crisps and cake etc. just wasn’t worth the price I had to pay in terms of my health!

I suspect that Candida might have been a factor in my health issues; but perhaps not the only contributing cause.

I'm glad to hear you've seen an improvement on a keto diet.

It might be worth considering what foods you cut out with the diet that might have helped? For example, less processed foods, perhaps oats or other grains were causing cross-reaction, no dextrose (often derived from wheat), no soya (a common cross-reaction food).

In many ways, I suspect what you're doing is akin to an elimination diet - if you do reintroduce any of the old foods you've cut out, try to introduce small amounts only, and to monitor symptoms in the immediate days following.

Keto works really well. I do mine dairy free and more carnivore. It's amazing for health. It's how our ancestors lived and ate. I just don't recommend the Keto "cheats." The processed junk and artificial sweeteners do a world of internal damage. Stay healthy !

Someone has debunked this. There's good Ted Talk on how this is not the paleo diet people think it was, and our ancestors ate pretty much as we do only without the processed food and access to mass grown grains.

RodeoJoe
RodeoJoe in reply to Benjamin123

Farming is relatively modern 12,000yrs, the modern human is between 200,000 and 300,000.

Hi I have been trying to do the Keto diet for the last few weeks but am struggling to find a plan of what to eat.

I need to be organised and have things pre-prepared so I am not thinking what I am going to make with only half an hour before mealtimes.

Did anyone whose done keto go on any diet plans or use any books to help them as I am really struggling thinking of what to eat everyday. I have thought about signing up for Dr Unwins low carb plan and also myperfectketo diet plan but its not easy as you have to pay the money out before seeing whether it would be suitable.

I am now thinking for trying to go on the potato diet for a week to kick start weightloss as its supposed to reset your gut microbiome and reset your tastes.

Any help would be appreciated

Penel
Penel in reply to tmoxon

Have a look at the LCHF site, lots of advice.

healthunlocked.com/lchf-diet

Not sure that a potato diet is going to be much help, especially if you want to lose weight (?). If you want to improve your gut bacteria, the usual advice is to eat a wide variety of vegetables.

Mise
Mise in reply to Penel

We tried the potato diet in Ireland. Led to famine and mass starvation. Not to be recommended.....

Penel
Penel in reply to Mise

Can I laugh and cry at this?

Mise
Mise in reply to Penel

Do a bit of both!

tmoxon
tmoxon in reply to Mise

Very funny. Yes I think a lot of people blame the Irish potato famine for CD as I think some doctors describe it as the Irish disease, had my DNA done on ancestry to find I have a lot of Irish DNA so maybe its true

Mise
Mise in reply to tmoxon

I have read sources saying Ireland has highest rate of CD in world, with West of Ireland highest in Ireland. One of the arguements was that it had a genetic mix that had remained unchanged for centuries. Other sources have stated other parts of the world higher/as high and name a tribe in North Africa has highest rate in World and Basque region also quite high. I do think the famine years/decades have had impact on Irish DNA that really hasn't been fully explored. Our DNA apparently can be effected as far back as great grandparents which puts me in the 'famine DNA' category, and probably yourself given your high level of Irish DNA.

tmoxon
tmoxon in reply to Mise

Hi Mise No I don't know of anyone in my family who is from Ireland, and we have gone back quite far. I got the DNA kit from ancestry at Christmas last year and it came back to say I was 40 % Northern Irish, lots of other people who have the same DNA as me are Irish. Its just updated again and now it says 20% Irish and 35% Scottish. The Irish is very specific, it says from Northern Ireland - Ulster area, when I did a search last year I found this theceliacscene.com/major-dn...

Mise
Mise in reply to tmoxon

That's interesting. Northern Ireland has strong Scottish links, and Ulter Scots are a known group of people in Northern Ireland, so makes sense if DNA now shows Scottish. I'd quite like to have a DNA test done. Quite exciting to see what results come back.

tmoxon
tmoxon in reply to Mise

Oh thanks I didn't know that, someone I saw on a forum has just had the same thing, they have had their results change from Irish to Scottish and they were born in Ireland. If you are wanting to have your DNA analysed, Amazon usually discount it around Black Friday time, we paid £49 inc post which is significantly cheaper. If you are wanting a health check one, 23andme.com/en-gb have half price offer at the moment

Mise
Mise in reply to tmoxon

That's good to know. Thank you.

tmoxon
tmoxon in reply to Mise

Your Welcome

tmoxon
tmoxon in reply to Penel

Hi Penel thank you for the link, I wouldn't have thought to look on here for that sort of advice. With regards to the potato diet, someone I know went on it and lost 7lbs in a week. Its something we thought of trying to kick start us off on weightloss as although we've lost a bit on our version of the keto diet its not dropped off us like people say

Cooper27
Cooper27 in reply to tmoxon

The potato diet is intriguing, it seems to be quite helpful for some in kicking off their diet (I think Penn of Penn & Teller is a heavy advocate of it). It's not a particularly sustainable diet, and I think you would have the same issue coming out the other end of it, in that you wouldn't have a meal plan. It'd make you more likely to go back to old eating habits again.

There are quite a few free keto meal plans out there if you Google them. Diet doctor also has quite a few free resources, and they offer a free trial for the first week, so you can work out if you like it or not.

tmoxon
tmoxon in reply to Cooper27

Hi Cooper27 yes that is how we were going to try it, just for a week, we also saw Penn on Youtube saying he went on it and his cravings for poor food went. It was also on the Channel 4 diet programme, two friends tried a week of dieting, one on cabbage soup the other on the potato diet, the potato diet one lost 12lbs and the cabbage soup about 5lbs. I think losing weight fast might kickstart me on keeping it off more., but understand that I wont be able to stay on it for long, thanks for your help

RodeoJoe
RodeoJoe in reply to tmoxon

A potato diet would be the opposite of keto, I wouldn't suggest it. I used this web site dietdoctor.com/

It couldn't be simpler as there are 2 week introductory menus with shopping lists, then after that literally hundreds of recipes to choose from. The best bit is the first month is free and then after that $10 a month. I quit after 2 months as I was just going over the same recipes that I liked and knew what the shopping list was.

Also there's loads of resources to explain how it works and best practice etc etc...

tmoxon
tmoxon in reply to RodeoJoe

Thanks Rodeojoe I have looked at this site before and used a couple of recipes. I will have a look again and sign up. Will try the potato diet first and then try this, thanks for the recommendation

I've considered Keto diet, but I'm already on a back footing of being underweight and this seems to be a route that leads to weight loss. It's also the lack of food options and fact that too much animal protein is bad for bones. I think carbs and inflammation go hand in hand and I've had to ditch sugar as it sets my joints on fire, so your good results would fit that model. I was told by a physio once that there is research happening on carbs/inflammation that shows eating some carbs on a regular basis raises inflammation, i.e. bread with lunch, or potatoes with dinner, but that eating a massive amount of carbs in one go can actually reduce inflammation, e.g. massive bowl/plate of pasta. It's an odd one really. There use to be a diet that focussed on food combining and not mixing carbs and proteins. Do you recommend any Keto website's you've used/books? I've also been told to look out for lectins which carb foods have a lot of.

Penel
Penel in reply to Mise

You could perhaps look at lowish-carb, rather than full Keto, doesn’t have to be a high protein diet (but of course it depends on your definition of high protein). Your carbs could come from root vegetables.

Probably not a good idea to stay in Keto for long, unless you have a problem like metabolic syndrome.

This site has a lot of info on putting on weight, aimed at young men wanting to ‘bulk up’ :)

dietdoctor.com/low-carb/gai...

Perhaps have a look at the LCHF site I mentioned.

Mise
Mise in reply to Penel

Brilliant, thank you for that. I think, as you say, it's a short-ish term experiment to see what comes from it. I've read somewhere also that, for some reason, women over 40 (ekk...) seem to become more intolerant to carbs, i.e. more likely to experience high inflammation from them. I've seen some extreme options that people are doing, including meat only diets when everything seems to cause inflammation and they get good results.

RodeoJoe
RodeoJoe in reply to Mise

Interesting, and so glad the calories in and out theories are being questioned as low calorie diets have never been sustainable for me.

As above dietdoctor.com/ is a great web site, it's certainly not all about bulking up has loads of articles etc and limits proteins as well as carbs as from what I understand too many proteins will take you out of ketosis.

Has loads of plans and the first month is free then $10/month, hundreds of recipes you can put together a week and then get a shopping list, can even make it vegetarian or non dairy. All of it by default if GF. It's really simple. I only needed it for 2 months before I got the hang of it so only spent $20.

Mise
Mise in reply to RodeoJoe

Thank you!

Penel
Penel in reply to Mise

Just to add, when it comes to carbs: looking at the GI index / load is useful. Potatoes and bread are higher GI than pasta, meaning that you’re getting a quicker hit of sugar from the higher GI foods.

Government advice on diet for many years has been to base our meals around carbohydrates (and avoid fat). Unfortunately for many people this means that, by the time they are over 40, there’s a good chance that they are beginning to develop the problems associated with metabolic syndrome. Years of having to deal with over processed carbs, breakfast cereal, supermarket bread etc, can prove to be damaging, we can become carb intolerant / insulin resistant.

There is no one ‘ideal’ diet, but avoiding highly processed foods is the one thing they all have in common. Writers like Gary Taubes and Dr Robert Lustig have informative books on the subject.

Glad to hear that you are doing so well on your change in diet!

I have been on LCHF for several weeks. I think the main link to CD is that by giving up all grains it becomes unnecessary to worry about ingredients lists, cross contamination in processed foods, and whether GF really means GF - because it means only eating real vegetables, meat and dairy, all of which are totally and naturally free of gluten.

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