Getting rid of diabetes

[HansGosta]

Hi. I wonder if there are members that have managed to reverse the diabetes by decreasing the amount of intra-organ fat specifically in the liver and the pancreas. If so, how did you do it?

[cure Administrator]

Hello HansGosta

I am 57 Male from India.... I was diagnose with Fatty liver in year 2004(NASH)

But doctors told me that there is no remedy for the same...

Eventually,I got diagnosed as diabetic in January 2016 with 13.4 HBa1c....

After that with help of many members from Diabetes India forum...

I reduced carbs.. and stopped eating fruits..within 9 months...my HBa1c came down to 5.9...

Of coz I also took some herb as supplement...

My all reports are posted on Diabetes India forum...

recently again I got my liver scanned and...now report says...mild fatty liver with some fats on pancreas....

It is not only me here like this... you may find many Indians have done this....you may check there...

Thank you...

[Mrpaul in reply to cure]

Hello Hans, I am suffering with Diabetes type 2 , my HBa1c is 16 can you Please advice . What kind of Herbs I should take . Thank you I will be grateful

[Fruitandnutcase]

Don't know about intra organ fat but I've gone from 70.9kg to 54.9kg so As I have also lowered my HbA1c as well I imagine I've lost intra organ fat.

I bought Dr David Cavan's book on Reverse Your Diabetes, then I bought my own blood glucose meter and did exactly what Dr Cavan said to do in his book. I also signed up for the DietDoctor website it provides masses of great advice and also the Diabetes.co.uk website.

[nbreight]

Can't seem to find the reference to it right now, but recently read an article about a research that concluded that losing weight wasn't the most important factor for better balance of bs - regular exercise is much more helpful by improving the function of the insulin both in itself and by increasing the muscle mass and thus improving the glucose absorption even when not exercising - in fact when loosing weight by increasing exercising the weight loss due to the loss of body fat is partly compensated by the increase of muscle.

[nbreight in reply to nbreight]

There you go:

[1] W. B. Applegate et al.: Journal of Clinical Epidemiology 1991, 44.

[2] R. P. Troiano et al.: The relationship between body weight and mortality: A quantitative analysis of combined information from existing studies. Int. Journal Obesity 1996, 20.

[3] A. Tremblay et al.: Normalization of the metabolic pro�le in obese women by exercise and low fat diet. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise 1991, 23; Metabolic Fitness in Active Reduced-Obese Individuals. Obesity Research 1999, 7.

The article i picked those from is from 2006, so there might be newer studies corroborating this.

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to nbreight]

Very interesting.

[cure Administrator in reply to nbreight]

Exercising is a very effective way to increase insulin sensitivity of the body....

it works from both sides...on one side by increasing insulin sensitivity...and by increasing muscle mass.

[Fruitandnutcase in reply to cure]

It does indeed. When I do my 10000 steps a day my blood sugar is lower than when I don't, although at the moment I'm not reaching my target of 10000 a day because I'm not feeling at all good with a horrible head cold, cough temperature and generally feeling terrible so it could be either the infection or the lack of exercise that is raising my bloods.

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to Fruitandnutcase]

Have you been to your doctor about the infection/cold recently? Did they put you on anything?

[Fruitandnutcase in reply to Activity2004]

No I haven't , I'm going for time, warmth, inhaling Vicks Vapour rub and rest. I think I'm slowly improving.

I'm certainly sleeping all night, I put that down to the fact my ears are so blocked up I don't hear any extraneous noise while I'm asleep.

If I haven't improved or heaven forbid ive got worse by the end of the week I'll do something. It is almost impossible to get an appointment at our place.

[cure Administrator in reply to Fruitandnutcase]

Further it is said...Insulin resistance is cause of Non Alcoholic Fatty liver..

So if improving insulin sensitivity will help to over come fatty liver issue/fatty pancreas.

[nbreight in reply to cure]

Hi there, mean no disrespect, but i think the causality (that is, what comes 1st and causes the other) isn't that obvious.

Quick read of ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/150... shows for example

«[...]Fat accumulation in the liver may stem either from genetic defects, primarily responsible for insulin resistance, or excessive calorie intake and visceral obesity[...]»

[nbreight in reply to cure]

Had a look at that Diabetes.co.uk article and saw a link about high protein low carb diet ( diabetes.co.uk/news/2016/no... ). Seen this is regularly discussed on this forum thought i'd have a look... Turns out that the article also mentions NAFLD «It has long been suggested that NAFLD is the manifestation of insulin resistance in the liver.» Thus the causality would indeed be Insulin resistance leads to NAFLD.

[Fruitandnutcase in reply to nbreight]

Professor Roy Taylor at Newcastle is the man you want to research

ncl.ac.uk/press/news/2015/1...

[cherv]

So much changes a diabetics life from day to day Like Fruitandnutcase numbers maybe very different from illness, stress effects them and food. One person mentioned the Keto diet one which I I follow modified now at maintaining weight. I'm Type 1 started as Type 2 several years prior. Epilepsy may have lead to it developing although do not have fatty deposits on scans. I would look into the Keto diet every effective. Both my husband and I have followed. Good luck on your journey.

[ShooterGeorge]

Have any of the contributors of this discussion gone through my different experience of what Triticum Dicocuum diet (with satiety) did to my T2DM? If not, & interested please follow the link appropedia.org/Diabetes_mel...

[HOBIEONE]

Really really good luck, I know its possible. 2 of my very good mates are off there T2 meds, inc Insulin