Flu jab.

[Alison_71]

Hi I was diagnosed as a coeliac a year ago and I have been told today at the doctor's that I'm eligible for a flu jab. Is this normal for all coeliacs.

[Regalbirdy]

Hi Alison,

It's certainly normal in my area too (in the West Midlands). I get offered one every year. I think we qualify because Coeliac Disease is an autoimmune condition.

[Alison_71 in reply to Regalbirdy]

Hi Regalbirdy.

Thanks for your reply. I shall go and get it done.

[BabsyWabsy in reply to Alison_71]

Where I live, in Yorkshire, it is offered to anyone with a long term / chronic condition.

[Adnil]

Yes it is usually recommended, I have been Coeliac for over 28 years and had a flu jab virtually every year since diagnosis, initially on my GP's recommendation and nowadays because I am 'elderly'!

[mod187]

Hi,

My daughters (both coeliac) were also offered the flu jab, but we declined as they have been following a strict diet and have TTG below 10 so really should have normal immunity, my change as they get older.

[CATRYNA49]

This request from a doctor is pretty standard. My own doctor a year ago wanted me to come in and start on a series of vaccines, to get me up to date, since I had not received a vaccine in 55 years or since 1963. The vaccines she had listed were; Tetanus (DTaP), Shingles, Flu, Pneumonia, Hep A and Hep B. I reminded her that I have already been diagnosed with autoimmune issues (Hashimotos and Celiac) and getting vaccines were not in my best interest. She agreed and took them off the table and I have not heard about them since, from her. Keep in mind, one of the things that vaccines do, is cause lymphocytes to respond by producing antibodies. When that happens and they don't turn off, it becomes an autoimmune situation. Celiac is often caused by vaccines as vaccines are notable for gut damage. No vaccines for those of us who have Celiac or anyone who suffers any kind of autoimmune problems. All they would be doing is causing our already immune systems that are in overdrive to become even more so and that is the opposite of what we need.

[Penel]

Coelilac U.K. advice on flu vaccinations is that they may not be necessary, unless you have problems with your spleen.

coeliac.org.uk/coeliac-dise...

[CATRYNA49]

If you have Celiac, you have autoimmune issues. Never, ever get a vaccine. It's quite possible that the majority of us have autoimmune issues because of vaccine reactions having ruined our guts.

[Penel in reply to CATRYNA49]

Do you have any articles you could post on this subject? Vaccinations could theoretically cause problems, but is there evidence to support this?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/237...

[CATRYNA49 in reply to Penel]

The very nature of this sentence in the Pubmed article you included; "By contrast, absolute evidence exists that infectious agents can trigger autoimmune mechanisms and that they do cause autoimmune diseases." mentions the term "infectious agents." Infectious agents are described as "Infections are caused by infectious agents including viruses, viroids, prions, bacteria, nematodes such as parasitic roundworms and pinworms, arthropods such as ticks, mites, fleas, and lice, fungi such as ringworm, and other macroparasites such as tapeworms and other helminths." Keep in mind that vaccines include viruses, bacteria and many are being made with all manner of insects, not to mention blood products from many different animals and humans, aborted fetal tissue as well as other questionable ingredients; antibiotics, aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, MSG, sucrose, food dyes, glycerin, castor oil, polysorbate 80, etc.

Here is a link to all of the ingredients listed in vaccines according to the CDC:

cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkb...

Many of these ingredients are dangerous to everyone, but some are of even more concern to those of us who are Celiac and especially those who suffer from Dermatitis Herpetiformis (a Celiac skin disorder).

Here are several other links to discussions and concerns about vaccines and autoimmune issues. Keep in mind the adjuvants in vaccines are designed to stimulate the immune system, but in many of us this turns into a nightmare of autoimmune when our immune systems are unable to turn off.

info.cmsri.org/the-driven-r...

everydayhealth.com/autoimmu...

wiley.com/en-us/Vaccines+an...

[Alison_71]

Thanks for all your replies, very interesting posts on the subject. Think I'm going to give the flu jab a miss as I have never suffered with flu in the past.

[m0ezp in reply to Alison_71]

Sorry didn't see your last post. I had flu three years ago and was laid very low for weeks. My experience last year didn't put me off having the flu jab this year which I did a couple of weeks ago. I felt a bit off for a day that's all.

Good luck with whatever you decide

[m0ezp]

Hi,

If you haven't had the jab yet. I would advise though if you are offered pneumonia jab at the same time as flu to delay the pneumonia one for a couple of weeks.

I had both at the same time last year and ended up very ill with my whole arm infected with cellulitis which I'd never had before. The doctors assumption was that both jabs at the same time was too much for coeliacs to deal with as we have an impaired immune system.

David

[Alison_71 in reply to m0ezp]

Thanks for your reply. I will take into consideration about not having the two jabs at the same time if I have it done. What I don't understand is if I did get flu would I be affected more because I'm a coeliac ?

[Penel in reply to Alison_71]

This is a difficult question to answer. There is some evidence that coeliacs may be more affected by flu, but this is not a certainty. Flu can be a really nasty illness, whether you are Coeliac or not.

[m0ezp]

I think the doctors' believe that we should have flu jabs because our immune systems are compromised to some degree and so we'd have a harder time fighting off flu. Personally, the flu I had three years ago wasn't any worse than I had twenty years or so ago (which was before I believe I became coeliac - although you never really know do you).

[Marz]

Keeping your VitD level around 100 can help to protect you. Reading the website of Dr Sircus where he is currently talking about protecting against the Coronavirus. Sadly our media tell us nothing about 'protection' - VitD - VitC - Zinc - good hydration and so on are all helpful.