Young coconut meat Vs Mature coconut meat

[barani19]

I happened to test my BS spike after having young coconut meat as I consume tender coconut water and young coconut meat almost daily. I was pretty surprised.

I had less than 50 grams of young coconut meat and was surprise to note that my BS spiked to 180 mg/dL in 30 minutes.

I just had mature coconut meat for my breakfast today and found my spike and PPBS at around 100/101 mg/dL.

So, my advise is that T2D people should avoid having young coconut meat.

namaha , Praveen55

I have now got a clue why my HbA1C is 6.7 this time even though my FBS was in 110's and PPBS in 100's.

Could you comment on why there is so much of spike after having young coconut meat?

Thanks

[sandybrown]

What is your explanation for this?

"I have now got a clue why my HbA1C is 6.7 this time even though my FBS was in 110's and PPBS in 100's."

How many times a day do you do your blood prick test?

Thanks.

[barani19 Administrator in reply to sandybrown]

I do blood test using my glucometer at least 5 to 10 times a day

[sandybrown in reply to barani19]

Could you please explain to me how is this test done? Thanks.

[barani19 Administrator in reply to sandybrown]

sandybrown ,

The below would be my approximate pricking schedule daily.

1. Fasting- Within 30 minutes of getting up

2. After breakfast- either spike at 60-80 mins or exact PPBS at 120 minutes

3. After lunch - PPBS at exactly 120 minutes

4. After evening snack - After at least 60-70 minutes or sometimes 120 minutes(if heavier than usual snack)

5. After Dinner/ before sleep - usually exact PPBS at 120 minutes or just before going to bed(usually at around 10.30pm)

[ramana42 Volunteer in reply to barani19]

I think you are doing the tests way too many times.I think so, because your HbA1c is not alarming.

[barani19 Administrator in reply to ramana42]

I agree with you ramana42 . I take many samples, then store these readings in a mobile app. I will reduce my pricking if the average number on that app matches with my HbA1C. Currently, 3 months average according to this app is around 126 mg/dL. But my HbA1C is 6.7 (eAG of 145 mg/dL). If you observe, there is lot of deviance here.

[ramana42 Volunteer in reply to barani19]

Your home monitoring should not be treated as a standard to match up with A1c.It is is not necessary ,in my view.The BS levels fluctuate every minute and you cannot arrive at an average because most fluctuations occur during night.Use A1c as standard for clinical purposes and home testing for establishing the trends,so that you can moderate your food consumption in such a manner that you establish positive trends in BS levels

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to ramana42]

Sometimes, people have to do 5-10 tests a day depending on how they feel/if they are on medication/able to drop too fast, ramana42 .

[ramana42 Volunteer in reply to Activity2004]

Very true.Some people need continuous BS monitoring which help them a lot.My view was relevant only to this case whose numbers are quite satisfactory.

[sandybrown]

Well, this is a starting point!

"Nutritional Profile

One whole white coconut contains roughly 140 calories, 28 grams of carbohydrates, 2 grams fiber, 3 grams fat, and 2 grams of protein.

Contains 50% of your Daily Recommended Allowance (DRA) of manganese, 15% of your DRA of potassium, and 6% DRA of magnesium.

One whole brown coconut contains roughly 1405 calories (no, that is NOT a typo!), 60 grams of carbohydrates, 36 grams of fiber, 133 grams of fat, and 13 grams of protein. Keep in mind, it would be difficult to eat an entire raw coconut in one day!

Contains 67% of your RDA of manganese (which helps metabolize both fat and protein). High in potassium with minimal levels of folate, copper,and calcium. Contains negligible amounts of Vitamins C, E, K, B-6 and more."

White, young, brown old!

[barani19 Administrator in reply to sandybrown]

Thanks for sending the nutritional profile sandybrown . Too much of carbs in young coconut meat with less fat. I guess thats making my BS spike.

[sandybrown in reply to barani19]

"Research suggests that in underripe bananas, starch constitutes 80-90% of the carbohydrate content, which, as the banana ripens, changes into free sugars. Therefore, people who suffer with diabetes are advised to eat bananas that are not overly ripe as not to spike their blood sugar too much."

This applies to many fruits. See free sugars", in every food there is free and hidden sugar and we have to watch out for it.

100 g on basmati rice has 8 spoons of sugar, we cannot see it but when the rice get into the stomach the body sees it!!!!

[Hidden in reply to sandybrown]

Then the authority continues to advocate "eat lots of fruits" regardless. . . .

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to barani19]

Did you ask your doctor about the coconut?

[barani19 Administrator in reply to Activity2004]

No Leah. It has been a while since I've consulted any doctor for my T2D.

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to barani19]

Can you please call your doctor and make an appointment to see what is going on?

[namaha Administrator]

Dear Barani

It is good that you found out the culprit.

I had also done this experiment 2 years back..and I had similar result.

But in the past from your previous communication , perhaps I missed out your communication that you are regularly taking young coconut meat.

For your info 1 Cup (80gms) tender coconut meat have 26 gm fat, 12 gm Carbs, 5 GM's natural Sugar and 37 GM's water.

So definitely there is going to be a spike with young coconut meat.

Once it matures, fat content goes up, carbs and sugar content comes down and matured coconut meat has Fiber in it during the maturing process which actually arrests the spike.

[sandybrown in reply to namaha]

What is this unit of measurement?

" 5 GM's natural Sugar and 37 GM's water." Capitals, or uppercase!!!

[namaha Administrator in reply to sandybrown]

You may Please open the link and read the paragraph under young coconut meat nutritional profile !

livestrong.com/article/2718...

[sandybrown in reply to namaha]

"A cup of shredded coconut flesh weighs 80 grams and contains 283 calories, 2.7 grams of protein, 26.8 grams of fat, 12.2 grams of carbohydrates, 7.2 grams of dietary fiber and 5 grams of sugars. One medium-sized coconut has approximately 400 grams of flesh, so a cup-sized serving represents roughly one-fifth of a coconut."

"Calories and Fat

One medium-sized coconut weighing about 397 grams has 1,405 calories. If you cut the coconut meat into about 2-inch pieces, the calorie count is 159 per piece. The total fat in one coconut is about 133 grams. One 2-inch piece has approximately 15 grams of total fat with 13 grams of saturated fat. According to the American Heart Association, if you follow a 2,000-calorie-per-day diet, you can eat up to 78 grams of total fat each day, but no more than 16 grams of these fats should be saturated fat. Since coconut is high in saturated fat, limit your coconut intake to small portions served with a balanced diet."

This is a human made incorrect information ! "5 GM's natural Sugar and 37 GM's water." If you read the above you can see there is no GM's.

It is imperative that we all need to offer correct units in our communication. I was a IT training consultant, delivered training all over the world. students always had problems understanding, bits per second (bps) and a lot after higher bit rates..

[barani19 Administrator in reply to namaha]

Thanks for the information namaha . I have added the coconut water and young coconut meat to my regular diet in the past 3-4 months. I never use to have them often before like this. Now, its time for me to stop. Its so yummy. I just love them

[namaha Administrator in reply to barani19]

Thanks Barani ! I too love it, but then I gave up.

We can still take once a while , keeping the portion less- may be you can take around 1/3 or 1/4 of what you were taking earlier!

However mature coconut we can always take 40-50 gms at a time and within our overall Calori limit.

[makarim in reply to namaha]

It is true, with matured coconut the fibre increase,fat increase and carb decrease.This opposite to tender coconut.

[Praveen55 Moderator]

High sugar content in young coconut meat.

[Hidden]

This is probably a case of "thinking one food item to be a food item, nice and tasty but very healthy" when it turns out it was your foe. Many of us do have this "misguided" belief. You're not alone.

When we like something, reasoning tends to drop off. Just to rephrase, if something is nice, sweet and tasty, it may be spiking your IGF, no matter what we/you think otherwise.

Another factor to consider is "amount" you eat. As SC commented on other thread, this is a big one if you love eating.

Good luck with your future food choices, barani.

[barani19 Administrator in reply to Hidden]

Thanks Hidden

[sandybrown]

It is imperative that annual check up on HbA1C, foot and eye are necessary for type 2 person!!

Thaning type 2 medication and eating what is available and no exercise can lead to complication!!

[Trinilady]

Coconut in all forms high in potassium not recommended for CKD. Not even coconut oil

[sandybrown in reply to Trinilady]

Please have a look at this link below:

healthline.com/nutrition/8-...

[barani19 Administrator in reply to Trinilady]

Trinilady , what is CKD?

[sandybrown in reply to barani19]

THere are many people use now days!!.

CVD, CHD, CKD............................

Google can hep.

CKD

Chronic kidney disease (CKD) usually gets worse slowly, and symptoms may not appear until your kidneys are badly damaged. In the late stages of CKD, as you are nearing kidney failure (ESRD), you may notice symptoms that are caused by waste and extra fluid building up in your body.

CHD

Coronary heart disease refers to a narrowing of the coronary arteries, the blood vessels that supply oxygen and blood to the heart. It is also known as coronary artery disease. ... CHD commonly causes angina pectoris (chest pain), shortness of breath, myocardial infarction, or heart attack