I’m so sorry to hear your struggles and hope that you will not loose hope. The journey is so difficult in different ways for each of us, and I can only pray it gets easier for you. ❤️
Im so sorry to hear this Mimisami! Its heartbreaking that you cant catch a break. My thought are if you are bleeding early, are you getting enough progesterone? Have you have any progesterone tests prior to transfer to check your levels? Sending love and hugs.xx
Thats what i was thinking. Rang the clinic and they said continue as normal which is 2 x cyclogest. I added an extra one for last 3 days but it didnt stop the bleed. Xx
I think once your levels are low and you start bleeding it's very hard to get them up with pessaries. 2 cyclogest wasnt enough for me. My NHS clinic said it wasnt possible that I wasnt getting enough progesterone but I wasnt when I checked my bloods after our spontaneous miscarriage. Definitley something to concentrate on. Progesterone is so important for implantation and sustaining a pregnancy.xx
I’m so sorry to hear this Mimisami, sending you big hugs. Like Cinderella says probably worth speaking to your clinic and asking if you can increase the amount of progesterone you’re taking and getting a progesterone blood test too. Sending love and big hugs too. Xx
Oh Mimisami, I’m so so sorry to hear this. You’ve been through so much, this journey is just so unfair. I’ll second what Cinderella said, have you had your progesterone checked? I could be wrong but the progesterone should usually prevent you from a bleed until you come off the meds. I had mine checked for my second transfer and wasn’t absorbing the pessaries well so added injections in too. Sending so many hugs to you. Inbox is always open xxx ❤️
Oh gosh no, I am so sorry Mimisami, this is heartbreaking, after what you have been through already, you truly dont deserve this. I really hoped this was the one for you. I will keep everything crossed for your remaining embryo, but for now take some time for you, and be kind to yourself. Thinking of you xx
Oh Mimi i am so so sorry to hear. This is so gutting and unfair and had really hoped this was the one for you. Also echo what Cinders said re progesterone when you’re ready to get back into it. Sending hugs xxxx
Good luck for when you do discuss in your follow up. Also I wanted to thank you for your posts on your thyroid - I have hypothyroidism and from seeing your messages I’ve requested my clinic to test my thyroid at the start of my cycle and then again closer to my transfer so I will have peace of mind.
Really sorry to read this, I totally understand as I have had 2 now with my ivf attempts. We still have a lower grade in the freezers and im just not buying the whole it’s just bad luck so we are looking into immune testing before going again. I’m 39 and time is against us now. Take some time to look after yourself and get the strength to go away...xxx
I asked for a immune protocol but its just a nurse telling me you have been diagnosed with an autoimmune thyroid condition by your endo so he should prescribe it. Endo said no there isnt enough studies to back this and only thyroid meds should do the trick. Keep in touch lovely would love to see if it made a difference xxx
Im so sorry to hear that hun x it must be do hard on the heart right now and I pray that some ease will reach you. Its hard to hold on when all that happens is the opposite you pray for but know whatever is best for you will come your way, tailor made just for you, you will rise again and the strength will come x sending love prayers and hugs xxx
Oh lovely, my heart breaks for you. I'm so sorry. I've been through two chemicals with my last two transfers so know how deliberating it can be. Massive virtual hugs. Xx
I’m so sorry you have to experience this awful pain... I had a chemical with my first FET and I know how you are feeling.... Hopefully soon your rainbow baby will be in your arms. ❤️🙏🏼
So sorry for you. I had a very similar experience to you with a mmc, so my heart goes out to you reading this post. You may feel right now like you've had enough, but you are stronger than you know, so give yourself time and lots of love. Xx
Just wondering if you've looked into getting your nk cells tested? Whenever I see someone who's had loads of chemicals /early miscarriages, I think of myself-- I had nearly 3 years of early losses, never got past a faint line. 35 is not too old yet, don't worry, you've got time to find answers, and I really hope you do. Keep strong, I know it can feel like a punch in the guts every time this happens, but like you said, your time will come, thinking of you xx
Hey Zebedee. Hope you are doing well. Havent tested yet but since i have thyroid antibodies it might be the case i have nk too. I was hoping for autoimmune protocol but clinic refused. Xx
The first thing that flagged up with me was my thyroid... I was 'sub-clinical' at 4.63, so they put me on levothyroxine to bring me down to 2.00... Would be interesting to know if you're a hypothyroid too??
Yep i am! Thats the only thing explained in my unexplained infertility!
Initially gp fooled me around for a good year. Then clinic put me on meds and still was fluctuating between 1 and 5 on 75mg
Then paid private endo who did full investigation and diagnosed tpo antibodies. Changed my dosage to 100mg. For three monts my ths is under 1 and i feel better. I trying to optimize my folate b12 iron and vit d.
The same endo refused to prescribe me prednisolone as he doesnt believe my autoimmune thyroiditis (hashimotos) has a connection with successful pregnancy!
I'd get a second opinion. Any immune issue needs treatment to maintain a successful pregnancy. I had no natural pregnancy for 2 years (3 failed rounds of ivf) and then I started treatment for immunology issues and I've been pregnant twice in two months. The current one is sticking and I had my 6 week scan yesterday. Do book to see a miscarriage specialist who can get you on the right drugs for you. I'm at a clinic in Epsom but the doctor I use is world famous and has a harley Street clinic too. I'd also be interested to know what your amh is? Mine is 16.5 and I always get told that's really good for my age- I'm 38, 39 next month-- and always get 15 eggs+ with ivf, so never understood why they would always end up in chemicals. If your amh is pretty decent, there's no reason why you should be having chemicals every time. Ivf doctors will say '90% of the time it's chromosomal' - maybe, but if your body is fighting the pregnancy, then that will always be 100% failure rate. I really would look into seeing a miscarriage specialist who specialises in immunology. Good luck xx
Good Lord what a turn! This is so hopefull to read! I hope the little bean stay put. So happy for you! Im in the north west so will need to look for someone that specialises in this. Its a shame that all this big shot clinics dont offer these services
My amh was tested a 1.5 year ago i think it was around 18 or 19 for a 34 year old not too bad or too good. I always managed around 9 mature eggs so maybe that isnt the reason like u said! So so happy for you xxx
I think the thing to remember is a lot of ivf doctors are quite cynical about the immunology side-- they'll just keep spinning the '90% of the time it's chromosomal' line. I've seen some doctors try not to roll their eyes when I've told them 'it feels like my body just doesn't want to be pregnant'. I just always had a feeling my body was rejecting the embryos somehow. If you have immune issues, your body will probably react differently towards an embryo than someone who is otherwise OK health wise .
18 or 19 is a good number. You should be able to get pregnant with those numbers, you have plenty of time too. Like I said, I'm 39 nearly and my amh isn't far off yours.
This time 4 or 5 months ago, I thought there was no hope for me. My last ivf round, I couldn't even transfer my two embryos because they were 'abnormal' - convinced myself all my eggs were bad. OK, the little bean might not make it (it's so early and I've learnt not to be optimistic or show any level of excitement) but the point is, I've gotten this far for the first time ever, and I never thought I would. I'm on predisolone, intralipids, hydroxychloroquine- the lot!
My specialist is an actual angel. And the funny thing is, when I met him, he was the first doctor I believed who said 'I'll get you a baby'. I hope you can find a specialist near you who can help you out on your way to a successful pregnancy. You'll be fine, keep believing 🤗
Thank you so much. I really appreciated this. I needed this in these days. I am praying from my heart that the lil bean sticks. Its mommy is a true warrior. You gave me alot of hope and praying that if i cant, the universe will pay you back lovely ❤️
Hi my love. Sorry to hear this; it's so unfair. I felt I had lost all self-confidence from this awful journey. You're still strong and successful, and the hope and positivity will come back, but you don't need to be positive right now. Let yourself be upset about this, but also get on to your clinic to help you through. I am holding space in my heart for hope and positivity for you. xxxx
I'm so sorry to read this. You don't deserve this. Like Zebedee said, the NK cells could be it. I'd ask for the immune tests before the next transfer and they can fix it.
Just now take plenty time out. I have faith too and I am sure you will get there. Sending a big hug. XX
Oh my beautiful girls I am truly sorry for your loss and believe me I mean it. I know what you fell as my loss is also still fresh. Today I received a lovely email from my clinic trying to encourage me. I was at work when reading it but I couldn't keep my tears... I cannot wait for a follow up with my doctor. Next week they will let me know what will be the next steps. We have to focus now on how to stay pregnant because our embryos are implanting. You are in a similar situation as far as I can see. I am curious what advice your clinic will give you. Let's keep in touch.
I am sending you lots of love and a big hug. Be strong my little girl ❤️🤗 don't lose your hopes. Alocate some time for yourself xxx, gather some strength and carry on ... We will succeed 💪💝
You have been such an inspiration with your strenght and i know it takes alot to grt back on your feet. So glad your clinic is supportive and on top of it. We will rise again ❤️
I’m so sorry for what you are going through again. It’s just so unfair! Please hold onto hope, sometimes it’s all we have. Sending love and light your way during this tough time.
Hi mimisami, in so sorry to read this. It's such a tough journey which is a rollercoaster on our emotions. I know today, it might be feel difficult to see hope but atm the pain is very raw for you. Take some time out and when your ready then look into the suggestions advised by the ivf warriors sisters above and once you start looking into them you will build that hope once again. Sending you love and a virtual hug xx
So so sorry to hear this! You will get past the extreme sadness you feel right now... you are stronger than you know ! I went through this recently and it was just heartbreaking but we pulled through..
planning for fet now and its something to focus on for the new year.
Hope you make some time for yourself, try to do something you enjoy and give yourself time to grieve x
Lots of love
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Thank you sk. Im getting there. Its good to have something to focus on. How exiting to have a fet next. Hope we all can have a proper xmas break from all of this and start a fresh x x thank u for your lovely message
Oh nooo Mimisami 💔I’m just seeing this. I’m really so sorry. It really sucks to go through such cruelty. I don’t know what to say but I really hope you can be consoled . Lots of virtual hugs from me to you❤️
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Failed Fresh transfer /chemical pregnancy 
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Finally confirmed 2nd transfer was chemical
