Needle in cervix

[DanniJones]

Enlighten me on how painful? Bearing in mind I'm terrified of needles and the swab on the old cervix previously has been very uncomfortable.. 💋🤷🏼‍♀️

[Hidden]

No worse than a smear - only because they put that contraption thing in place to allow them access. The "needle" part is then nothing more than an interesting watch on the screen. Xx

[DanniJones in reply to Hidden]

Haha brilliant 😁 What happens in the process? Annoyingly they haven't said anything about it xx

[Hidden in reply to DanniJones]

The "needle" I would assume is referring to the wobbly long thin tube thing that they transport the fertilised egg into position with? Does that make sense for what you have been told?

[Hidden in reply to DanniJones]

What part of the process would you like to know? First of all your normal monthly cycle is shut down in some way to allow control over what happens when. Then you take drugs to make as many follicles as possible grow over a period of time (depending on long or short protocol). During this time you will have scans (internal dildo scans) to check on the progress of follicles i.e. numbers, size, how well they are growing. They also check on your womb lining development.

Once they are happy that you have reached a certain size of follicle growth they will schedule you in for collection. About 36 hours before collection you will take the trigger shot. Which is the message to your follicles to release the eggs.

On the day of egg collection you will be in the hospital for the full morning and you need yourself and your partner. Sperm will also be taken that day (and you need someone to give you a lift home).

You may have some period like discomfort following egg collection. Some people have gone, others have it bad. You may also get some discharge.

That day they will tell you how many eggs have been collected although you should have a good idea of how many to expect from the follicle count.

The next day they will tell you how many have fertilised.

Then you watch and wait until usually 5 days after egg collection when you go into the hospital again for a much less intrusive and slightly weirdly very short (couple of minutes) where they put the fertilised egg back where it belongs to snuggle down.

After that, depending on the clinic and various other timing factors above, you will be asked to pee on a stick or get a blood test anywhere between 9 and 16 days later.

Oh, and at some point during the process you will start the pessaries. Which can irritate your cervix and cause red discharge which puts everyone into a panic - thankfully it mostly is simply down to cervix irritation from the pessaries.

On your otd (official test date) hopefully you can pop a picture on here of a lovely positive result.

In between times ask any questions you like. We are all here for each other.

Good luck - oh, and don't forget to relax 🤣

Xxx

[DanniJones in reply to Hidden]

Another unnecessary procedure which I just cancelled. It's something to do with killing cells that make someone have recurrent failed IVFs and recurrent miscarriages. None of which I have had 🤷🏼‍♀️Xxx

[Hidden in reply to DanniJones]

I have definitely heard of NK testing. I considered it but then read an article that said that nk fluctuates and it is definitely not fully approved as yet. Agree that someone who has had recurrent issues may consider it.

Hope all goes well with the ivf xxx

P.s. glad you asked about the needle!! Xxx

[Cinderella5]

Im not sure what you mean by a needle? There isnt a part of treatment that you need a needle in the cervix.xx

[DanniJones in reply to Cinderella5]

You're joking? I'll upload what he sent to me. If you've read my process you'll find that I'm feeling a bit like a client in a business. I've spent thousands and haven't started the process yet....xx

[Cinderella5 in reply to DanniJones]

Ahhh Ok, Im with you now! This isnt a routine part of treatment, its an added extra for NK cell (Natural Killer) testing. I havent personally had this biopsy awake as I had biopsies under GA when I had hysteroscopy but maybe adjust your post heading to ask what sore the needle is for NK cell biospy is like?!xx

[Hidden in reply to Cinderella5]

Ohhh, got you now... x

[Cinderella5 in reply to DanniJones]

Oh yes, actually as this isnt routinely part of treatment I would ask if its necessary as it is an extra cost on top! This is usually only done if there have been repeated failures. I guess it depend if you are happy to put all this out up front not knowing if you need it.xx

[Hidden]

Is that the right part? That is discussing the nk test?

[Hidden]

No experience re this procedure but are you sure you need it? Have you had any cycles of IVF or miscarriages as often this is a test that is done a bit later after cycle failures as the evidence for NK cells is still not conclusive.

If you are self funding I would ask what they are looking for in the result and how it would change treatment and why they are not suggesting IVF trial first.

Good luck

[Niki_B in reply to Hidden]

Yes I was wondering the same thing I thought this is only done after multiple failed ivfs or miscarriages? Just be careful as I think sometimes these clinics like to spend your money on certain procedures that aren't necessary or proven.

Xx

[DanniJones in reply to Niki_B]

Thanks ladies! I'm going to ring them up now! I had an unnecessary keyhole procedure done when it wasn't needed and that hit home with a whopping few thousand!! Will update on what they say!xx

[Hidden in reply to DanniJones]

hfea.gov.uk/treatments/expl...

This tells you about add-ons. It’s a lot of money to pay when you may not need them.

When I have spoken to a private clinic prior to my NHS cycle, the consultant even suggested that sometimes having a failed cycle can help them work out where the most help is needed. Eg not all couples will need ICSI, steroids, genetic testing.

Good luck x

[Cinderella5 in reply to DanniJones]

Hi Danni, here is a link to the HFEA add ons and their advice....this one comes under immunology tests.

hfea.gov.uk/treatments/expl...

[Niki_B in reply to DanniJones]

Oh wow geez yes you should just be starting IVF now, not all these unnecessary tests first! These are usually done after multiple failures. Yes good girl I'd be asking them some serious questions! xxx

[Niki_B in reply to Niki_B]

Wow and your only 23!! I just read your bio. Definately strange them asking you to do all this xx

[DanniJones in reply to Niki_B]

Absolutely! Cancelled with his secretary who sounded very very condescending and said she's not sure why Akande would give a procedure that's unnecessary so I said look, I'm not sure if this is his way of making money out of me but I had one unnecessary procedure last week and now another and I haven't even started the process or discussed anything about IVF!!

[Cinderella5 in reply to DanniJones]

If you need anything else then please dont hesitate to shout, its horrible thinking that some clinics may take the P. Glad you have it cancelled, hopefully you can get on and start actual treatment sooner than later!xx

[DanniJones in reply to Cinderella5]

🤔me too.. hubby just feels like an ATM at the moment and no one other than me can make him feel like that! 😂 Joke... lol xx

[Cinderella5 in reply to DanniJones]

Ha ha ha oh well we may have saved him some money this time then!xx

[Niki_B in reply to Cinderella5]

Omg hun what the heck!!! Almost 2 unnecessary procedures omg!!! You should just be starting IVF like now especially if your going private!! Hmm maybe look at other clinics If they are doing this to you! Unreal. I'm so glad you posted on here first! Yikes xxx

[DanniJones in reply to Niki_B]

Yeah just spoke to the hubby and he thinks that just because he doesn't attend the meetings with me, Akande is exploiting his position with me to make money. Think I may be reporting him to the HFEA 🤔 Xxx

[Niki_B in reply to DanniJones]

Hate to say it hun but it sounds like it! Your 23 your eggs are probably golden right now lol you should just be jumpin in and getting on the injection/hormone train asap!! Don't let them sucker you in bloody arseholes sounds like your onto it tho! 😉😘