7 year old day time wetting

[kakky18]

Since June, my 7 year old son has been leaking urine in the daytime. It started off every now and again and I put it down to laziness when playing his computer games but now it is numerous times a day at random times. I find it is worse on the run up to doing a poo.

We have had him tested for a UTI which came back clear.

He has always had a problem with constipation which is what we are trying to treat with Laxido at the moment but after 7 sachets since Friday we have had one poo.

I just want some advice from experience if after the constipation is treated, the daytime wetting subsides?

He is back at school and I have had to buy incontinence pants so he doesn't get picked on at school. It is stressing us all out.

[Yaleamanda]

Up the laxatives, clear him out. It will be the old poo putting pressure on the bladder hence the accidents.

[kakky18 in reply to Yaleamanda]

The doctor has actually told us not to exceed 3 sachets a day! We havent actually been told to do a clear out yet but i can't see it getting resolved otherwise.

[Yaleamanda in reply to kakky18]

Unfortunately drs are so poorly educated in this field, you need to disimpact, you will never resolve the issue otherwise.

[kakky18 in reply to Yaleamanda]

I agree with you 100% we have had constipation issues since he was about 4. But not to this extent. The doctor then told me a bowel movement once a week could be his normal!!

[Yaleamanda in reply to kakky18]

I would be getting another Dr.

[kakky18 in reply to Yaleamanda]

He doesnt wet in the night at all. In fact he actually wakes up if he needs a pee in the night but during the day its like he has no sensation what so ever or urge to go. He is heavily reliant on myself and his dad telling him to go every couple of hours. I just wish there was a quick fix as its starting to affect him at school.

[Yaleamanda in reply to kakky18]

Ask for a referral to your continence team who will be able to help you.

[Zeegirl]

Am so glad am not alone here.My 7 year old is going through the same. Started in June. He is dry at night time,wakes up to do a wee,however the situation is completely different in the daytime. I have observed him closely and saw he was dripping and wasn't aware of it. Thing is he is not constipated .

Our Dr has been very supportive .

We have had urine tests and blood test done, all came out clear.We have appointments for scans and he has been referred to a paediatrician. We have reduced his fluid intake and reduced sugary drink to a minimum (hard to stop it completely). We teach him to wait until he has completely drained out. He is due to go back to school soon but because he is very conscious and concerned about it we have decided to keep him at home and home school him.

It has been worrying times for us . I have done a bit of research about daytime wetting in children causes, diagnosis and tests . We remain hopeful.

[kakky18]

Just an update of where we are now. The laxido is working well for poos but still having daytime wetting worse than before. After 2 clear urine samples, they have now found protein in his urine and have sent it off for further tests. Now on antibiotics for a uti. 4 months on from this originally happening 🤦‍♀️ we have also now been referred to the hospital so awaiting an appointment for that

[StellaA in reply to kakky18]

It sounds like he could be suffering from stress incon if it's only affecting him during the day, constipation will make it worse but it needs separate treatment.

Has anyone suggested having him do pelvic floor exercises to strengthen his bladder?

Are you still having him wear absorbent pants?, If he can't feel when he's wet then there's less motivation for him to stay dry.

[kakky18 in reply to StellaA]

The drs so far haven't been great in all honesty. He started his antibiotics yesterday and today he seems to have had one accident so far which is a vast improvement! He only ever wears the incontinence pants at school. As soon as he comes home he is put in normal pants. I had seen about the pelvic floor exercises as well so will keep an eye on how the antibiotics are going and go from there!

[StellaA in reply to kakky18]

That's not so good if the doctors aren't helpfull, but good that he's responding to the antibiotics. How many accidents a day was 'normal' for him? Was he more prone to having them at school or does he just wear the pants incase he's has an accident but is usually still dry at hometime?

If you do try muscle exercises with him you might want to let him wear them as flexing the sphincter can sometimes cause it to spasm and void.

[kakky18]

He was having around 6 or 7 leaks from after school until he went to bed.

At school he was coming home damp but in the last week he was coming home soaked which has resulted in us bringing him home for lunch and changing him at home before taking him back. I will deffo look at the pelvic exercises. Even if this is an infection, I think since it has taken so long to work out what was wrong, it wouldn't hurt to try them

[StellaA in reply to kakky18]

What is it hes wearing to school, drynites or something ment for adults, he shouldn't be soaking either if it's just leakage, are you sure he's having hourly toilet breaks?

[kakky18 in reply to StellaA]

He is wearing boxer shorts that have a built in padding to absorb the pee. I dont believe it is for large leaks though. He tells me he goes to the toilet a few times at school. We are now on day 4 of antibiotics and he had one small accident yesterday so I'm really hoping that it has been an infection. Im quite angry though as this has been going on for about 5 months now and it was actually us that asked if we could try antibiotics

[StellaA in reply to kakky18]

That's great that it's clearing up, it's hard sometimes for doctors to figure out what could be all sorts of conditions from a set of symptoms, and they don't always get it right, but you know your own child better than anyone else, good on you for suggesting the antibiotics.

[kakky18 in reply to StellaA]

Now he has been off the antibiotics for nearly a week and we are starting to see the number of accidents creep up again. Still waiting on the referral from the hospital.

[StellaA]

Hi kakky, did you ever find the route cause of his leaks?Hope you're doing well.

[kakky18 in reply to StellaA]

Hi Stella! We got a referral for the hospital in November and the paediatrician basically told me that it was all in his head and he was to go when he felt it 🙄. This obviously didn't happen and accidents continued. In the last month, he went for an EEG as I was noticing he would stare blankly sometimes and it was getting more and more frequent. Results came back and he was diagnosed with absence seizures. A form of epilepsy that he is likely to grow out of and with medication be seizure free.

He has been on this medication since Saturday. He has now been going to the toilet himself and no accidents for the last 2 days. When he had these seizures, his muscles were relaxing and this is when he was having the accidents. I feel so bad for him that this didn't get picked up a year ago! The paediatrician still says this isn't the cause for his daytime wetting but I disagree!

[StellaA in reply to kakky18]

That's great that you managed to get some real progress, and now if he's seizure free it should help him in other areas, I'm sure school would have been challenging if he was just drifting away into a seizure during a lesson.Good you found out about it before it got bad or started affecting his life to much, imagine if he had a seizure riding his bike or playing on swings, he could have got really hurt.

When you say he's been going to the loo himself, where you having to make him use the loo before or just constantly remind him?

[kakky18 in reply to StellaA]

I was constantly having to remind him to go every 3-4 hours. He never got to the stage of his bladder being full as every time he had a seizure his bladder would release some urine so never got to the feeling of having to go. He was allowed to go out on his bike with his friends in our neighbourhood so he is gutted that he can't do that at the moment. He is normally a cycling, scooting, tree climbing boy! I am very optimistic that the medicine will work. He has to be on the medication for 2 years of being seizure free.