Gluten and Lactose free diet

[Lesley66]

New here, don't know much about all of this. I am Celiac and have alot of gut pain,bloating so badly it hurts. They have me on a Gluten and Lactose free diet. Wow, what do you eat? Help lol

[Lisahelen]

Probably the easiest start for you would be to go fresh meat and veg as much as possible. There are some suitable things in the free from aisles but you will have to start looking at all the labels.

If you havent joined the coeliac society it might help you to do so. They now have an app where you put in the type of diet you need and then scan each product and it will tell you if it is one you are able to have.

[Lesley66 in reply to Lisahelen]

Thank you, and the Coeliac Society how or where do you join that? Thank you for your information.

[Lisahelen in reply to Lesley66]

Www.coeliac.org.uk

📞 0333 332 2033

Think it was £24 per year but they send out loads of info and money offs. They also try to match you with a local support group.

You could also try Juvela. And Glutafin. For free sample packs both have sent me a large box of goodies. Not sure if because you need to go lactose free as well whether they will be able to give as many though.

[Jaxp1 in reply to Lisahelen]

What would you recommend for a coeliac who is also vegetarian? As I refuse to eat “fresh meat”

[Hidden in reply to Jaxp1]

Are you also dairy free?

[Jaxp1 in reply to Hidden]

I am , dairy and gluten free

[Hidden in reply to Jaxp1]

Tough call for a veggie. You surviving?

[Jaxp1 in reply to Hidden]

Just lol x

[Lesley66]

Thank you so much! Have a good night .

[pvanderaa]

Why lactose? Should this not be casein protein in the milk instead? Lactose is the sugar. Casein is the protein, which is similar to gluten.

Then you would also need to stay away from whey protein which is also a food additive. Cheese, etc all dairy products.

[Lesley66 in reply to pvanderaa]

They have stopped all dairy products

[Lesley66 in reply to pvanderaa]

I don't know, they have me on gluten and Lactose free. Very difficult to find things to eat. So expensive also. So would the Casin be meats also?

[pvanderaa in reply to Lesley66]

I'm gluten and dairy free and, you are right, it is hard sometimes to find stuff to eat. Butter is an issue for me so I ask for vegetable oil.

I also have issues with soya so it is even harder. I've also recently given up eggs due to GI issues, but I may start again while cooking with a new oil. I was using olive oil but heard that there are lots of contamination issues due to corruption.

Meat, fish, rice, kale, fruits are my staples. I have found Udi whole grain gluten free a very nice bread but it is more expensive than regular bread. I figure I just stop comparing price and only use what works within my budget.

Salsa is my go to acid source for most meals, including breakfast .

[Galixie in reply to pvanderaa]

The reason many celiacs need to go lactose free in the beginning is because damage to the villi make it difficult to digest lactose. Many celiacs are able to resume eating dairy products after their gut has had sufficient time to heal.

Separately, it is also possible to be sensitive or allergic to the proteins in dairy (casein and whey), but that would be unrelated to having celiac disease.

[Venetia]

sugars are digested on the top brush borders of villi in the intestine and these are damaged in coeliac disease which causes the malabsorption.

As villi recover the lactose intolerance usually improves till one may be able to tolerate lactose again, BUT if you are Celiac you can't have gluten again...

Hopefully you will have a referral to a dietitian as well, this can help, but do join Coeliac UK. Lisahelen has helpfully given the details...

[Lesley66 in reply to Venetia]

Thank you

[Nickibmibile]

I went dairy free before going gluten free and it was really hard. I was so used to using milk, cheese and butter in my cooking and it was a real challenge I can tell you. Happily for me I discovered that eggs aren't a problem for me so I eat lots of them 😊 Then my gut problems got worse and to reduce the inflammation and bloating a gluten free diet was suggested. Now I mainly eat high protein meals of chicken, steak etc with veggies or salad. No sauces or fancy dressings and no puddings either. It is hard some days, meals out are a nightmare y overall I feel better so consider it worth it. Good luck with your dietary changes 😁

[Lesley66 in reply to Nickibmibile]

Thank you

[Lesley66 in reply to Nickibmibile]

Glad your doing well with it!

[Heman69]

I eat Everything made out of rice basically as I'm the same as you and Arla lactose free milk oh and veg and chicken or beef.

[Heman69]

You can have Arla lactose free milk and cream and hard cheese is ok apparently as long as it's not soft.

[Lesley66 in reply to Heman69]

Right, they have me drinking almond or coconut milk. I don't like the coconut, but I drink the sugar free almond milk. It is going to take awhile because I was a big milk drinker.

[Lesley66 in reply to Lesley66]

I will have to check and see if I can find the Arla milk for a change. Thank you

[FFNick]

Cutting out bread, cake and biscuits is good news. At first changing your diet is daunting but over the years it becomes second nature. Making the change in diet is so relieving.

For a treat try chocolate coated rice cakes. Chocolate might be a problem. Plain rice cakes are safe and a good method to carry other treats.

Trial and error may be way at first as each person's diet is peculiar to each individual. Sometimes derivatives are hidden on ingredients.

[Lesley66 in reply to FFNick]

That sounds good

[Lesley66 in reply to Lesley66]

Thank you

[Lesley66 in reply to FFNick]

So horrible when I have cravings for certain things,and can't have it. My biggest is ice cream, cold things like that.

[Nickibmibile in reply to FFNick]

chocolate is s problem for me 😞 very often recipes contain chocolate and I find it really frustrating. I actually like soya milk which has been a surprise but I don't like almond ir coconut which seems weird. It's a steep learning curve 😁

[Lesley66 in reply to Nickibmibile]

I will have to try the soya milk. Thanks for the info

[Penel]

Hi Lesley

if you google "gluten free, lactose free recipes" you will find lots of ideas. There are plenty of alternatives to gluten based foods and flours, apart from rice. Have a look at things like quinoa, buckwheat and amaranth. Many countries around the world don't use wheat or dairy in their cookery.

As Lisahelen has said, best to stick to the basic foods until your insides have improved. Cooking from scratch is usually a good idea. I would suggest limiting the amount of supermarket ready made "free from" foods, because of the amounts of sugar and unhealthy additives in a lot of them.

There are alternative 'milks', apart from lactose free dairy, but be careful of the additives. Soya doesn't suit everybody. We don't need to get our calcium from just dairy, make sure you're eating sardines, seeds, nuts, green veg. Include legumes/beans, if you are ok with them.

[Lesley66 in reply to Penel]

I love shelled beans, but I get a little of cramping with those. I will have to try legumes, never have. Thank you

[Zoe26w]

My 17 yr old daughter is coeliac, she was told to give up dairy for 6 months so her gut could heal. She is now back on dairy (a year later) I gave up gluten to help support her and gave since given up dairy too,(by choice,) I have to admit, I feel so much better for it. I usually take soup to work and chopped up fruit and maybe a bag of quinoa chips to snack on, I have cheap soya milk in tea as it's the closest taste to cows milk. I have wanted to do this for years but thought it would be really hard, I'm amazed at how easy it's been, I guess I'm lucky that I get to make these choices. Meant my head was in the right place, must be awfull being told you can eat certain things. We have cauliflower rice and courgette spaghetti mostly, if it's chocolate you think you'll miss, frys chocolate creme is gluten free and some dark chocolate too. I now eat more seeds/nuts/veg and can honestly say it's one of the best things I've ever done. I try to avoid free from alternatives as mentioned above, they're loaded with junk. Hope this gives you some help, shout if you want any meal ideas. Good luck x

[Lesley66 in reply to Zoe26w]

I would love some meal Ideas. Thank you so much!

[Lesley66]

Thanks

[Lesley66 in reply to Lesley66]

Are most vegetables ok to have?

[Lesley66]

Thank you Galixie. I wonder if things will taste funny if and when they let me do that. Oh miss my milk and ice cream so much. Lol we shall see

[Nickibmibile in reply to Lesley66]

I buy sorbet instead of ice-cream and there are some delicious flavours out there, it's worth a try x

[Lesley66 in reply to Nickibmibile]

I will have to try it. It is Lactose and gluten free right lol. Thanks alot

[Nickibmibile in reply to Lesley66]

the ones I've tried have been, I suppose some might have gluten in you've got me thinking now 😌

[Zoe26w]

Must admit I buy the tesco splits, ice cream with ice lolly surrounding it, they're gluten and dairy free and just as good as any others. I'm a massive tea drinker, the tesco value unsweetened soya milk is my favourite milk for tea, found the nut milks too sweet, rice milk was watery. I have a lot of stir fry type meals, with turkey mince (just cause there's less fat and also oily fish too) I bought a spiraliser to use instead of pasta, so I use lots of courgettes/butternut squash/ sweet potato etc, use stores own stock cubes as oxo aren't gf, bisto best is ok for instant gravy.(the glass jar ones) you'll find you'll start to look at food differently soon and experiment more, I'm 43 and have pretty much cooked the same things forever, I'm much more adventurous nowadays so in many ways it's been a good thing for the whole family (I have 5 children) we all understand nutrition more and eat cleaner foods (bought a greenhouse and chickens to help with this) lol, good luck xx

[Jacks]

Same diet here. I use all the Lactofree products, except the fruit yoghurt. They do a 500ml plain yoghurt now. The dairy spread is just like any spreadable butter. Careful with some spreads as they contain lactose. Scharr even do a frozen gf/lactose free pizza - I add a load of extra stuff on top 'cause it looks a bit mean.

Almond Dream do an ice cream substitute that's worth eating - mint choc chip, vanilla and caramel. Not had the latter but first two taste good.

Careful with some soya milk as it isn't all gluten free. Tesco do a pack of two deserts in the free-from chilled section - Tiramisu and lemon? They were okay.

Gravy - sachets of Kallo free-from are brilliant. A bit expensive but convincing.

There are lactase enzymes you can take but not all (namely Holland and Barratts, so avoid these) are gluten free. Solgar were good but don't meet the 20ppm so avoid these. I can get away with some dairy with a couple of enzymes.

[Lesley66 in reply to Jacks]

Thank you for the info. I am definitely going to try some of these. Miss the cold treats,so hopefully this will be a great help.

[kaspa]

Hi Lesley, after 6 months gluten and dairy free my symptoms have settled well so there is light at the end of the tunnel.

I've found too much rice causes me problems so eat lots of veggies, fish and meat. Some meal ideas that we enjoy are....

Courgetti, raw or warmed with fried sliced onions, spices, olives, herbs and/or lots of sauce

Boodles (butternut squash noodles take 3 mins in the bag in the microwave) and toppings

Red lentil pasta was okay but expensive.

Baked potatoes/oven baked chips

Sweet potatos in many forms including homemade sweet potato roti (soft gf flatbread) youtube.com/watch?v=WRj0tPE...(Not working as expected?) use gf plain flour and freeze some for another day

mini minted chickpea and pea patties (blitz a tin of drained chickpeas and 200g defrosted peas and tbsp fresh mint) form into balls roll in sesame seeds or gf crumbs and bake in oven. Freeze some. serve with salad, veg, curry etc

same idea as above with cooked sweet potato and chick peas and fresh coriander. roll in seeds or crumbs, bake in oven. freeze some.

Courgette crispy chips - cut courgettes into long chip like pieces, dip in egg, roll in a mixture of parmesan crumbs (if tolerated) and sesame seeds/ gf crumbs/ ground almonds. Bake in oven on parchment til crispy.

Grill a layer of onion and sliced peppers drizzled with oil, turning and grilling, cover with thin courgette slices and grill, turn & grill , top with thin aubergine and grill, etc, etc, serve drizzled with tahini mint sauce, spices, chopped herbs, lemon or lime juice, with marinated fish or meat or plain.

[Rozieb]

Good evening to you all,

I have found that fresh soya milk in the chilling cabinet is much much nicer than uht on ordinary shelves. It doesn't have the strange taste left in your

I have just had to go gluten and wheat free after being dairy free for a number of years. It's hard isn't it.

Hope you are all battling hard.

Kind regards to all