I can’t even bear to tell my family yet after it’s another BFN. 5 BFN and 1 chemical, I think. With no reasons it’s not happening, I feel like I should be grateful there’s no reason.
I would like to hear the stories of multiple failed transfers with no explanation ending in the outcome we are all hoping and praying for 💖
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I have no stories , but sending you a big hug and lots of love your way ♥️, I recently heard ivf is a course of treatment , hopefully you’re very close to your dream coming true xx
I'm so sorry. The not knowing and no explanations is its own kind of torture. I think you know my story so won't bore you with it again, but hopefully others can share some success stories x
My heart goes out to you.. sending you lots of virtual hugs. I wish I had a story of multiple failed transfers, with no explanation, ending with success... unfortunately I'm still waiting for my HE too. But I just wanted to let know that you're in my thoughts. Take care of yourself during this difficult and disappointing time ❤️
aw I’m so sorry hun.. sending you hugs xx your time will come lovely xx I’ve had 5 failed transfers one of those was a miscarriage and one was a chemical. It’s a real rollercoaster but it’ll happen and when it does it’ll be the best feeling ever xx
So sorry to hear lovely x it’s just the worst. I had a BFN on this cycle too. It’s devastating 😔
That was my 7 th transfer. I have one more left to try and then I’m moving to donor embryos. Still no guarantee with that either I know but I’m not giving up.
Just give yourself some time and then keep soldiering on xxxx
I’m already using DE. I thought by removing my age as a factor it would happen. I’m not giving up yet. Still 2 frosties from this round to go… So sorry you’re feeling the same 😓 x
so sorry Doodlebug23 . Hope you are ok. I’ve had a failed round this time too. That’s the 5th round. Never had a positive. I’m sure there will be success stories out there. hopefully we are not too far away from our very own success story xx
Yes I have 2 left too. I think I’ll do double again. Want to ask clinics opinion though as my chemical was on a single so seemed to mage it a bit further. I had steroids added this transfer but at a lower dose than most seem to have x
I am so sad to hear this. Genuinely had everything crossed for you. I’ve heard of people who’ve had 9/10 transfers and then it finally worked for them. Easier said than done to keep going I know. Look after yourself and do some nice things for you. Sending you a big hug xx
I’ve had double La the past 2 transfers. I have 2 frosties left. My clinic don’t seem to think a double gives less chance to then embryos, and putting 2 in just saves on more transfers. But I do want to ask them about it as my chemical (only ever positive) was on a single x
I'm so sorry you're going through this doodle bug. It's so disheartening. We had 6 failed transfers), plus a year of trying with a donor at home. We were about to give up. But It was 7th transfer lucky for us)(embryos 9&10 - currently 30 weeks with twins!) They never really found anything wrong! So so many investigations but all were inconclusive. (I did use embryo glue, steroids and an extra day of progesterone, but none were "proven" to help me!)
This will be me next time! Transfer 7 with likely embryos 9&10.
I had a hyteroscopy and endo zapped before my NH round several years ago with OE.
With my clinic in Spain they have done all basic tests and no issues. No high uterine contractions, added HCG wash, steroids, clexane, embryo glue. My progesterone day before transfer always comes back as optimal so no extra needed on top of 2 pessaries.
Thankyou for sharing your story. I am now your wannabe 😅 💖
Ahh yes I did some extra hcg before as well (hcg 'clicks' rather than a wash! The embryo glue, steroids. No extra progesterone just pessaries, but for 6 days before transfer not 5 as standard. I actually did more like 5.5 days.
I think I’m evidence of the happy ending you are looking for. I had 8 transfers 1 chemical and finally , with my last embryo a BFP. no real for the failures always top quality embryos, lining etc. Still a long way to go for me but you will get there. I used your words of encouragement to keep me going this round ‘ I deserve this baby’.
I have faith you will get the outcome you desire ❤️
I am so sorry…. One of my friends got lucky on transfer number 8 with her 9th embryo, who is now a healthy 1 year old. Don’t give up your dream and don’t give up hope. We’re all rooting for you here.
I’m so sorry to hear this ❤️ I have no stories as I have only had 1 failed transfer and doing long protocol this time so not due for my next transfer for another few week.
Be kind to yourself and have lots of cuddles with your partner. If you can keep going then do.
Did you use embryo glue? I know they say there is no real evidence to say that it works but I’m am having it this round just so I know I have done what I can. It doesn’t cause any harm to use it so you could try that with you having issues with implantation.
I’m doing this on my own. Fur babies are stepping up to the plate 🐶 🐱
Good luck with your transfer. I had embryo glue added this last transfer. I intend to ask for it next one too. Anything extra that helps then we will do it won’t we! 💖
I won’t. I have 2 frosties left this round. One is a lower grade, so maybe that’s my little girl just waiting patiently to get to her turn 🥶🩷 and bring her brother along to bully! 💙
Hi. I'm so sorry for another BFN. I have a story of hope that I posted about recently - always negative and then a positive on my 9th transfer which was my 11th embryo. Never a reason and always high quality with good lining etc. healthunlocked.com/fertilit...
I’m so sorry to read this. Was really hoping this was your time. Still on my journey so no positive stories from me yet but I do remember reading some stories from ladies where it worked in the end after multiple transfers. Don’t lose faith- easier said than done I know Xx
oh sweetheart, that having to tell your mum or whatever family you have is almost the worst bit, they ask why and you just don’t have an answer. I can’t even tell you how many I had, 9 maybe 10 it was all so exhausting I lost track of everything. Eventually I kind of forgot it was about having a baby it was about injections & timings & scans I got so used to failure I just expected it & was planning the next one. But i can tell you that 3.5 years after starting I’m 15 weeks and now worrying and complaining about pregnancy 😂 I see all of the journey as preparation ground now. I thought I was tough before this journey has made me so strong & the best preparation for motherhood. This is just your ‘readying’ time. It will happen x
I messaged my sister. She’s going to speak to my mum. She doesn’t ask lots of questions like she does.
Congratulations! I’ve seen a few posts on here about moving on from the stress of BFP to the stress of viability scan then early pregnancy. I had a mc at 9+4 natural several years ago, so I know I’ll be on egg shells till I get past that mark.
I totally feel like I’m just repeating an expensive stressful hobby of prep, scans, and quick jaunts over to Spain.
I’m now using my leave I have to get in to de clutter the house. Trying to also see that as prep for baby. X
Ha! Yes that’s exactly it, a very expensive hobby. This time next year you’ll be worrying about losing baby weight & in sixteen years you’ll be sitting in a car outside a nightclub worrying about teenage drinking. It will happen x
Your remarkable journey has been a show of strength to me. Your ability to see throughout IVF cycles and doing all you can to enable the embryo transfer to succeed. Absolutely nothing more your body can do. Each embryo has to fight on its own to divide cells, grow and stick. Given all tests and treatment you have, it still depends on embryo do work hard that's out of your control.
Obviously I don't have positive story of my own, and fate of today can easily be not my time yet, and face another round with more tests. Like you, probably need time for body to heal, spend quality time with my dog, and regain my inner spirit to hope and try again.
Watching Tim Childs give his Instagram talk, it said it's hard but tends to be numbers games with all it's emotional physical toll. Put yourself first these coming days and don't inform family until your up for it. (I took personal decision to tell no one so I don't have to face tell them its BFN).
I have read countless stories about women going through loads of cycles to eventually getting their bfp. Bridget Nielson is one who went all the way to 54 years old before she got what she so dearly wanted. It is down to personal will in what you need for you.
I'm rooting for you, and wish you peaceful healing in the coming days. When your ready get on phone to the clinic to get their assessment.
Oh Thankyou 🙈 I’m just trying my damndest to get this so very long waited for baby. I found some bits I bought many moons ago when I used to go up town after school and scour charity shops for baby clothes!! 🙈
I’m sorry you’re going through this too. I’m disappointed my consultation isn’t till 22nd meaning I’ll miss trying again with this bleed, but maybe it will do me good to have a break. It could also mean next transfer could be 15th April, think would have been my dads birthday.
I’ve not watched him but I might hint it a look. My sister has spoken to my mum. I have a group of friends I share with, and it’s a bit more obvious as I go off to Spain, but I am going to try and tell as few people as I can next time.
Someone else mentioned Bridget Neilson. I really hope I don’t get that far though. 2 more frosties to give a chance before next cycle x
I've been struggling for two days trying to recover. I've put post on this forum trying to get some advice as well. Hard to get support on what's right. I hope things get better for you, in way hope things get better for me as well. I tired of being on a losing streak.
sorry to hear this Doodlebug23. I hope one of those remaining embryos is your golden egg.
Take time to recover and decide on your next steps. Your fertility family is 💯 % behind you and hoping very much for your success x
I’m so sorry lovely. Please don’t give up, especially if they can’t find anything wrong. Are there any more tests they can do?
I just want to say thank you for your support over the past two weeks with all of us transferring at a similar time. Your positivity and just lovely comments when people were struggling was very much needed and what this forum is all about so I thank you wholeheartedly and wish you all the luck in the world next time. Please take care of yourself and allow yourself some time to heal ❤️ xxx
I won’t give up. 2 frosties left this cycle. My clinic don’t seem to advocate EMMA ALICE ERA. I’m on a package too so any extras I’d have to pay for unless it’s the clinic’s decision.
Oh you are so very welcome. I just hope I can offer some positivity and advice to anyone going through this crappy journey. You really can’t understand fully unless you have been or are going through it, x
So sorry transfer hasn’t worked this time. It’s a tough place to be but from everything you post, it’s clear you are a strong strong person and will get through it so hold on to that.
I don’t have a positive story, I’m still waiting for my rainbow and just had a negative test yesterday so feeling the same so instead I’ll just send lots of love and best wishes, remember you are not alone…xxx
I’m doing my best to try and stay positive. Not really been in my nature lately but I’m trying to change that. I’m trying to remember that it ain’t over till the fat lady sings right?! Which is me after all these meds!
Oh I’m so sorry you are right where I am. Take care of yourself. Do you have frosties to try again? X
Well you might not think you are positive but you give out a great energy and share that with others which is super kind and helpful to me and others. It’s a Godsend that we can all share and lift eachother up in this community.
Sadly we don’t have any frosties, we’ve now used up The only four that were frozen by the Cypriot clinic. We are actually going to try IB in Spain now as we need somewhere where they might have the expertise to try something new. We’ve just got to scrape the money together from out of thin air now, not sure how but hopefully we’ll find a way!!
I’ve just come from my trauma counselling session and feeling grateful for having that outlet.
Wishing you have a peaceful weekend as can be and be kind to yourself 😊xxx
Thankyou that’s so nice to hear! I’m probably better at being positive for others than I am for myself. This form is an absolute his send and I am so grateful for everyone on here 💖
I cannot recommend IB enough. They are just fantastic. I’m on a refund programme which whilst expensive saves a lot of the worry of paying for treatments. And the refund (that I WILL NOT be having) is great. My Dr told me he cannot remember the last time they refunded somebody.
I’m taking this weekend to wallow then putting my big girl pants back on and looking forward to my next consultation x
Good for you, your strength and determination will see you through andI love that you ‘will not be getting that refund!!’ 💪🏻 you will get there, we are all amazing for what we’ve endured. xxx
I’ve just had some dates through for a consultation in Madrid, do you know if you can choose what location you actually have treatment in after you have The consultation in Madrid or if. You are then tied to Madrid? .
I chose Alicante from the start so I’m not sure. I can’t see why you shouldn’t be able to choose your clinic. The initial consult should just be to get the go ahead. I had all the tests done at the same point to as I had already decided I was set on IB Alicante.
I’ve already been taking a probiotic and also a vaginal one this time. Going to carry on with them though as I only started them a month better transfer.
I'm so sorry to hear this. It's such a journey, the highs and the lows! I'm heading for my 7th DE transfer in March after a long journey. You are not alone, we are all in this together ❤️ xx
So sorry to hear that. It's so hard. I had 5 BFN and a MMC before getting pregnant on ET number 7, embryos 8 and 9. One of them is currently sleeping in my arms. Be strong, your baby is coming!!! Xxx
No, only one of them implanted. We would have loved twins, but it wasn't meant to be and we are over the moon with our baby girl. All the best for lucky 7 transfer!!! Xxx
I hope this doesn’t sound insensitive but that really does give me hope, and help with the decision to carry on with double transfers. What grade embryo was she? I have had AA and ABs transferred so far, but now have an AB and a BB left I think. I’ve seen girls are often slower and therefore given a lower grade. My BB was my one 6 day blast that was frozen, the rest all AA and AB. X
Both embryos were 4AB and both day 6s. The last 2 we had left and our last chance . We had previously decided that would be the last attempt, so we were sooo happy when we found out it had worked. To me day 6 blastocysts are little fighters 💪💪💪💪🥰🥰🥰🥰
Hey Doodlebug23 really sorry to hear this, your time will come and your positive energy is so wonderful on this group. I don't have a positive story yet, have had a few transfers and fresh rounds but no live birth as yet- I really hope that we all get our much wanted babies in the very near future x x
Hi Doodlebug, Sorry I can't give you a positive story yet either, currently in TWW 5th FET and it's looking like a BFN for me too. I'm sending lots of love and thoughts your way. Reading the replies from the lovely ladies on here as been very uplifting for me, I hope it has for you too. Take good care and don't lose hope. With you! xx
So sorry to read this Doodlebug23. It’s such an exhausting, heart breaking journey isn’t it? Lows like this make you question everything but inevitably we pick ourselves up and plan our next step hoping that one day it’s our turn x
Not the post I wanted to read 🫤 I’m so sorry doodles - I had everything crossed for you. How you doing? I know it’s probably just a numbers thing, but has your clinic suggested any extra tests? X and it was transfer 7 (embryo 9) that worked (so far) for me. All good blasts. Xxxx
Thankyou. I’m ok. No choice really have we! I’ve got my next consultation on 22nd so will see what they say. Though they gave me steroids this time so not sure what else there is. The only thing I haven’t had is intralipids I think. You are the 4th or 5th I think that have said number 7 worked! My transfer 7 will be embryos 9&10. Xx
I’ve heard positive things about intralipids so fingers crossed they do the trick. Also, if taking steroids is necessary for you for implantation then it’s like starting again with the 1/3 chance. Mine worked on the 4th transfer after nk cells testing. Xxx
I haven’t had testing, my clinic just added in steroids anyway. I guess why test if you can just have the drugs anyway? They haven’t mentioned intralipids but that’s the only thing I’ve seen on here I haven’t had! Apart from lubion, but my progesterone levels are always “optimal” with just pessaries. X
Doodlebug we had multiple transfers that didn’t work with good quality eggs and one chemical. The last couple of transfers there were no changes to the meds as everything went “right” except for the fact I failed to get pregnant. It did eventually work but no changes that indicated why it would - the egg wasn’t even as good as other eggs we had transferred even though it was still classed as a good embryo.
Sounds exactly like my story! I have 2 frosties left, one of which is a 6 day BB. The lowest graded out off all I’ve had. Maybe that is the one that’s just waiting for me too 💖
Sending lots of love Doodlebug23 , we are all in this together. We’ve got your back, and hope you manage to get that strength back, to help you along your way. It always seems impossible until it’s done, and I have hope for you ahead! Xxx
Have to admit I’m struggling with ever believing it will ever work at the moment. Stories of 7th transfer successes (which will be my next) give me a little fuzzy feeling and I think yes 🙌🏼 it will be my one. Then comes a great big crash and slight panic washing over me again 😔😔
I’m letting myself have this weekend to eat crap, drink, vape, cry, wallow. Then Monday I’m going to force positivity and happiness!! Maybe forcing it will then turn into reality??! X
Definitely have a weekend off and then focus on the next treatment cycle. You can’t be strict all the time and you need a release when failed transfers happen xx
I’m with you, so many ups and downs. I’m on my way to an acupuncture appointment right now, and can’t help but just feel I’m throwing money down the drain. Like you say, let yourself feel crap, look after yourself this weekend, do everything and anything you want to do , the positivity will come back. And will likely come in waves. Also try and fill your day with helpful distractions (I’m finding reading, walking and staying off social media and staying away from pregnant friends helpful at the moment). I’m rooting for you and sending you strength xx
Doesn’t it just! I had 2 reflexology sessions this transfer which were lovely but £70 I could have spent on meds and scans. So difficult to balance spend v what could help. I’ve been lucky that my friend has gifted me a voucher for reflexology that I have extended to include reiki so I’m looking forward to that at the end Feb. Then I’ll do another reflexology before transfer, a free accupuncture at the clinic the day of transfer, and then another reflexology after transfer again.
I’m on a mission decluttering the house so I’m going to focus on that. I also just bought a walking pad, so determined to get my 10k steps in too.
I’m going to bounce that strength right back at you too!!!! X
Yes there are!! I just need to drag myself out of this hole and focus on them. 7th transfer successes and lower grade/day 6 embryos fighting there way to make it are the things that I’ve decided WILL be my focus. Once I’ve managed to find some positivity again 💪🏻 💖
”The sun does not forget a village just because it is small”- African proverb. Whatever little bit of hope you have within you at the moment, hold on to it. We have to acknowledge all parts of this journey even the darker parts. On our journey, the goal is the BFP. However, every little step we take on this journey is a small success. To face infertility, is success. To get up in the morning and be kind when the world is not kind to us is success. These are the small bits of sunshine we need to hold on to when our village feels small and dark. On this forum, we are the sunshine to each other and our village is mighty 💪🏾 xx
So sorry to hear this. It's very difficult and heartbreaking. Especially using DE it must be so frustrating. I've been right there, but I got success with embryo 11 + 12. All 10 before failed or chemical. They were all mine, but all made in my 20s so basically good as DE statistically, so I felt the odds were against me somehow. But there is always hope. Praying your happy ending is right around the corner! 💕xx
I'm so sorry to hear this Doodlebug 💔 please take care of yourself, you will get through this 💪 I think you know my story, 7 failed transfers, 3 euploids and 6 untested all created while I was 29 and 30. I have read so many stories of successes after many transfers and our consultant has said she has seen people have success on their 11th, 12th,17th transfers with no explanation for why they didn't work before. The two RIF specialists we saw also said it is a numbers game and if you keep transferring (good quality/euploid) embryos then it will eventually work.
For me I've been getting crippling ovulation pains for every month since doing IVF and worse after each egg collection so I knew I only had one collection left in me. Our amazing friend has offered to be a surrogate for us so we are pursuing this route as our consultant says it increases our chance of success back to 65% per embryo transferred, although I appreciate this is not an option for everyone for different reasons.
Jeez, I can’t imagine getting to 17 transfers 🥹 I suppose it’s good to hear that 2 specialists have said it’s numbers game, but I just wish the research would catch up with the reasons why it fails 😔
Can I ask, how does the success rate increase by using a surrogate? X
I know, I already feel broken after 7! I don't know how people do it! I think people with a history of RIF (>=3 euploid embryos or more if untested depending on age of egg provider) have a reduced implantation rate with subsequent transfers as it suggests there's a problem with implantation. So for us with great quality euploid embryos it should have been a 65% implantation rate but with history of RIF it reduced to around 10-15%, whereas if the embryos were to be put into a surrogates womb who has no history of RIF then statistically it should go back to 65% if that makes sense? X
Our consultant said all of their RIF patients who went on to surrogacy had success. But of course not all were able or wanted to, and she has seen several cases where when they kept going they eventually had success themselves xx
I am so sorry to read this. I don't know if you need stories of hope but I had 7 transfers (including DE), 6 miscarriages (some natural) and I finally gave birth to my daughter after a very high risk pregnancy and she is now 10 months old.
About 2 years ago I decided I was going to be that person that didn't get their happy ending. I drank wine the night of my final transfer I was so convinced it was pointless even doing it. I was soo pessimistic. I had counselling to prepare myself to live a childless life.
Oh and I was 46 when I gave birth.
I am on here under a new username but feel free to message me if I can help at all xx
Yes yes yes! Thankyou. Congratulations too. I’m now your wanna be lol! I’ll probably be high risk due to my age and BP but I guess that just means closer monitoring and more scans, which I’ll take as a bonus. X
Hi Doodlebug , I am so sorry you are going through this journey of trials and tribulations. It seems hard to think there is no reason for things not working out . Maybe your consultation might throw more light on the situation.
I'm so sorry to hear.. IVF is so incredibly hard and cruel. I wish I could have a success story to share but I can relate as I've had one failed IVF with my own eggs and then 4 failed IVF transfers with donor eggs. The docs make it seem that donor eggs are the answer but I'm here with you still trying to figure out why I've only had negative results and one chemical pregnancy. I'm getting ready for my last and fifth transfer in one week but this last blast is a 6 day untested 3 BA with 50% chance of working if euploid so don't know if this will work . Ive been told IVF is a numbers game and read some stories of women with multiple IVF failures who then had success and give me hope. Sending you hugs and positive thoughts your way. I hope you can take some time to yourself, take a much needed break, and do things to help you feel better.
I was convinced that using DE would be my answer and yet still here I am working towards transfer number 7. My Dr says it’s a numbers game too. Which o understand but it’s so hard thinking well when will it be my number! Sending positive thoughts and baby dust back your way.
I’m so sorry, you’ve been through so much. Often there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why this process works sometimes and not others. It is excruciating, I’m sorry. You’re not alone, this community is right there with you and I hope some ladies have some uplifting stories xx
I know I’m not alone in going through this, and this forum is invaluable to me whether it’s advice or just to chat to others who know exactly how it feels 😊 x
I’ve got no positive story yet! However, have had 7 egg collections and 6 transfers and unfortunately 2MCs so I feel your pain. Still on the road though, and determined that we’ll get there somehow. Wishing you love, hope and strength xx
I’m lucky in some ways as I’m using DE so no egg collections. I did experience it several years ago so I can empathise. Both now on to transfer number 7. Sending luck and baby dust your way x
I’m so sorry for what you are going through! I’m on my third transfer at the moment after 1 failed and 1 miscarriage. What investigations have you done? My doctor gave me prednisone this time around in case I have strong NK cells. Also wasted a lot money on thrombophilia blood test which led to nowhere.
I haven’t had any additional tests except for a uterine contractions scan. My clinic doesn’t advocate EMMA/ALICE/ERA. They gave me prednisolone and clexane extra last time. Plus HCG wash and embryo glue. This time will be the same but trying modified natural rather than medicated.
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