The Liver Friendly Diet

[nash2]

We see increasing questions about food. Here is a link to an infographic of how we view the lifestyle

drive.google.com/open?id=18...

[Jkf1]

Thank you for posting

[Millie09]

Thank you 😊 I'm still confused though as it says to still minimise the foods that are good.

[nash2 Partner in reply to Millie09]

I don't understand this comment. What food are you thinking about?

[Millie09 in reply to nash2]

Sorry Wayne, I'm on about the foods that show as ok to eat ,like chicken , unsaturated fats etc .. it says to minimalise them

[nash2 Partner in reply to Millie09]

Hi Millie

I didn't intend to say that.

Where do you see that? We believe in an appropriate amount of protein and don't believe that high protein diets are healthy but we don't want to minimize it.

[Millie09 in reply to nash2]

Hi Wayne, I think where protein in a diet is concerned ,depends on what stage cirrhosis a person has, I know this is a group for fatty liver disease but high protein can be very beneficial , red meats are one that should be minimalised ,salt should be avoided, I have been on low sodium for 13 yrs now .

Sorry if I have confused your information

[MW923 in reply to Millie09]

Agree

[MLB_77 in reply to Millie09]

For me the confusion is because of all the contradictions! I hate when I feel like I’m making good decisions on what I’m eating and then find out i was wrong!

Going back on my bloodwork I usually drop about 20 platelets a year., if this Trend continues I will be below normal by next blood work.

I ended up looking up things to help boost platelets And was shocked to see to avoid coffee and vitamin E. Whaaaa!!! Aren’t those things supposed to be good for liver… And isn’t low platelet count associated with liver disease??

Also, some thing I’ve never really paid attention to until this past month is saturated fat. I am a slim person so the things I looked at more we’re just sodium and sugar.

Turns out those handful of nuts I’m eating are quite high and saturated fats.

I was always so proud of myself when I would be consistent with my handfuls of nuts.

Those are just a couple examples. It really is all so confusing

[nash2 Partner in reply to MLB_77]

It is complex and there are so many ways that people look at the effects of different foods and on individual organs that you can find someone to support almost any point of view. Our approach is to think of the body as a whole with a focus on liver health and we try to have research to support our view. Here is a link to a discussion of our approach with link to all the research.

drive.google.com/file/d/1PB...

Wayne

[MW923 in reply to MLB_77]

Yes very confusing and you don't if it's good or not, you different things all the time, they to eat the good fats while walnuts are good for the liver. I'm frustrated. I been eatting walnuts and almonds. Err I just don't know anymore. All so scary.

[sarah430]

This is really helpful! I'm assuming eggs would fall under the minimize saturated fats and not poultry, right? I'm eating mainly plant based but do enjoy an egg now and then.

[MW923 in reply to sarah430]

Yes crazy I've heard no eggs while the yoke part than I hear don't not eat them that we need the choline that's in them. Just to much I'll tell you.

[nash2 Partner]

Eggs are a healthy part of our approach, excellent protein

[Kettl]

Thanks. One to put on the fridge.

[Hidden]

I share everyone's confusion. While trying to navigate the dietry maze I've developed an iron deficiency. Although it's not certain that it's diet related, it seems likely, since I've been eating less red meat and maybe have not compensated with enough other iron rich sources of food. I've been prescribed an iron supplement which perked me up within 10 days so hopefully all will be well. My ferritin levels while falling are still outside the upper range. Anyone else 3xperienced this?

[nash2 Partner in reply to Hidden]

Iron comments a not very common. I ended up with very low ferritin as a result of phlebotomies following an incorrect diagnosis of hemochromatosis.Wayne

[Hidden in reply to nash2]

Thank you.

[sadysue2 in reply to Hidden]

Iron found in animal products is best to help anemia, iron in vegetables is hard to assimilate. If you are anemic which I also am after blood loss during a surgery, I am eating a 3 oz grilled fillet three times a week with a large Kale salad and beets. I am feeling much better and the other two meals are beans with Quinoa, three serving of fruit, steel cut oatmeal. I will drop the red meat as soon as my anemia tests normal. I have mild fatty liver as of now all lab tests are within normal ranges except for iron.

[Hidden in reply to sadysue2]

Thank you.

[MW923]

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[nash2 Partner in reply to MW923]

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[MW923 in reply to nash2]

Thank you, its hard because there so many people says different things evan doctors and Nutritionist

[nash2 Partner]

It is crazy. The docs say go lose weight but they don't agree among themselves how to do that and that leaves patients in the situation of wandering around trying to make sense of all the conflicting information. We have taken the approach that asking the liver to do as little work as possible is the only thing that makes sense so our recommendations follow that idea and we assume that if you eat a good variety you will get the nutrients you need.

[MLB_77 in reply to nash2]

Wayne what is your opinion on probiotics?

[nash2 Partner in reply to MLB_77]

Well, we know gut health is very important but everyone has a different mix of critters in their gut and we don't have a lot of agreement about what probiotics would be best so I suspect most people who eat plenty of raw fruits and vegetables get a good supply and things like yogurt with live cultures are likely beneficial. I imagine a lot of the capsule products are a waste of money.