Difference between the Keto diet and Diabetic diet

[Knip]

My son has recently been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes, having been prediabetic for quite a while. He also has mild kidney damage that he was unaware of until a few weeks ago. His wife, a nurse, is persuading him to follow the Keto diet, which she will also follow because she would like to lose weight. How alike are the two diets? Are they both equally as good. As nice as my daughter in law is, I don't want to interfere or comment at this point, it's not my place to...but I would like any information that any of you might have regarding this. I find Health Unlocked so helpful regarding my own health issues, so this site was a natural 'turn to' for me! Thank you in advance for any answers that you post.

[Koalajane]

I put my type 2 in remission 4 years ago by going low carb, not keto

[Knip in reply to Koalajane]

Thank you for your reply KJ. I have to admit that I was thinking that was the way to go. Kx

[Boxroad]

My advice is don’t comment or interfere, any illness is hard enough to deal with with out family interference. I have diabetes IBS angina and have had family member comment and interfere in my health, I know they think they are helping but trust me they are not, they say what they think is the right thing but they don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, my wife has supported me 100% through all my issues but there are still people who say she could do more but they don’t see how she is helping me when they are not there. When you have an illness you want support not arguments

[Knip]

Thank you Boxroad, for your reply. I'm not intending to interfere...nothing would be worse, I have a really good relationship with both my son and my daughter in law which I would not wish to jeopardise. I am sorry to hear that people are being so negative regarding your wife's input. That is thelast thing that either of you need and I would imagine that it makes you angry. I'm sure that you support each other in every way you can. Take care, Thank you again, God Bless, K.

[Helsbells68]

We tried keto about 6 years ago as my OH has type 2 and at the time NAFL (non-alcholic fatty liver) that the GP did not pick up on. We started off with the Fast 800 but could only manage that for 2 weeks, then tried full keto and counting the carbs, but keeping below 20 grams a day was tricky. We eventually settled for not having more than 50 grams a day except for special occassions and this has worked we have found my adequate alternatives for bread, rice and potatoes over the years.

[O2Trees in reply to Helsbells68]

Hi Helsbells68 - Im newish on this forum and wanted to ask you about how you manage to stay even at 50 grams of carbs. I eat very little carbs, small amount of jumbo oat porridge, one whole meal oatcake and a spoonful of brown rice flour to thicken a sauce in the evening and except for a few slices of cooked carrot, some butternut squash in homemade soup and a small bit of grated beetroo and that's it. But Ive still counted my carbs at about 110grams. Id like to get them down but am underweight and cant afford to lose more weight. I cant imagine getting below 20 grams a day. Any thoughts welcome and hope this finds you well. Jean

[Knip in reply to O2Trees]

Jean, my son is having the same problem as you. I have just found a peanut butter cookie recipe and have made him some of those. They only have three ingredients... 'no sugar' peanut butter, xylitol ( sugar substitute which doesn't affect your blood sugar levels at all but if over consumed might cause diarrhoea) and an egg all mixed up, rolled into balls and flattened. He said they are lovely, but for me (a non diabetic) they are too sweet, so I want to adapt the recipe a bit. I found the recipe online...just tap in three ingredient peanut butter cookies. They only take fifteen minutes in the oven to cook. If you find any other suitable no, or very low, carbs recipes I'd love it if you could share them. Take care, Knip.

[Helsbells68 in reply to O2Trees]

We avoid all grains, even oats, we started off following recipes from dietdoctor.com/ and bought The Low Carb Slow Cooker Cookbook by Sarah Flower as we swear by our crockpot, we even take it on holiday with us, though we had never used a slow cooker until 4 years ago we could not live without it now. You can use xanthan gum as a low carb thickener but I finds it gives it a slightly gelatinous texture that puts me off and the general rule is above ground vetetables are better than root veggies. I often have only one-meal a day without any snacks but OH has a cooked breakfast to take all his meds and we tend to favour meat and dairy over vegetables, high fat food stuffs like cheese and cream are a great way too keep the calories without adding carbs and suitable for vegetarians. Low carb would be very difficult for vegans. Anymore questions just ask.

[O2Trees in reply to Helsbells68]

I'll take a look at dietdoctor.com/ - thanks for that. My problem is keeping my weight up which is why I still eat a very small amount of whole grains. Quite a lot of plain creamy yoghurt (Fage is good for this). I eat nuts, seeds including ground flaxseeds for the omega 3 but they also do the gelatinous thing which I also dont like much. Also eat beans, mostly cannellini beans. Im not vegan but this is what is often recommended on vegan and vegetarian diets.

[Helsbells68 in reply to O2Trees]

Be careful with beans as they can add extra carbs, vegan and veteraian diets can be very heavy on the carbs.

[Knip in reply to Helsbells68]

I think I'll get a copy of that. It sounds as if it will be helpful. My son's wife is a good cook, but is very much into hot spiicy food with rice etc, which he isn't keen on. She's happy to compromise so the book might be useful for them, with the gift of a slow cooker to boot. they are both NHS so hours aren't always regualar and slow cookers are worth their weight in gold for having something hot to come home to. Thank you for that tip. K.

[O2Trees]

Many thanks Knip - those would be great for me but without the xylitol as Im not keen on sweet tastes. I'll bear in mind about sharing low carb recipes.