2 blighted ovums in a row :(

[Sherry07]

I just found out a couple of days ago (at 7 weeks,), that I have another blighted ovum. I had a miscarriage at 9 weeks this past May due to the same condition. I have to wait about 10 days to do one more ultrasound to confirm that this is in fact a blighted ovum and not just a wrong date, but, I do know I'm right on the date.

Has this happened to any of you ladies before? I`ve heard it rarely happens more than once to any one; am I very unlucky?

Can you help me to find out what sort of tests I can ask the hospital to perform on the tissues I may have left from this miscarriage in near future? I think having empty sac twice in a row might have to do sth with the genetics of the embryo.

And also how can I ask/convince my fertility clinic to refer me to a recurrent miscarriage clinic?

Thank you x

[Hidden]

I couldn’t read and run.

I’m so sorry for both of your losses you’ve suffered- I had an early miscarriage last July. I also had to wait a week and a half for a scan💔 awful isn’t it.

I don’t know much about miscarriage tests -hopefully other ladies here will be able to advise you.

Have you had a laparoscopy and hysteroscopy done? The reason I ask is maybe there is something structural causing it. Laparoscopy can diagnose/ treat endometriosis and hysteroscopy can give a better view of your uterus and look for/ treat any structural issues such as polyps.

I am having surgery tomorrow- I’m having a laparoscopy & hysteroscopy and biopsy and removal of endometriosis if found- last year I had endometriosis treated. Unfortunately since my miscarriage I have had some difficulties- which might be endometriosis.

My fertility doctor has also prescribed progesterone pessaries and prednisone ( low dose steroid- I have raised nk cells) to take the first three months of pregnancy.

And have you had your thyroid looked at? If you’re ttc or early pregnancy your tsh shouldn’t be higher than 2- mine is so I’m going to discuss this further with my fertility doctor.

I do hope you can get some answers and this brings you a happier outcome xoxo

[Sherry07 in reply to Hidden]

Hi Jess, many thanks for your reply and I hope everything goes fine with your surgery today x I`m also very sorry about your early miscarriage; the waiting part is the worst of all

I have never done a laparoscopy and was actually thinking about it; will ask my fertility clinic next time I have appointment with them which is late in April, I think. I did ask both my GP and the fertility clinic for some progesterone pessaries; the GP believed it`s not her job to do so and the fertility clinic said as it was a natural pregnancy it had nothing to do with them

With regards to thyroid I am hypo and currently taking levothyroxine, but I`m not sure if they check my T3, T4 and TSH every time I give a blood test. I`ve heard all these factors are very important during pregnancy.

Please do update us on the outcome of your surgery today; sending love and hugs x

[Hidden in reply to Sherry07]

GPs definitely cannot prescribe progesterone pessaries without a recommendation from a gynaecologist.

My pregnancy was natura ( I fell after my endo was treated) and my fertility doctor agreed to give me progesterone pessaries - his assistant poo pooed it saying it wouldn’t make a difference but my fertility doctor had the final say and reviews it case by case he thought it might help. I don’t know if it’s coz I have endo? The way I see it is it can’t do any harm so why not!

Endo is always good to rule out/treat it can only show during a laparoscopy- mine never showed up on a scan. They can also do a hysteroscopy at the same time as you laparoscopy so they can look at your uterus in more detail than a scan.

Surgery was a mixed bag- trying to get my head around it. Sure enough the endometriosis had returned in the same location- she removed some from my back of my uterus and left some on my rectum lovely- because of where it is and the bowel symptoms she is referring me to a bowel specialist. Kinda of gutted they didn’t have a bowel apecialist to be on stand by at my surgery- they knew it was there before and they were aware of my severe symptoms from my bowels. Means more waitimg 🙄 but hubby and my mum wants me to put my health first and get this sorted then try again. I also know it was left last time and it re grew again in both spots and this time more endo 🙄 I know if I leave it it could re trigger growth affecting fertility and bowels. She found some endo spots in my uterus which worries me- thinks they were there last time but as I had a dye put through my tubes they didn’t show it can’t be removed 😳 so I’m given the choice - try straight away for a pregnancy, Ghnr and then try again. Pregnancy or a menopause state should stop growth. It isn’t curable and it will continue to come back 🙄 Luckily I’m booked in to our fertility doctor this Thursday and hopefully he’ll help me make sense of it.!! I’m seeing the surgeon again 6/8 weeks. xoxo

[Sherry07 in reply to Hidden]

Hi Jess, just checked your page to update myself; I`m sorry about the issues happened after your laparoscopy I don`t have any experience there, so unfortunately cannot be of any help I had a natural miscarriage last week with severe pain and cramps. Have been off work since! Hope you are feeling better today xx

[Hidden in reply to Sherry07]

I’m so sorry for what you’ve been through- my fertility specialist would run mc tests when there is 2 losses; he thinks it’s too cruel to make couples experience 3. Perhaps you should now be referred. It’s awful you’re going through this ; it’s physically, mentally and emotionally draining. It’s so cruel and unfair 💔

I’m so fed up my first laparoscopy was really easy and straight forward I thought this one would be. 😒I hoped I’d have some temporary relief from endometriosis no🤦🏼‍♀️ I’m lucky my fertility specialist is doing all he can. Nothing about this journey is ever simple; it’s 1 step forwards and 10 steps backwards 🤦🏼‍♀️ I was so positive after our appointment but I’m feeling a bit meh will have to try and put my positive pants on and keep going coz what choice is there 🤷🏼‍♀️xoxo

[Sherry07 in reply to Hidden]

Hey Jess, I’m back after my heart breaking miscarriage Hope you are fine; will go and check your page now to update myself xx

[Caroliono4]

Hi Sherry. Unfortunately I have had 3 blighted ovums and 1 miscarriage which didn't develop after seeing a heartbeat. Unfortunately the most likely reason for blighted ovum is a problem with the egg and as you have identified further testing if the embryo should clarify this. You didn't mention your age but after 40 you can self-refer or ask your Gp to refer you to the Recurrent Miscarriage Unit after 2 miscarriages. Otherwise unfortunately it is after 3. We then got offered karyotyping of the embryo tissue on our third miscarriage. However I would definitely push to try and get testing this time around.

I'm sorry you're going through this. Happy to answer any questions if you want to send a Pm x x

[Sherry07 in reply to Caroliono4]

Hi Caroliono, thanks a lot for your reply and I`m so sorry to hear about your losses. It is ever so heart breaking

To be honest I was thinking more about the quality of the embryo; but how can we find out about it when having a natural pregnancy. I had an IVF cycle done last November, which ended in BFN but 4 frozen embryos are left from that cycle. I have already asked the clinic to evaluate those embies, but they believed it was not needed and they also don`t have the facilities there anyway I`m 38 now, but have read on the net that people over 35 with 2 miscarriages can be referred to miscarriage clinic; don`t know how true that is! It will be really great if I can convince the hospital or my clinic to get the karyotyping test done this time! Fingers crossed for that! We both did the karyotyping test of our bloods just before Christmas holiday, but I guess that is different to when you test the embryo tissue.

Having looked at your profile I believe you`ve had your follow up appointment. Hopefully it had gone well Are you still thinking about using donor eggs? x

[Caroliono4 in reply to Sherry07]

Hi Sherry07. Yes your blood test would be to see if you or your partner had a gene translocation which could also cause the problems with the embryo. Its supposed to be quite rare but I know there are ladies on here who have experienced this. Thanks for asking, yes we had our follow-up on Wednesday. Dr confirmed that many of my follicles were empty (hadn't ovulated and weren't stuck in there, just empty) and couldn't give us a reason for the others being immature, just my age. So donor eggs looks like the best way for us now. X

[Sherry07 in reply to Caroliono4]

Thanks for the info xx My pregnancy ended last week with a natural miscarriage I have been thinking about the quality of my eggs lately. Donor eggs looks like a solution for us both xx

[Caroliono4 in reply to Sherry07]

I'm really sorry to hear that and hope you are taking it easy and being kind to yourself. Perhaps the clinic will be able to shed some light on whether it is an egg quality issue. We were hoping to have enough embryos to have PGS testing to try and get the best quality embryo but sadly only got one. Perhaps this might be an option? Xx

[Sherry07 in reply to Caroliono4]

Many thanks Caroliono, I saw a private gynecologist after my miscarriage and he also suggested doing PGS on my next potential IVF. However he said it would be very difficult to do it on my current day-5 frozen embryos xx

[Twobaby in reply to Caroliono4]

Sorry for ur losses caroliono...Can I know what wer ur symptoms as iam facing the same situation.i got negative blood at 7 weeks but doctor saw a gestational sac on my scan

[Tugsgirl]

Sorry to read this 😞 xx

[Sherry07 in reply to Tugsgirl]

Oh thank you x I still can`t believe this is happening to me for the second time And with the huge amount of bleeding I had during the natural miscarriage last time and then rushing to A&E in an ambulance ... I don`t know how on earth I`m going to go through that again

[Tugsgirl in reply to Sherry07]

I know 😞 it’s really unfair 😞 xx

[Sherry07 in reply to Tugsgirl]

Had a natural miscarriage last week. Why is life so cruel to us?!

[UndraaB]

Hi Sherry , i am going through the exact same miscarriages. I have had 3 miscarriages in a row. 1st one was missed miscarriage ( no heartbeat) and last two were blighted ovum ( no embryo in a sac) . I see on your profile that you have your rainbow baby after 2 nd try of femara. How using femara helps with blighted ovum problem ? Please let me know

[Sherry07 in reply to UndraaB]

Hi, I’m very sorry to read about your miscarriages. I know how it hearts! 🙁

To be honest I think taking Femara doesn’t help out with having a blighted ovum at least there’s no scientific proof. It was suggested to me by a gynecologist before going for FET procedure, so I tried it 2 times. First time it resulted in another blighted ovum and second time it ended in a success. Oh and she suggested my husband take some supplements as well. I can’t remember the name; but can check if you are interested in trying xxx

[Lozza-1398]

Hi, I have actually had two blighted ovums in a row, I've also read it doesn't usually happen so if your unlucky then so am I 🥺.I had mine 4 months apart from each other, I asked about testing but apparently can't get any testing done until I have a third miscarriage! I couldn't believe it, why should I have to go through that mental and psychical pain again.. I just want to know what's wrong!

It's actually now made me so scared to try again because I don't know if it's me or my partner or just generally a natural thing.

The tests you can take are meant to be to check any chromosomal abnormalities.

When I had my scan they said my ovaries and everything looked okay, so I'm curious as to why these things happen too.x